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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
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relogging helps.
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Didn't work.
I can modify THIS post, and most of the other posts in this thread, but not the three that I made ~1 hour ago.
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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
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Didn't work.
I can modify THIS posts, and most of the other posts in this thread, but not the three that I made ~1 hour ago.
Whelp, I guess Strakein to the rescue!
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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
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5 Foot Step wrote
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Stunning Blow is not worth it anymore.
Depends on what you run, no? As an old timer with less time and tolerance for failure, it adds a bit of fun on eH. Also, makes me miss Monk less.
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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
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5FS's Second Pick
(v3.0)
Race: Human/PDK
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 20 Barbarian
Stats
:..........Level 1 (36 pt build)
Strength............18 (+ level ups)
Dexterity...........13 (+4 tome or better required)
Constitution.......17
Intelligence........10
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............8
Feat Progression
Level 1 : Power Attack, Weapon Focus
Level 3 : Weapon Focus
Level 6 : Completionist
Level 9 : Improved Critical-Piercing
Level 12 : Two Weapon Fighting
Level 15 : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Weapon Focus
Level 26 : Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Level 27 : Power Critical
Level 28 : First Blood
Enhancements
Ravager
: 38 AP
Core 5/6
Barbarian Power Attack 3/3
Ritual Scarring 3/3
Hardy Rage 3/3
Do You Like Pain? 3/3
Action Boost: Melee Power 3/3
I Like Pain 3/3
+1 Str
+1 Str
I Hit Back 3/3
Critical Rage 2/2
Blood Strength
Bully 2/3
Frenzied Berserker
: 41 AP
Core 6/6
Die Harder 1/3
Power Rage 3/3
Extra Rage 3/3
Athletics 3/3
Cracking Attack 3/3
Body Blow 3/3
Supreme Cleave 3/3
Sprint Boost 3/3
Extra Action Boost 3/3
+1 Con
+1 Con
Crazy Strike 3/3
Human
: 1 AP
Damage Boost
Epic Destiny
: Divine Crusader
Purge the Wicked
Bane of Undeath
Interrogation
Endless Turning 1/3
Consecration 3/3
Confront Any Foe
Sacred Ground
Crusade
No Regret
Celestial Champion
Castigation
Heavenly Presence
Strike Down
Twists
: 4/3/2/1
Sense Weakness
Balanced Attacks
Hail of Blows
Tunnel Vision
Gear:
Armor : ToEE Medium Armor
Goggles : Epic Mentau's
Helmet : Mythic Emerald Gaze
Necklace : Shroud of Ardent
Trinket : Epic Litany
Cloak : Mysterious JuJu Cloak
Belt : Epic Thoughtful Remembrance
Ring 1: ToD Ring w/ 40 heal amp (Encrusted or Verik's preferably)
Ring 2: Swap
Gloves : Sanctified Gages
Boots : Madstone Boots
Bracers : Epic Ethereal
Quiver : Epic Alacrity
Weapons:
Thunderforged Pick/ToEE Pick
(Important to note that Celestial Champion won't apply it's range increase unless you unequip and reequip your weapons in each new instance. So it's 19-20x4 at quest start, then 17-20x4 when you reequip, then 15-20x4 when you rage.)
Your enhancements do not add up correctly. you cannot take core 5 ravager with 29 APs and therefore cannot take tier 5 at 30 APs in this set up. You need to add one more into it if you want core 5. Even if you try to take one point back, the enhancements reset and refund you 10 pts when you click accept.
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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
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Kluege wrote
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Your enhancements do not add up correctly. you cannot take core 5 ravager with 29 APs and therefore cannot take tier 5 at 30 APs in this set up. You need to add one more into it if you want core 5. Even if you try to take one point back, the enhancements reset and refund you 10 pts when you click accept.
Good catch. I can't log in right now, but I'm pretty sure I only have 1 point in Bully, so I must have put 1 point in something else to hit 30.
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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
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So it turned out that my enhancement ui was bugged out and I had actually taken t5/c5 with only 29 points spent...but I was just losing that leftover point instead of being able to spend it.
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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
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5 Foot Step wrote
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5FS's Second Pick
(v3.0)
Race: Human/PDK
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 20 Barbarian
Stats
:..........Level 1 (36 pt build)
Strength............18 (+ level ups)
Dexterity...........13 (+4 tome or better required)
Constitution.......17
Intelligence........10
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............8
Feat Progression
Level 1 : Power Attack, Weapon Focus
Level 3 : Weapon Focus
Level 6 : Completionist
Level 9 : Improved Critical-Piercing
Level 12 : Two Weapon Fighting
Level 15 : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Weapon Focus
Level 26 : Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Level 27 : Power Critical
Level 28 : First Blood
Enhancements
Ravager
: 38 AP
Core 5/6
Barbarian Power Attack 3/3
Ritual Scarring 3/3
Hardy Rage 3/3
Do You Like Pain? 3/3
Action Boost: Melee Power 3/3
I Like Pain 3/3
+1 Str
+1 Str
I Hit Back 3/3
Critical Rage 2/2
Blood Strength
Bully 1/3
1 leftover point in whatever
Frenzied Berserker
: 41 AP
Core 6/6
Die Harder 1/3
Power Rage 3/3
Extra Rage 3/3
Athletics 3/3
Cracking Attack 3/3
Body Blow 3/3
Supreme Cleave 3/3
Sprint Boost 3/3
Extra Action Boost 3/3
+1 Con
+1 Con
Crazy Strike 3/3
Human
: 1 AP
Damage Boost
Epic Destiny
: Divine Crusader
Purge the Wicked
Bane of Undeath
Interrogation
Endless Turning 1/3
Consecration 3/3
Confront Any Foe
Sacred Ground
Crusade
No Regret
Celestial Champion
Castigation
Heavenly Presence
Strike Down
Twists
: 4/3/2/1
Sense Weakness
Balanced Attacks
Hail of Blows
Tunnel Vision
Gear:
Armor : ToEE Medium Armor
Goggles : Epic Mentau's
Helmet : Mythic Emerald Gaze
Necklace : Shroud of Ardent
Trinket : Epic Litany
Cloak : Mysterious JuJu Cloak
Belt : Epic Thoughtful Remembrance
Ring 1: ToD Ring w/ 40 heal amp (Encrusted or Verik's preferably)
Ring 2: Swap
Gloves : Sanctified Gages
Boots : Madstone Boots
Bracers : Epic Ethereal
Quiver : Epic Alacrity
Weapons:
Thunderforged Pick/ToEE Pick
(Important to note that Celestial Champion won't apply it's range increase unless you unequip and reequip your weapons in each new instance. So it's 19-20x4 at quest start, then 17-20x4 when you reequip, then 15-20x4 when you rage.)
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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
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Can I get a 28 build version?
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Can I get a 28 build version?
20 barb / 8 epic
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Can I get a 28 build version?
28 points? First life? You're probably better of as a paladin.
Strength............18 (+ level ups)
Dexterity...........14 (needs to hit 17 by level 15)
Constitution.......14
Intelligence.........8
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............8
Note that you will need to have put level up points in Dex if you can't find/buy a +3 dex tome by the time you take level 15.
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5 Foot Step wrote
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28 points? First life? You're probably better of as a paladin.
Strength............18 (+ level ups)
Dexterity...........14 (needs to hit 17 by level 15)
Constitution.......14
Intelligence.........8
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............8
Note that you will need to have put level up points in Dex if you can't find/buy a +3 dex tome by the time you take level 15.
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Would it be possible to do this as a dwarf with two spinal taps for the heroic levels? Or is that going to seriously gimp me?
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Would it be possible to do this as a dwarf with two spinal taps for the heroic levels? Or is that going to seriously gimp me?
should be fine. you lose a feat, some hamp, damage boost. Another feat goes into bastard swords losing 2 feats total.
spinal tap is dumb OP. only other swords near that power are necro turn in and raid weapons.
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Would it be possible to do this as a dwarf with two spinal taps for the heroic levels? Or is that going to seriously gimp me?
Anything is possible, it just won't be minmaxed. I think it would be plenty viable though. The problem is that endgame = TF. Spinal tap and Nightmare are great, but TF bastard swords are kinda pointless for TWF. If you're just going to zerg to cap and TR then it's not really an issue though.
Honestly I usually go THF until very late in heroic levels.
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I finally got my dual Celestias. They are awesome.
I tried out putting my 2 free points into human heal amp instead of ravager core 5 and bully. It was a very nice healing boost.
Still thinking about the optimal gear set for endgame with the new raid farmed out though.
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5 Foot Step wrote
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Still thinking about the optimal gear set for endgame with the new raid farmed out though.
I'll probably just insert Sightless, Hide, and Strange Tidings into the current setup.
Armor : ToEE Medium Armor
Goggles : Epic Mentau's
Helmet : Sightless
Necklace : Shroud of Ardent
Trinket : Epic Litany
Cloak : Hide of the Fallen
Belt : Epic Thoughtful Remembrance
Ring 1: Verik's Ring w/ 40 heal amp
Ring 2: Strange Tidings
Gloves : Sanctified Gages
Boots : Madstone Boots
Bracers : Epic Ethereal
Quiver : Epic Alacrity
Does it say anywhere which mythic Amrath loot gets PRR and which gets MP?
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5 Foot Step wrote
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I finally got my dual Celestias.
I still have a Monk mutt (12Mnk) with a pair of those in Ninja Spy... I've been trying to hang onto it out of nostalgia but if there's no Monk pass soon I'm considering this. I was thinking a Rog base though, any good stuff in Barb I've not considered specific to Celestia or is it just Celestia is great and Barb is great so doublegreat?
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Saw someone mention SWF earlier in the thread...how would the damage compare to TWF on a pure Barb build? Unless the wiki is out of date it looks like you're going to net +6 melee power from the SWF line over TWF line. You'll be attacking with 1.5x on 30% extra regular attacks but giving up all the offhand attacks. And for weapons that have a nice vorpal effect (endless night ruby) you'll be vorpalling twice as often which has a nice synergy with the First Blood feat as well as allowing tougher trash to be dropped much more quickly from neg levels.
I'm definitely not an expert on current game mechanics - only been back a couple months after taking a long break - but seems like that idea earlier in the thread could be interesting for those reasons...just not sure how much dps you'd lose going that route.
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or is it just Celestia is great and Barb is great so doublegreat?
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Variants of this build are the only acceptable use of a Dwarf at this point. I hooked up some newish questing buddies last week, one of which insist on playing stumpys for the "roleplay" flavor and is forever feeling gimpy and like a anchor. He finally listened to me and took the couple of hours to blow a +20 and a pile of shards on the twf version and some gear, after that he was drunk on the change in power levels from his normal play experience and couldn't stop screaming and laughing over teamspeak.
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kum-gulp wrote
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I still have a Monk mutt (12Mnk) with a pair of those in Ninja Spy... I've been trying to hang onto it out of nostalgia but if there's no Monk pass soon I'm considering this. I was thinking a Rog base though, any good stuff in Barb I've not considered specific to Celestia or is it just Celestia is great and Barb is great so doublegreat?
Very awesome for ERing, but still going to generally be using picks at end game. They are great in general, but excel in any situation where you're not bypassing DR. (because Celestia ignore DR as long as you take care not to add damage types to it.) Optimal vs Deathknight. It's all piercing so no need to feat change or anything.
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Darkrok wrote
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Saw someone mention SWF earlier in the thread...how would the damage compare to TWF on a pure Barb build? Unless the wiki is out of date it looks like you're going to net +6 melee power from the SWF line over TWF line. You'll be attacking with 1.5x on 30% extra regular attacks but giving up all the offhand attacks. And for weapons that have a nice vorpal effect (endless night ruby) you'll be vorpalling twice as often which has a nice synergy with the First Blood feat as well as allowing tougher trash to be dropped much more quickly from neg levels.
I'm definitely not an expert on current game mechanics - only been back a couple months after taking a long break - but seems like that idea earlier in the thread could be interesting for those reasons...just not sure how much dps you'd lose going that route.
SWF has a lot going for it, but what most people don't realize how much barb dps comes from all of the stacking on hit effects. So you really want to maximize your attack rate...which means TWF. (Though you gave me an idea for an interesting barb/druid/ranger split to think about.)
Also, Balanced Attacks.
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Very awesome for ERing, but still going to generally be using picks at end game. They are great in general, but excel in any situation where you're not bypassing DR. (because Celestia ignore DR as long as you take care not to add damage types to it.) Optimal vs Deathknight. It's all piercing so no need to feat change or anything.
Cheers, good to know the thinking behind stuff. I may even go Rog/Barb for speed, fun and retaining a sneaky character.
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Cheers, good to know the thinking behind stuff. I may even go Rog/Barb for speed, fun and retaining a sneaky character.
Pure is the way to go. The 5% capstone proc alone can add 100+ damage per swing.
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