a lot of friends left so finding good groups was a pain, guild kind of fell apart. I had been taking longer and longer breaks and then coming back further and further behind. Being kind of competitive and a min/maxer this was a difficult confluence.

Also had started a family and work got harder as well as more lucrative and so now, just mostly over it

It started with the optional ransack for me.
I had 6 accounts, now 5, gave 1 away.
I would find at least a half hour to an hour to play and level my alts on busy days.
So now I lost the incentive to log in every day.
When I would sit down and play it would be for 5 to 10 or more hours and play many different quests at that time.
With every decision they made after that just seemed to make me dislike the devs more and more.
And I just can not contribute money to feed Jerry"s ex wife if I have no respect for him.
If even just 1 person was demoted or fired at SSG for poor work performance I might feel different.
I fully stopped playing at least 3 month ago but am yet to uninstall.
I really do not want to quit but I do not want to pay someone to fuck me around either.

Maybe today since the latest Windows update wont let me launch DDO.

racial TR and reaper grinds

my goal always was to have not a single character that was min maxed, but an entire run of any build i enjoyed playing, maxed out. as more and more time went on, as i worked toward building more than 2 dozen builds at wnatever end game level was at any given time, the devs instead of concentrating on making the game better for people playing, decided they just needed to make the hampster wheel that much larger in diameter. the back to back releasing of racial tr and reaper points added like literal years to my goals and i simply lacked the devotion to invest that much effort toward a goal the companies direction invalidated.

all i wanted was to be able to tell my guildmates, "oh yeah i can bring my [missing role here] since no one else has a good [insert build here]" on raid nights. instead ddo became about 99% of the players endlessly repeating levels 1-20 out of sync with one another so that u can only choose to play alone, with retards, or a different game.

eighnuss wrote on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 9:49am:


I like repeating levels 1-20 though. It's objectively more quest diversity than running the same dozen of raids at cap.

Not that I have anything against endgame players. The problem with DDO is we just don't have the population required to sustain a healthy pool of heroic players + legendary players. As others have pointed out, hardcore is definitely a part of this, but really, it's a huge problem even without hardcore.

DDO's been in a terrible place for a long, long time. To answer the original question, I've been on and off for at least 6 years. From 2010-2015, DDO was my main game and I loved it. After that though, I've played less and less, to a point that I play maybe 1 or 2 months out of the year, if that.

The game itself only had limited input on why I quit playing.

Originally it was because I'd injured a lower disc, and I wasn't really able to sit at a desk comfortably for long periods of time.  And I was pretty much using up all of that time at work.

These days, with the new(er) girlfriend, and her two kids, I don't really have the time to spare for anything computer gaming related.

Dragonborn wrote on Jun 14^th, 2021 at 2:49pm:



Well, she's an alcoholic with some kind of (untreated) chronic mood disorder.  So she kinda gets an update every couple of weeks!

I officially quit in 2010. Since then, I think I have logged in maybe three times, once to try playing again. I was very quickly overwhelmed by the amount of shit that showed up in my backpack after running just a couple of low-level quests, showing me that they'd only exacerbated a problem from when I'd quit. I never returned.

As for why I quit, there were a lot of things that made me unhappy with the game - Dungeon Alert and Dungeon Scaling among them, and the epic item grind are three that come to mind. The move to be like all the other MMOs - killing things like interest items and AC. But I think the biggest thing to push me out the door was guild renown. Basically, I didn't realize it, but I had been logging in every night so that I didn't let my guild down. Then my guild figured out that they could whittle down members in order to allow the 24-hour-a-day players to capitalize on the small guild bonus, so they moved everyone over to a placeholder guild while they worked on that.

...which made me realize the real reason I was logging in every day (to not let the guild down). This game had become a job - a true grind. Grind for renown, grind for epic item bullshit, grind for TR, grind grind grind. And it was clear things were only going to get worse. More grind, more movement towards being like all other games.

And in the ten years since, I have yet to find a replacement game. I tried SWTOR, but it turns out that is two different games: one really long and boring single-player grind to level your character (mostly just running/driving from point A to B to C... SO MUCH time wasted traveling around); and a second game where you had to be deep into a guild and dedicate serious time to play endgame.

Wildstar seemed like the answer. It was extremely polished, very well thought-out, funny, interesting, and unique. It also got me interested in things I'd never been interested in for any other game - crafting and housing, for example. I found a way to make scads of money and exploited the shit out of that for quite a while. But, in the end, it turns out it was just SWTOR: two games, one single-player leveling grind and one guild-focused endgame with significant and difficult barriers to entry (unless you were deep in a guild). The leveling, while better than SWTOR's "travel forever" bullshit, was still basically the same thing: repetitive, boring combat (press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5; repeat until mobs are dead) taking place over repetitive, boring quests (go here, click the blue thing).

Back in that 2006-2010 timeframe, we had a real gem of a game. In the decade since, everything I hear just makes me cringe. More grind, more moving away from what made DDO great, and a continued complete lack of bug fixing. It is really a shame. I feel bad for the people who came in after 2010, they have no idea what they missed.

Cripey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2021 at 3:42pm:


Can you link to this? I'd like to see what I'm in for if I stick around.

noamineo wrote on Jun 15^th, 2021 at 4:41pm:

Start here:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/524811-U51-Early-Preview-Main-Thread#p...

Cripey wrote on Jun 15^th, 2021 at 3:42pm:



Yep. Might be done. And an extended break is definitely happening. Godammit, everything I imagined, but worse than I expected.

Bigjunk wrote on Jun 15^th, 2021 at 6:23pm:


Terrible is being kind.