rest wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 10:07am:


Agreed. I just hope they leave the 30% in place.

With that being said, I think Carpone's pally version might work better for me. I like Smites, even though they are expended quickly, but it might work wonders with Sireth's crit profile combined with OC and LD. I also rather like having Divine Might and a considerable bonus to saves. 

Cripey wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 12:33pm:


I am currently facing the same problem, as the toon I want this build on is not Lawful Good, and there is no way I am paying for a tome of alignment change.

I will most likely use LR+20 to pick up one more past life that I want, then TR into this build. Though this build is mostly intended for endgame, I like seeing how builds perform during levelling as well. 

Yeah when I planned this out I though "oh if druid sucks or I get a Sireth, I can LR into Pally!" But I can't, because alignment. Booo. But this guy was never anything but a flavour build for shits and grins. It's just a happy coincidence that they accidentally made acrobats almost cool. I do love the abundant step though. Favorite part!

So what does druid get me? Shillelagh, Ram's Might, Jump, and Vigor are the ones that I use most. I like to throw a lesser creeping cold just for funsies every once in a while, and sometimes see ticks over 100. Not bad for not having any meta that affects it. I also get empower healing (which the pally gets) and some of the druid enhancements are good. Nature's Warrior effects in Lam include Fatal Harrier, which adds up to +6 pre-multiplier crit damage, the aforementioned 30% doublestrike action boost and a few others. I'll have to look for specifics. Also, the other druid tree (that I can't remember the name of) gives me access to relatively cheap wand/scroll mastery. Only requires 5 points spent in the tree (obviously you have the sunk cost of stupid bullshit wand heightening) and 75% effectiveness to scrolls is nice.

Skipped out on the shintao enhancements, since they took out defensive strikes its not worth it.

Why not use a 12 monk / 2rogue chassis instead of 6-8 monk/6-8 rogue?

Obviously, you heavily invest into Henshin Mystic instead of Thief Acrobat (grabbing only attack speed and haste boost from TA).

Any major disadvantages of this approach?

Or is 9/5 an even better split, improved evasion from monk and staff vault from Thief Acrobat tree?

Also, other races? Elf for displace? Half-elf monk dilettante for monk heal amplification instead of shintao?

Slight derail... on your monk/fighter/druid build, what's your opinion on swapping pally for druid?

Sindarin wrote on Aug 7^th, 2013 at 10:31am:

Divine Might and Divine Grace are poor substitutes for 30% Double Strike Boost, Ram's Might, Magical Training and access to Empower Healing Spell.

With Improved Reflexes and FoM boots, I don't care about Reflex or Will saves.

Turbine couldn't figure out how to make Divine Might stack with other Paladin benefits, so they made it an Insight bonus.  Now it doesn't stack with gear.  /facepalm

YOu can still use DM.  It is a net loss of a total of 3 strength.

rest wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 4:24pm:


Have you already started splashing druids on your live toons?  You gotta get with the times before you can join.

rest wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 4:24pm:


Not for me, at least until it comes with a hefty discount. I am never buying TPs again.

rest wrote on Aug 15^th, 2013 at 4:47pm:

Why that split?

I have a defunct Godhand build that I intend to resurrect as a Staff build. 13 Rogue/6 Monk/1 Druid looks pretty strong to me. Is the argument for the 12 Monk variants pretty much wings+earth stance crit multis?

Druid has proven to be great fun.