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Reply #75 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 9:49am
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Galadriel wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 9:06am:
Yay to more work for us because Turdbine can't code wings + AoE stunning fist on landing Cry

Doesn't Vanguard charge suffer from the same issue?

Once you grow accustomed to it, it works 95% of the time. I think it has to do with moving while using it? Like I said can't pinpoint exactly how I changed my behavior to avoid it, but I did. I will do some testing tonight, maybe.
  
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Reply #76 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:15am
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Weapon focus can be taken twice? improved weapon focus is fighter only, ya?
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Reply #77 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:22am
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Sergod wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:15am:
Weapon focus can be taken twice? improved weapon focus is fighter only, ya?


...and this misspelled sock wants us to believe he is Zergod?  How does it feel to be this new?
  
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Reply #78 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:29am
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[] wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:22am:
...and this misspelled sock wants us to believe he is Zergod?  How does it feel to be this new? 


i havent played a melee in 5 years pls. wiki says fighter required for weapon focus beyond basic weapon focus. Unlike you I am able to ask questions, learn from the discussion, and not leave my head deposited in my own ass.
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Reply #79 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:32am
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Sergod wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:29am:
i havent played a melee in 5 years pls. wiki says fighter required for weapon focus beyond basic weapon focus.


We're not talking intricacies here, home bro, this is basic "read the feat description" stuff; sock harder, sock.
  
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Reply #80 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:35am
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[] wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:32am:
We're not talking intricacies here, home bro, this is basic "read the feat description" stuff; sock harder, sock.


read it. ah so you take it for the other types, and it still grants melee power. nice.
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Reply #81 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:37am
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Do you even ddowiki.com, noob?

"It can be taken multiple times, once for each of the different types, and the melee/ranged power stacks."

You should claim to be someone other than Zergod, someone dumber and noober; like Dipsell.
  
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Reply #82 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:39am
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Sergod wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:29am:
i havent played a melee in 5 years pls. wiki says fighter required for weapon focus beyond basic weapon focus. Unlike you I am able to ask questions, learn from the discussion, and not leave my head deposited in my own ass.


You don't have to explain yourself to an idiot who no longer plays the game Sergod - just let him bark like the little homeless puppy he is. Puerto's antagonistic ways are what get him off. He is a hate fapper!.
  
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Reply #83 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:40am
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palmer01 wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:39am:
You don't have to explain yourself to an idiot who no longer plays the game Sergod - just let him bark like the little homeless puppy he is. Puerto's antagonistic ways are what get him off. He is a hate fapper!.


Take it from a guy who threw in the towel and lives every day of his life with a pathetic excuse for a penis tucked between his pugdy little thighs.
  
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Reply #84 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:56am
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Why no primal scream twist? How are you twisting extra action boosts, when youre in LD?
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Reply #85 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 12:02pm
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Sergod wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:15am:
Weapon focus can be taken twice? improved weapon focus is fighter only, ya?


Anything above regular weapon focus requires fighter levels of some quantity. Basic weapon focus can be taken more than once to grant more Power based on the focus type.

EDIT: I should finish reading the page. You got the answer either way.
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Reply #86 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 1:10pm
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Sergod wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:56am:
Why no primal scream twist? How are you twisting extra action boosts, when youre in LD?


Bad copy paste. Changed it to Purge the Wicked. I usually mooch scream off the party.
  

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Reply #87 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 4:31pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Bad copy paste. Changed it to Purge the Wicked. I usually mooch scream off the party.


werd. i solo/shortman too much to mooch scream.
  
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Reply #88 - Oct 2nd, 2016 at 7:04pm
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L Executioner's Helm (Ins deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Qual CM+4, Mythic +3) 1 slot
E Golden Guile (Imp deception, Ghostly) 1 slot
E Litany (+2 stats, +4 hit and damage) 2 slots
Mysterious Cloak (45 exc Hamp, 25 ins MRR) 2 slots
L Animated Rope (Diversion 28, SA +14, Dodge 17, CM 14 (Ins), Mythic +3) 1 slot
L Ring of Power (Qual Str 4, Command (+2 UMD) Alacrity 15, Ins AP 13, Mythic +3) 1 slot
L Ring of Prowess (Deadly 14, Accuracy 28, MP 8, Mythic +3) 1 slot
CC Gloves (Dstrike/Hamp/Ins Str) 2 slots
Slave craft Boots (Str/AP/Tendon Slice/Q PRR/Mythic +3) 1 slot
Slave craft Bracers (Con/Devotion/Vertigo/Q Con/Mythic +3) 1 slot
Visions of Precision (Wis 12, Ins Wis 4, Stunning 15, Mythic +3) 2 slots
ToEE armor (Fort 150, lesser displace, Absorption, Resistance, Mythic +4) 1 slot
T3 TF Khopesh/ToEE Khopesh (Mythic +4) 3 slots
19 slots
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Reply #89 - Oct 3rd, 2016 at 12:40am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 7:04pm:
L Executioner's Helm (Ins deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Qual CM+4, Mythic +3)
E Golden Guile (Imp deception, Ghostly)
E Litany (+2 stats, +4 hit and damage)
Mysterious Cloak (45 exc Hamp, 25 ins MRR)
L Animated Rope (Diversion 28, SA +14, Dodge 17, CM 14 (Ins), Mythic +3)
L Ring of Power (Qual Str 4, Command (+2 UMD) Alacrity 15, Ins AP 13, Mythic +3)
L Ring of Prowess (Deadly 14, Accuracy 28, MP 8, Mythic +3)
CC Gloves (Dstrike/Hamp/Ins Str)
Slave craft Boots (Str/AP/Tendon Slice)
Slave craft Bracers (Con/Devotion/Vertigo)
Visions of Precision (Wis 12, Ins Wis 4, Stunning 15, Mythic +3)
ToEE armor (Fort 150, lesser displace, Absorption, Resistance, Mythic +4)
T3 TF Khopesh/ToEE Khopesh (Mythic +4)


Like it. Stealing Wink
  
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Reply #90 - Oct 3rd, 2016 at 12:12pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 7:04pm:
L Executioner's Helm (Ins deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Qual CM+4, Mythic +3)
E Golden Guile (Imp deception, Ghostly)
E Litany (+2 stats, +4 hit and damage)
Mysterious Cloak (45 exc Hamp, 25 ins MRR)
L Animated Rope (Diversion 28, SA +14, Dodge 17, CM 14 (Ins), Mythic +3)
L Ring of Power (Qual Str 4, Command (+2 UMD) Alacrity 15, Ins AP 13, Mythic +3)
L Ring of Prowess (Deadly 14, Accuracy 28, MP 8, Mythic +3)
CC Gloves (Dstrike/Hamp/Ins Str)
Slave craft Boots (Str/AP/Tendon Slice)
Slave craft Bracers (Con/Devotion/Vertigo)
Visions of Precision (Wis 12, Ins Wis 4, Stunning 15, Mythic +3)
ToEE armor (Fort 150, lesser displace, Absorption, Resistance, Mythic +4)
T3 TF Khopesh/ToEE Khopesh (Mythic +4)


Looks fantastic.

I know you want to keep a TF weapon for vulnerability, so I'm wondering if anyone's run the numbers on ToEE's +2 Melee power versus a Blizarde's crit-range.

I'm assuming the ToEE pulls ahead, but I'm not sure how close.
  
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Reply #91 - Oct 3rd, 2016 at 12:36pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 12:12pm:
Looks fantastic.

I know you want to keep a TF weapon for vulnerability, so I'm wondering if anyone's run the numbers on ToEE's +2 Melee power versus a Blizarde's crit-range.

I'm assuming the ToEE pulls ahead, but I'm not sure how close.


Could also run HOX armor or shadow killer armor with balizarde or something else offhand....like a triple positive GS khopesh.
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Reply #92 - Oct 3rd, 2016 at 12:59pm
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Sergod wrote on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 12:36pm:
Could also run HOX armor or shadow killer armor with balizarde or something else offhand....like a triple positive GS khopesh.



Which is what I do for the most part, but always looking for new ideas.
  
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Reply #93 - Oct 5th, 2016 at 11:06am
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Sergod wrote on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 12:40am:
Like it. Stealing


As usual.  Wink

Bigjunk wrote on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 12:12pm:
Looks fantastic.

I know you want to keep a TF weapon for vulnerability, so I'm wondering if anyone's run the numbers on ToEE's +2 Melee power versus a Blizarde's crit-range.

I'm assuming the ToEE pulls ahead, but I'm not sure how close.


I have ToEE about 16.6% more DPS than Balizarde in a straight up comparison. But that is not taking into account the ToEE adding the 24 MP to your main hand weapon as well.
  

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5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 11:06am:
As usual.  Wink


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Reply #95 - Oct 5th, 2016 at 11:46pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 11:06am:
I have ToEE about 16.6% more DPS than Balizarde in a straight up comparison. But that is not taking into account the ToEE adding the 24 MP to your main hand weapon as well.


well I don't believe you
but I don't mind giving you the benefit of the doubt
Are you interested in sharing the numbers and/or tests? My numbers guy put bali ahead a few months ago, but am not sure. I am mostly a SHEEP.
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Reply #96 - Oct 6th, 2016 at 6:29pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 11:46pm:
well I don't believe you
but I don't mind giving you the benefit of the doubt
Are you interested in sharing the numbers and/or tests? My numbers guy put bali ahead a few months ago, but am not sure. I am mostly a SHEEP.


Now you ask. I lost my sheet from before. Redone, this time with more variables:

Assuming ballpark baseline 100 MP, +50 raw damage modifier, 23 seeker, 35 base SA damage. Plug in your own numbers for a personalized comparison.

Balizarde
3d8+58 (71.5)
14-20x4 (+4 OC/DC) = x2.25 (160.875)
23 seeker = 36.8 avg (197.675)
100 MP = x2 (395.35)
plus proc damage 3d8 phleb + 10 augment (418.85)
35 SA x 150 MP = 87.5 (506.35)

Epic Etched Khopesh
5.5d8+57 (81.75)
16-20x4 (+4 OC/DC) = x1.95 (159.4125)
23 seeker = 27.6 avg (187.0125)
124 MP = x2.24 (418.908)
plus proc damage 7.5 G acid torrent + 12.05 G acid blast + 12.75 G maim + 10 augment (461.208)
35 SA x 186 MP = 100.1 (561.308)

Plus an additional 44.883 weapon damage and 12.6 SA damage added to the main hand. (618.791)

618.791/506.35=1.222

ToEE is ahead of Balizarde by 22.2%
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Reply #97 - Oct 6th, 2016 at 7:38pm
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I was under the impression that Elemental vulnerability is still overwriting standard vulnerability from thunderforged and greensteel. I could be wrong but I recall Eth talking about this.

Gettin ahold of my math one sec.

I feel like you are underestimating damage mods by 30ish and the weapon die by 1 or 1.
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Reply #98 - Oct 6th, 2016 at 10:36pm
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Does anyone else know if the TOEE is dropping the group's dps by 20%? Have several people in TS claiming it but no proof of any sorts.

I went through Eth's old posts on his Barb (since I knew he posted that 240 MP screenshot). I couldn't find anything talking about whether or not he was using the caster acid weapon.
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Took my numbers from my toon.
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     Balizarde            
     DAMAGE      108.1      
     17.1            3.8[1d8]
     76      damage modifier      
     10      favored enemy      
     5      advancing blows      
     SEEKER      23      
     CRITICAL MULTIPLIER      2.25      
     SEEKER MULTIPLIER      1.25      
     MELEE POWER MULTIPLIER      2.46      146 MP
                 
CRIT AND BASE DAMAGE      669.0585            
PROC DAMAGE      13.5            
                 
     SNEAK ATTACK DAMAGE      60      
     SA MULTIPLIER      3.19      
                 
SNEAK ATTACK DAMAGE      191.4            
                 
TOTAL      873.9585            
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     Epic Etched Khopesh            
     DAMAGE      110.94      
     23.94             6.3[1d8]
     72      damage modifier      --> loss of 3 quality damage
     10      favored enemy      
     5      advancing blows      
     SEEKER      23      
     CRITICAL MULTIPLIER      1.95      
     SEEKER MULTIPLIER      0.95      
     MELEE POWER MULTIPLIER      2.7      170 MP
                 
CRIT AND BASE DAMAGE      643.0941            
PROC DAMAGE      32.3            
                 
     SNEAK ATTACK DAMAGE      60      
     SA MULTIPLIER      3.55      
                 
SNEAK ATTACK DAMAGE      213            
                 
TOTAL      888.3941            

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Sneak Attack Total      60.5
     
Deception 14         22
3 Rogue                  3
3d6 deepwood         10.5
117 hide                  25
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