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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Pay to Win Reply #100 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 5:39pm	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 5:34pm: Stupid people like you cant. Do I, like actually have to re-post your post history here? Or have you grown immune from a life time of you proving that you are immensely dumb?

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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IMARANGER Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 5034 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2013	Re: Pay to Win Reply #101 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 5:45pm	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 5:34pm: Stupid people like you cant. I think I've figured out who you are, Geedumbass. (For the record, posting your actual toon's name on The Vault is a fairly stupid move.) It may please you to learn that I've learned that you're considered to be one of the biggest jokes on your server. According to a fairly reliable source, you're a stupid newbie who thinks he is hot stuff and is considered to be a laughingstock by vets who make fun of you in back channels. My source compared you to another well-known idiot on your server (Thelanis) who used to post for "STRONGS ONLY".

	OnePercenter wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 5:32pm: I agree with 0bama... OnePercenter wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:18am: Not saying that others weren't better, just that quantity does not always indicate quality...� I mean, look at my post count...
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Nuckinfutz Titan Demolisher Offline The Pig's a tease. Posts: 364 Location: Mom's Basement Joined: Aug 9^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Pay to Win Reply #102 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	IMARANGER wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 5:45pm: My source compared you to another well-known idiot on your server (Thelanis) who used to post for "STRONGS ONLY". Because he's a gimp that has to be pocket carried thru every quest

	Felgor wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 3:45am: DDO died a long time ago, we just all have trouble admitting it.
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Nuckinfutz Titan Demolisher Offline The Pig's a tease. Posts: 364 Location: Mom's Basement Joined: Aug 9^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Pay to Win Reply #103 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 6:06pm	Print Post
	Nope- after checking... ED and twists are TP purchace now. No longer cash only.

	Felgor wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 3:45am: DDO died a long time ago, we just all have trouble admitting it.
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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Pay to Win Reply #104 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	IMARANGER wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 5:45pm: I t My source compared you to another well-known idiot on your server (Thelanis) who used to post for "STRONGS ONLY". The difference being that Mr. Strongs Only is actually beloved for being amusing in those back channels. Geedorah is not. Only two people I know of more derided are Thrudh and Xynot_2


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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Pay to Win Reply #105 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 6:30pm	Print Post
	Nuckinfutz wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 6:06pm: Nope- after checking... ED and twists are TP purchace now. No longer cash only. Just because it can be bought with TP that can be earned doesn't make it not pay content.


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Nuckinfutz Titan Demolisher Offline The Pig's a tease. Posts: 364 Location: Mom's Basement Joined: Aug 9^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Pay to Win Reply #106 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	Shadehater wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 6:30pm: Just because it can be bought with TP that can be earned doesn't make it not pay content. But because you can farm the TP and buy it with free TP it makes it freely accessible and free so that you dont have to spend money which means you dont have to pay for it which means it's free Edit: Was that redundant enough for you to understand free? Edit2: Before there was a P2W discussion some one did completionist on a F2P account and posted the screen of his loggin with only 2 toon slots. And it can still be done with everything added because.... you guessed it... it's free.
	« Last Edit: Aug 18^th, 2014 at 8:27pm by Nuckinfutz »
	Felgor wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 3:45am: DDO died a long time ago, we just all have trouble admitting it.
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mystafyi Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 836 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Pay to Win Reply #107 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 8:47pm	Print Post
	wasn't leveling sigils the start of turbines voyage of pay2bypass? While mana pots was a point of contention, folks strived to complete raids/dungeons without using any, so from my observations it didn't effect the raiding folks I knew on orien server. Turbines foray into selling xp outright was imho, the final nail in the p2w column. While I will accede that mostly turbine has stuck to pay for convenience or bypass with only a handful of glaring misstep(looking at you EPIC DESTINIES). Turbines genius marketing/sales crew has in effect, created a chain of purchases that the sum equals outright p2w.


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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Pay to Win Reply #108 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 9:25pm	Print Post
	Again. Just because it can be done free does not mean p2w doesn't exist.


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Nuckinfutz Titan Demolisher Offline The Pig's a tease. Posts: 364 Location: Mom's Basement Joined: Aug 9^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Pay to Win Reply #109 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 9:06pm	Print Post
	Shadehater wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 9:25pm: Again.� Just because it can be done free does not mean p2w doesn't exist. Ok Forest

	Felgor wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 3:45am: DDO died a long time ago, we just all have trouble admitting it.
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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Pay to Win Reply #110 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 9:27pm	Print Post
	Hey fagboy i have lots and lots of heroic and epic stones. Enough to get 3x all past lives for all my toons. Want some?

	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Pay to Win Reply #111 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 10:49pm	Print Post
	Nuckinfutz wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 9:06pm: Ok Forest Your welcome. Perhaps your definitions are wrong. Try harder.


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Nuckinfutz Titan Demolisher Offline The Pig's a tease. Posts: 364 Location: Mom's Basement Joined: Aug 9^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Pay to Win Reply #112 - Aug 20^th, 2014 at 6:57pm	Print Post
	Shadehater wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 10:49pm: Your welcome.� Perhaps your definitions are wrong.� Try harder. ok Forest, Forest Gump.

	Felgor wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 3:45am: DDO died a long time ago, we just all have trouble admitting it.
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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Pay to Win Reply #113 - Aug 20^th, 2014 at 7:03pm	Print Post
	Nuckinfutz wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 6:57pm: ok Forest, Forest Gump. Glad you caught on to your own reference. I congratulate your mental celerity.


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qweeve DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 463 Location: Pa Joined: Nov 18^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Pay to Win Reply #114 - Aug 21^st, 2014 at 3:20am	Print Post
	5 pages and I'm still not sure what the point is. Does it really matter if it's p2w? By the definition of several replies, any game that charges real money in any way is p2w. I'm cool with that. As far as I know though, about the only thing of any consequence that you don't have access to as a completely f2p player is the ASAH, as you have to be either VIP or premium to use it. So, I guess because something does exist in the game that you can't have access to as a completely f2p player, the game is indeed p2w. There, it's settled. Nothing more to see here.


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Pay to Win Reply #115 - Aug 21^st, 2014 at 7:49am	Print Post
	F2p dont have access to asah, why? You mean they need as and cant get it, or they dont have access even with as?
	« Last Edit: Aug 21^st, 2014 at 7:49am by Viktor Vaughn »

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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Pay to Win Reply #116 - Aug 21^st, 2014 at 7:50am	Print Post
	IMARANGER wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 5:45pm: I think I've figured out who you are, Geedumbass.� (For the record, posting your actual toon's name on The Vault is a fairly stupid move.) It may please you to learn that I've learned that you're considered to be one of the biggest jokes on your server.� According to a fairly reliable source, you're a stupid newbie who thinks he is hot stuff and is considered to be a laughingstock by vets who make fun of you in back channels.� My source compared you to another well-known idiot on your server (Thelanis) who used to post for "STRONGS ONLY". Vets like vintovka and dazboh?


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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Pay to Win Reply #117 - Aug 21^st, 2014 at 7:57am	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 7:49am: F2p dont have access to asah, why? You mean they need as and cant get it, or they dont have access even with as? Seems to be no access. Quote: The Shard Exchange is only available to Premium and VIP players. Premium players can post up to ten items, and VIP players can post up to 20 items.


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Pay to Win Reply #118 - Aug 21^st, 2014 at 9:06am	Print Post
	Damn, didnt know that. What is the reason behind that? Seems stupid to do that.


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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Pay to Win Reply #119 - Aug 21^st, 2014 at 9:28am	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 9:06am: What is the reason behind that? More money for Turdbin.


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Pay to Win Reply #120 - Aug 21^st, 2014 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	Not that many f2p players.


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eighnuss Epic Poster Offline ด้้้้้ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ ͩͩͩͩͩͩ Posts: 3468 Location: ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ Joined: Jan 30^th, 2013	Re: Pay to Win Reply #121 - Aug 21^st, 2014 at 2:45pm	Print Post
	Shadehater wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 9:25pm: Anything in this game can be gotten without paying. That means you MUST pay in order to obtain it what the fuck did you just say

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Pay to Win Reply #122 - Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 2:05am	Print Post
	Sasha wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 7:59pm: That's a good point with the SP pots, but right now with the cards it's basically d2w (dupe to win), any noob with a blue bar can burn sp indefinitely for massive damage. In my opinion, the heaviest P2W right now is (if you were to actually buy these things instead of exploiting) Box>LR>Box>TR>Repeat, it is literally retarded. LR hearts are dupable?

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FM Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 263 Joined: Mar 25^th, 2014	Re: Pay to Win Reply #123 - Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 2:21am	Print Post
	IMARANGER wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 5:45pm: My source compared you to another well-known idiot on your server (Thelanis) who used to post for "STRONGS ONLY". Tsin had (has? he is back I guess?) balls and wasn't one of those annoying little neurotic pricks trying to cover for his real life inadequacies with DDO tough talk or arrogance. In fact, those were the types of people he lampooned. He may have been juvenile in the way he fought his battles, but I respected him more than anyone else on Thelanis. I hope that gives you an idea of how much respect I have for the rest of you.


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Pay to Win Reply #124 - Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 10:35am	Print Post
	He could be back, not sure if that is him.


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