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Jul 28th, 2015 at 9:30am
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I have not done raid yet, but done the quests a couple of times each. And I have to say that this is just boring shit.

There was nothing new in those quests, they where built after the same boring formula that Misery's peak is built after, ie find barrier, clear left side and pull leaver, clear right side and pull leaver, proceed.

There was not a single moment where I was thinking, hey, this is fun, or hey, this is new and original. We have seen everything before.

This follows what is in my opinion the shitties updates ever. The storyline in epic orchard was ridiculously bad. What saved that update for me was that the quests in orchard are in themselves really good quests, and ofc all the nice items that we wanted there.

Then we got ToEE, which was just a stupidly big and boring dungeon. Nothing new, nothing fun, and very quickly just a boring slugfest, killing the same group of monsters again and again and again ad infinitum.

And now this. If this years updates are the best that the current developer team can come up with then the game is really doomed  Sad

  
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Reply #1 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 9:54am
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yep, the only original concept in U27 quests is that fucking small button.....and well, that's not enough
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 11:57am
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Yeah.. I haven't done the raid yet. But the quests are pretty dang meh.

Honestly, the original Amrath quests were quite a bit more creative.

The puzzle one is so-so. But the others are fairly weak.


They would have been better off Epiccing Amrath as-is. But.. ya know... TP and stuff.
  

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Reply #3 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:43pm
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Heh, that's why I always try to play Amrath, IQ in heroics, Fens, Carnival, Sands and Sentinels in epic.
Or whatever god forbidden crap xp quest in heroics that noone ever does.

It might be lower xp/min but the quests are 1000 better than shit we have now every "update".
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:02pm
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yep was thinking the same.
there was the terminal delirium chain much better. and i hate beholders
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 2:14pm
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Meat-Head wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 11:57am:
Yeah.. I haven't done the raid yet

Phase 1: enter quest and kill mobs.

Phase 2: get inside room where blades swirl around and kill mobs until door opens.

Phase 3: kill abishai that spawn with fallen archons, fail condition if 5 archons die. Guard south and north portals from 5 reinforcements(pit fiends and stuff) each, fail condition if 15 reinforcements are alive at once. Do this for around 15-20 minutes(timed in waves).

End fight: kill wurm fast, end boss spawns kill it fast. Done.

So creative and totally not boring!
  

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Reply #6 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 4:59pm
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raid is a pm's dream
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 5:32pm
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CosmicCharlie wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
raid is a pm's dream

How so? 8 out of 10 mobs is red-named or orange-named with dw
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 6:30pm
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Loot looks decent enough.
  

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Reply #9 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 10:13pm
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Ginger_Walri wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 5:32pm:
How so? 8 out of 10 mobs is red-named or orange-named with dw


He meant Project Manager, not Palemaster.
They need someone directing tactics and movement, not a Finger specialist.   Grin

or maybe he did mean Palemaster, but by dream meant -
"nothing to do guys so I'll stand in the corner.  SMS me when you're finished, 'kay?"
  
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Reply #10 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 11:27pm
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DropBear wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 10:13pm:
He meant Project Manager, not Palemaster. They need someone directing tactics and movement, not a Finger specialist.

Shit, what was the story about that kid who was like describing every single event he was doing?  "Three skeletons!  OK, I'm getting my undead wand... equipped.  Now I'm shooting at them.  24 damage!  38 damage!  11 damage, and that one's dead.  OK, shooting at the next one...  Drinking a heal pot now..."
  

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Reply #11 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 12:13am
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495 is too much.  maybe 95.
  

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Reply #12 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 12:33am
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i mean nightmare raid is pm nightmare
  
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Reply #13 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 12:57am
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Ah Pook wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 11:27pm:
Shit, what was the story about that kid who was like describing every single event he was doing?  "Three skeletons!  OK, I'm getting my undead wand... equipped.  Now I'm shooting at them.  24 damage!  38 damage!  11 damage, and that one's dead.  OK, shooting at the next one...  Drinking a heal pot now..."

Loved that guy! Couldn't wait to hear about his bathroom break.
  

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Reply #14 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 1:22am
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Just pulled Heroic Dawnbringer, what a piece of crap.

Like I'm going to set down my ML snowstar to use this junk? do the developers do this as some type of torture I wonder?
  
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Reply #15 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 2:00am
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Like Deathwyrm the raid has interesting mechanics (twitch skills in part 1, large and varied trash management in part2 and more twitch/dps tests in part 3)

All of the above is worthless though as it's unplayable right now. What's the point in trying to dodge 450 dmg/tick spikes when my guild is hovering in place? How can I improve my positioning through various aoe attacks when the meteor/ worm breath AOE indicators in no way reflects the area that's actually threatened?

A friend pointed out tonight that they made the same mistake with Deathwyrm. The raid rewards you for coordinating 6 phylactery portal takedowns, but in practical term spawning all those shadows is insta red DA and most likely lags everyone out to the point of failure. How is this not taken into consideration at the point of design?

Most infuriating is TB's abject refusal to even acknowledge the issue

"This hotfix will address several issues, including an issue where lower-level characters are unable to teleport to Amrath from their guild airship, Trials of the Archons quest givers are not properly interacting with players, and some appropriate-level characters are not receiving Mysterious Remnants when they should be. We'll have further detail tomorrow."

Oh so not the game breaking performance issues then?
  
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Reply #16 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 2:45am
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The new "content" has all the hallmarks of amateur design, except for some artwork, which we knew they had lying around. At least the puzzle room wasn't mirrors.

We should probably launch a Kickstarter campaign to pay for game designing lessons. That's the only way Epic Vale will have 1: loot that makes sense, and 2: dungeons that aren't a series of boxes with mobs in them, or the same as heroic, just with severely inflated HP bags.

Looking forward to 5k hp bats at the end of Epic Coal Chamber.

Can't imagine how god-awful sentient weapons will turn out. Pretty sure they'll work in some way for them to cost 10k remnants to upgrade, though.
  

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Reply #17 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 2:50am
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I am IronClan and all I can say is it's obvious this post has an anti-DDO agenda, and that anyone in their right mind could tell that all the reports on the lag here are nothing but hoax.

The internet is not the best place to get your facts straight so I recommend you contact Turbine Customer Support on phone and ask THEM if the game is bugged. I can assure you it is not.

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Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed.


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And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently!

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No? Then STFU you fucking amateur.


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Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people.


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Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Revaulting wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 2:45am:
Looking forward to 5k hp bats at the end of Epic Coal Chamber.




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You guys are just giving them ideas......
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DropBear wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 3:36am:
You guys are just giving them ideas......


Yes. And when they are implemented, we wonder how they have come up with these ideas.

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Loved that guy! Couldn't wait to hear about his bathroom break.


Better hope he doesn't have a wireless mic then....
  
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Reply #22 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 10:00am
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Revaulting wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 2:45am:
Can't imagine how god-awful sentient weapons will turn out. Pretty sure they'll work in some way for them to cost 10k remnants to upgrade, though.


All of the quest entrances will be NPCs standing in a circle in a corner of Meridia.  A teleport to Meridia wll be put into the Hall of Heroes.  Varg probably suggested just putting the NPCs in the Hall of Heroes and bypassing Meridia entirely but management said that was a stupid idea.

The update after wll remove all explorer areas.  Quests will be entered by talking to NPCs standing in a circle somewhere in stormreach.

The update after that will move all NPCs to the Hall of Heroes.
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Reply #23 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 10:44am
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That's what happened since they got with that "1 update every 3/4 months" bullshit. It would take 1 month only for play testing taking feedback into account (and we all saw how turbine values our feedback). The obvious result is a series of updates that add practically nothing to the actual gameplay with added damage of losing customers and angering the rest of mentally sane players. Of course im already excluding mobos retards such as uurulol, irontard etc.

I would prefer one big motherfucking update per year done properly that all that shit turbine is coming up with. Fuck it....let's be honest, epic vale would take time to do only for its relevance in terms of:

loot-->crafting (epic greensteel, EPIC GREENSTEEL)
plot (for those who care)
dedicated wild
theme specific monsters that are not reskinned trash we have seen so far (like shadar kai in epic 3bc)
much more that would require a massive OT

it would also be a good time to implement something "new". Turbine fails to do this every goddamn time (except HH...I love HH). U27 proved how much this is true
  
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Reply #24 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 11:07am
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yeah DDO has totally lost it's Dungeons and Dragon's feel, which for better or worse meant that updates all tried to be a little bit different and offer something new, even it was boring or terrible at least they tried and it was a different.

This update really was just monsters in boxes. It's nice in the one quest they give you a rogue-y version with traps, but its just like 5 trap boxes and a bunch of mobs, it's not really very creative.
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