Only thing I would consider using any kind of box would be a solo barb life.

Now since I have a long time TR buddy and the game is easy to get trough I couldn't care less about the boxes and impact of % boosters on them.

Timethief wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 6:12am:


That's definitely one of my most-disliked classes... but I was actually planning on not skipping my next Bard life with a box, and instead try out Munk's Druid template: mainly because I want to see a wolf playing a lute.   

I had the intention to buy one, as I'm reaching the end of my stable of LVL 20 to level to 25 - I have 1 Fighter and 1 Barbarian left (  and a despised monk mule, and a gimp wizard, but frankly I don't care much about the last two ).
So a Stone would have been nice to get another character near Epic Level...( I have that nice LVL 9 FvS that I haven't played in month )

But with the 7-15 Range and no XP bonus... no point of wasting money into that.
I'll just wait for the 25 to 28 raise and go back to levelling the stable to 28.

My guild were going to do a box for our least favored life. But not now.

The only reason they would have done this is because next up will be a 15 to 20 box.

Flav wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 2:39am:


By the way, the Frogs spy as much as the US, and didn´t even care to make a secret vote in a secret Congress with secret judges to have a little legal appereance.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2356178/Hollandes-hypocrisy-Edward-Snowd...

Don´t trust Flav. He will hack your accounts and steel all your haste pots.

About the ecology Ministry... she should have spent the budge in male whores and cocain,  like Spanish politicians. They don´t get fired.

AtomicMew wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 3:25am:


This is the typical and expected nerf to something beneficial to the players.

Turbine fucked themselves in the ass with the Otto's boxes with shit testing and probably ignoring Lamannia feedback about the fact that bonus exp affects them i.e.: pots, exp shrine, etc. etc. and Turbine for ONCE when they made the nerf didn't fuck the people that already paid and HAVE Otto's boxes.

Instead of a fix for the Otto's boxes, they came out with the new one, a 'fixed' version because they fucked it up to begin with and gamers being gamers, they found a way to legitimately maximize the Otto Stones.


That being said, did any of you really believe Otto boxes were WAI in the first place? I expect most of you knew from the first moment you realized all bonus exp was stacking that it would be fixed.

At least they didn't change the already bought and paid for items for once, and Otto still works for those that were smart enough to stock up before the change.

AtomicMew wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 4:12am:


This.

Now seriously, I can remember the MajMal commented that it was not WAI, but they decided to let it happen, as an extra perk.
I guess they have rethought that. And they make it the sneaky way, turbine like.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 4:40am:


I'm getting the feeling that they'll just leave them alone and never sell them again so they won't have to deal with whining about them being fixed.

Heck at face value on that statement it's possible that they would only continue to make the new ones available from time to time.

Yeah it's also possible that they could fix the ladder bugs, un nerf wail and hand out free XP pots on login.

Doesn't mean any of it is going to happen though.  This is just an easy answer to keep the rioting down to a minimum.


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Dear crazies we are no longer serving Ice Cream with lunch from now on we offer ice milk.

*Crazies predictably go crazy, they want their good ice cream*

Oh now now you silly crazies don't be that way, heck it's possible we could offer them both at once down the road.

*crazies settle down mostly looking forward to the day they get their ice cream.  A day that it's just as possible may never come*

I think that the MoTU stones were unintentional.  The goal was to get you to 16 so that you could run the Web of Chaos series and get to FR.  I don't think it was WAI that it would take you to 18 when it says "gives enough XP to level to 16". 

I also think they were well aware of this non-WAI feature and decided to let it ride when they came out with Otto's Boxes to make some cash, because it really didn't matter to them at the time what level you ended up at.  So, what was not-WAI became WAI for the Otto's Box.

Then they have this idea about Iconic Heroes and they want to get people to start in FR or Ebberron vs. always having to start in Ebberon, but there's no low level content in FR.  So they decide to start the Iconic's at 15.

But the stones are taking people to 18/19.  So 15-17 is a bit of a wasteland.  So they want to get the stones in sync with the Iconics.  But, rather than change the current stones, they decide to create a new one that works the way they want.   

Eventually all the Otto's boxes will be used and TR's will all have to go through 15-17 with the first life Iconics and no one feels "cheated" by buying an Otto box with a semi-WAI XP boost only to have it switched on them later.

It's probably the best way to fix the problem without pissing off all the existing box owners.

As an Otto's box user, I think it sucks that the new boxes don't give the same XP bump, but I understand why they needed to make a change to get in alignment with their new Iconics.

If they wanted to get players to 15 to play with iconics, then price it accordingly.  Call it a "lesser stone of experience" or something like that.  I would pay 2K or probably even 3K for bigby's, especially if they were up front about it in the first place.  But 4K for a ~40-50% nerf?  Fuck that, gtfo turbine. 

They flat out stated that the box would be better than otto's, but it's extremely worse.

Darkrok wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:


Agreed.  With 3 50% pots in there, that's a 1500 TP value by itself.  Throw in the rez cakes (Although I don't really care for them and would rather they weren't there) and it's worth 2000-2250 TP.  The stone is only about 2000 TP as part of the kit.  I wish they would just sell the stones at that price.  I'd probably buy a 7-15 leveling at that price. 

Selee wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:


I have a feeling you could get just about anything it was possible to trade for in the game for them. Just link them in the trade channel and see what happens