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Lulubelle Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2 Joined: Jul 27^th, 2015	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #25 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 11:51am	Print Post
	it seems ddo programmers are experts at cut and paste. most of the new content looks so familar


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #26 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 1:18pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 2:45am: Can't imagine how god-awful sentient weapons will turn out. Pretty sure they'll work in some way for them to cost 10k remnants to upgrade, though. Well you can start imagining... Bits and pieces of the Code is already in game. Code Item_Sentient_Level [...] Item_Sentient_Sphere [...] Item_Sentient_XP [...] ItemIsSentient and many more... You just need to look for it at the right place. Mr Reilly wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 10:00am: All of the quest entrances will be NPCs standing in a circle in a corner of Meridia. A teleport to Meridia wll be put into the Hall of Heroes. Varg probably suggested just putting the NPCs in the Hall of Heroes and bypassing Meridia entirely but management said that was a stupid idea. The update after wll remove all explorer areas. Quests will be entered by talking to NPCs standing in a circle somewhere in stormreach. The update after that will move all NPCs to the Hall of Heroes. Nah, they won't even bother much with Meridia... because Meridia is part of the Vale Pack, and they can't really set it like Amrath ( as it's also a quest area for the Vale, the first time you go to it. As well as for Greensteel Crafting... while there's no quest to do in Amrath. ) They will put all the guys in a corner ( and add a Meridia teleporter to the Hall of Heroes ) and the guys will send you straight to the quests... no explorer. Lulubelle wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 11:51am: it seems ddo programmers are experts at cut and paste. most of the new content looks so familar Well that's because they reused Shavarath textures... faster to make a quest that way, and cheaper : no need to book some time for the art guys ( busy on other projects ) to produce new texture.

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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #27 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 1:55pm	Print Post
	Another one for the "I'll buy it when it's cheap and then probably never run it anyway" pile. Compulsion to have the complete set of packs will be the only reason I buy this or the last couple of paid updates. Shame. They really need to pull the plug on Lamannia if they want me to keep buying their updates and therefore the TP. Well, or remember how to knock out a less bland set of quests.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #28 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 3:02pm	Print Post
	Mr Reilly wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 10:00am: All of the quest entrances will be NPCs standing in a circle in a corner of Meridia.� A teleport to Meridia wll be put into the Hall of Heroes.� Varg probably suggested just putting the NPCs in the Hall of Heroes and bypassing Meridia entirely but management said that was a stupid idea. The update after wll remove all explorer areas.� Quests will be entered by talking to NPCs standing in a circle somewhere in stormreach. The update after that will move all NPCs to the Hall of Heroes. I'm OK with the quests. The trial one is kinda unique in a crucible/prove your worth way. The other two are pretty standard. I wish they hadn't done the portals the demons come out of the way they did. 3 waves, portal gone. I liked how it was in Bastion where you had to kill the portal to get it to go away, otherwise it kept spitting out trash mobs. That's more interesting. My biggest gripe is the above. They missed a chance for Epic Shavarath adventure area. Adventure Areas are a great way to get XP in the ETR world. I use eGH, Kings Forest, eOrchard, Thunderholme, High Road to get slayers racked up for easy XP. Place the quest entrances out there somewhere. Give us teleporters after the first completion for those who don't like to run to the quest, but don't just skip the adventure area entirely. That's really lame. I'm OK with the raid being a step-in deal. Getting raid parties through long adventure areas can be a PITA. See Hound/VoD/LoB/MA for details. But again, that can be handled like in Thunderholme with a teleporter to take you where you want to go.


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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #29 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 3:58pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:57am: Loved that guy! Couldn't wait to hear about his bathroom break.

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #30 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:19pm	Print Post
	end reward for 20th list seems to be a complete list of items

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #31 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:21pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:19pm: end reward for 20th list seems to be a complete list of items Epic?

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #32 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:24pm	Print Post
	Ah Pook wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:21pm: Epic? yep, all raid items
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #33 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:30pm	Print Post
	Hmm, tempting. I kinda like those smexy Monk goggles.

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #34 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 11:07am: This update really was just monsters in boxes. It's nice in the one quest they give you a rogue-y version with traps, but its just like 5 trap boxes and a bunch of mobs, it's not really very creative. That one is traps in boxes. So little effort, it makes me wonder if they didn't just steal the layout from someone's amateur module.

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Forest Ex Member	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #35 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 8:08pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:24pm: yep, all raid items Congrats, that's a fast 20 Rubbins.


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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #36 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 8:12pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:19pm: end reward for 20th list seems to be a complete list of items lol three days you've completed it 20 times?� �guess Nayozz isn't one of your alts. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/463381-so-elitists-whined-on-lammania-... Quote: defiler of just EH we need to "gather" at a door with blades doing 450-500dmg with prr 100, if party memebers are dead... but nearby, they do not count as "gathering"... after 2 or 3 trials we are all alive and near the gate... it is an ambush ! well now, we are closed off in a room with blades doing 450-500dmg with prr 100, and pit fiend + minions attacking... what can i say to the elitists ? thanks for making in the flesh, acute delirium, terminal delirium, now this raid annoyngly hard to play... (oh and do not forget the shroud... after the buff up treatment...)
	« Last Edit: Jul 29^th, 2015 at 8:13pm by Yobai »
	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #37 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 1:26am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:19pm: end reward for 20th list seems to be a complete list of items Nice.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #38 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 2:14am	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 8:12pm: lol three days you've completed it 20 times?� �guess Nayozz isn't one of your alts. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/463381-so-elitists-whined-on-lammania-... Yobai, There's people that are dumb/stupid/retarded ( keep the appropriate term ) enough to fucking stand still in the fucking blades and whine that they hurt. I remember the time when they buffed the blades in Shroud and people whined that they could one shot LVL 16 toons... The answer at that time was : don't stand in them. Personally when I see blades, I just give them a wide berth and keep doing what I was doing ( while keeping an eye on them to make sure they don't come after me ).

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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #39 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 3:46am	Print Post
	fellblade unbound....awkward.

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #40 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 3:50am	Print Post
	gauntlets of the arcane soldier, gloves of the forgotten craft, korthos gloves all look alike. are they really this lazy to create new looks for items?

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #41 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 4:07am	Print Post
	m4lacka wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 3:50am: gauntlets of the arcane soldier, gloves of the forgotten craft, korthos gloves all look alike. are they really this lazy to create new looks for items? You betcha.

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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #42 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 5:25am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 4:07am: You betcha.� � Wow did you call me a betch???

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #43 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 5:53am	Print Post
	m4lacka wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 5:25am: Wow did you call me a betch??? I would never do that biatch.

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Goon Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 64 Joined: Aug 4^th, 2014	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #44 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 2:20pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 10:13pm: Finger specialist.� � Heh. "Finger specialist". It never gets old.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #45 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 11:18pm	Print Post
	EN = boring, EE = lagwipe

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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #46 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 11:21pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 11:18pm: EN = boring, EE = lagwipe Just wait! Reaper=boring lagwipe


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TheFifthSock Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 265 Location: The Rusty Nail Joined: Sep 7^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #47 - Aug 1^st, 2015 at 8:24am	Print Post
	DDONoob wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 9:30am: I have not done raid yet, but done the quests a couple of times each. And I have to say that this is just boring shit. There was nothing new in those quests, they where built after the same boring formula that Misery's peak is built after, ie find barrier, clear left side and pull leaver, clear right side and pull leaver, proceed. There was not a single moment where I was thinking, hey, this is fun, or hey, this is new and original. We have seen everything before. This follows what is in my opinion the shitties updates ever. The storyline in epic orchard was ridiculously bad. What saved that update for me was that the quests in orchard are in themselves really good quests, and ofc all the nice items that we wanted there. Then we got ToEE, which was just a stupidly big and boring dungeon. Nothing new, nothing fun, and very quickly just a boring slugfest, killing the same group of monsters again and again and again ad infinitum. And now this. If this years updates are the best that the current developer team can come up with then the game is really doomed� Agree! IMO, not much good content has been produced since U21 with haunted halls and Thunderholm. I did the flagging quests a couple of days ago; short and roflstomp. No challenge what so ever, and no innovative ideas... so far from the quality of the original Shavarath quests.


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #48 - Aug 1^st, 2015 at 11:10am	Print Post
	DDONoob wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 9:30am: I have not done raid yet, but done the quests a couple of times each. And I have to say that this is just boring shit. There was nothing new in those quests, they where built after the same boring formula that Misery's peak is built after, ie find barrier, clear left side and pull leaver, clear right side and pull leaver, proceed. There was not a single moment where I was thinking, hey, this is fun, or hey, this is new and original. We have seen everything before. This follows what is in my opinion the shitties updates ever. The storyline in epic orchard was ridiculously bad. What saved that update for me was that the quests in orchard are in themselves really good quests, and ofc all the nice items that we wanted there. Then we got ToEE, which was just a stupidly big and boring dungeon. Nothing new, nothing fun, and very quickly just a boring slugfest, killing the same group of monsters again and again and again ad infinitum. And now this. If this years updates are the best that the current developer team can come up with then the game is really doomed� Agreed. Just ran the flagging (no, not on EE), and this content is just uninspired yawn. The scenery is decent enough (but mostly re-use), and all the mobs look like rehashes. The mob AI continues to be daft. If you're ranged at the moment, then you're golden. The electric floor trap was the only thing that had me scratching my head until I tabbed to the button. Haven't done the raid yet, but Rubbin's walkthru doesn't fill me with excitement. Why are level 30 quests dropping level 26 loot in the chests? And for the smartasses, no, I'm not doing it on EC. Yeah, love the series reward still giving Heroic loot after the hotfix. Updating or redirecting the loot table was too difficult obviously. Another disappointing effort Turdbine. D- I'd say need to try harder, but they don't. They actually need someone creative and who can think outside the box. I seriously believe they are so up to their eyeballs in technical issues, that they have no mental headroom for creative thinking.

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U27, a piece of crap Reply #49 - Aug 1^st, 2015 at 1:22pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Aug 1^st, 2015 at 11:10am: Why are level 30 quests dropping level 26 loot in the chests? And for the smartasses, no, I'm not doing it on EC.� � Yeah, love the series reward still giving Heroic loot after the hotfix. Updating or redirecting the loot table was too difficult obviously. 1) Because there's a 2 to 6 Level difference between Chest Level and Quest Base Level. -2 Levels is the minimal you'll get ( mainly seen in raids ). The most common is -4 Levels. That's how things are done... Supposedly to keep the poer creep in check... Since it predates Plume de Soleil great Ghostbaning of Loot, it's not even possible to make him guilty of that one. ( hell, It's something that was discovered before the Vast and Mysterious era. ) 2) that sucks... you think they would have taken the time to fix it, since it's just a broken reference in the gamelogic.dat file. ( basically both the Heroic Reward Script and the Epic Reward Script points towards the same loot table [ probably because of a copy paste ], they just need to make the Epic one points towards the Epic Loot Table. As said two or 3 days ago by Steel once again when I nagged him in IRC : They are not going to rollback the Great Ghostbaning of Loot, because it's impossible to roll it back. They are aware that there's a problem with the Loot. Said another way : We sucks at fixing old broken things, and we are not going to come near the loot tables, even with a 10' pole to poke them is provided.

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