Grace wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

Damage is up across the board. It's just easier to notice with traps and spells.

Grace wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 10:49am:


Did Running with the Devils Elite after the update.  Light spells were regularly hitting in the 150-160 range.  I saw at least one over 190, but I think that was from one of the red-names.  Naturally the PM in the group kept taking wraith form and wondering what was killing him, even after being told several times.

Magic missles were also hitting for a ton of damage (double-digits per missle, and lots of missles per cast).

I may be mis-remembering, but I beleive those same light spells used to hit for 50-60 before the update.

Aeolwind wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:



I'll be the first one in line to bitch about pumping the store but this is bullshit learn to play.

We have been asking for more challenge and they delivered to those requests.

I have to say that if that's true, I really dislike the change. For dodgeable attacks (like DBF, lightning) I like the new higher damage because it rewards a higher level of play.

For non-dogeable spells like searing light, where multiple mobs can spam it, it seems  a bit excessive, although IDK if that is with dungeon scaling or without. And before you say L2P, I will run circles around any of you.

Also I always do the puzzle with ffall on, and take it off right before the very last chute. The traps hurt on elite, but the good news is that they are fairly easy to dodge. Practice it a few times on normal and you should be good

Elite only, both heroic elite and epic elite are intense now.

Casual, Normal, Hard are all basically a joke for heroic and epic.

spathic wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 5:56pm:


The one that really made me shake my head is the quote I saw of 26 ? (I think) DD needed for a trap on elite  Stopping the Sahaguin. That's not right.

Ran my first run of Beyond The Rift.

Stopwound and Runforr dragged me through on EE.

Most fun 2 hours of DDO I've had in a long while

Rastelin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 7:25pm:


Is that while being a soulstone stroking out for a rez?

Quote:

Loving epic elite and it's making me rethink end-game builds.  Kept my streak alive through EE VON1, VON2, VON3, Wiz King, Red Fens and Beyond the Rift.  Normal and hard is absolutely a cakewalk.  Couldn't touch the Drow in EE VON3 with Slay Living/Destruction, but was plowing through them on hard.  13 min hard completion (needlessly cautious), 8 min normal completion.  It's like our heroic XP farming runs and very worth running the first time (~62k XP each).

At-level challenges are a snoozefest.  5 starred each of the 5 challenges at level 22/23 the first or second time we ran them.  Totally worth doing for the first time completion.  Not sold on running them for XP after the first time completion.

Unquiet Graves is a great XP farm BTW. 2 min completion times and tasty tradable hand wraps.

Terebinthia wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

if you're a completionist, you should be able to do the Litany trapfall in your sleep.  Just sayin'.

@Carpone, agreed re: epic elite.  It's a good challenge, and tougher than U13 to solo/duo.  Ran out of mana after the two Dire Bears in elite Don't Drink The Water and didn't exactly want to try torc'ing up on em.  Dragon probably would have pwn'd me anyway let alone the creepy snake fuckers at the force field door.  Went back in on Hard, stood and shield blocked dragon with DP clickie, and the standard-issue PM DR set-up.  Relative snooze-fest, but a few neg bursts required.  moral of the story = gigantic difference between hard/elite.  Currently TOO different IMO, but maybe scaling played into it since there were only 2 of us.

Did Ying take the epic spell pen feat at 21?  +3 in magister?  iirc, 3 fvs, 3 wiz PL's, assuming another +2 from augmentation, etc...  so if SR on EE drow is still a "can't touch" situation after that, they're pretty much off limits barring debuffs. 

Speaking of xp, how about the cranky hostage-killer lady?  First time I ever consciously decided to stop farming something when it was still over 5k xp/min.  Then again, I don't know how many seconds we were actually in.  7th or 8th completion was still around 10k for "0 minutes."

Aeolwind wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 9:06pm:

Alluding.

(Sorry, pet peeve with that particular word.)