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Is there a shiradi build that isn't easy mode?
Picture Fran playing a shiradi build. Would be nothing easy about that.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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Is there a shiradi build that isn't easy mode?
I don't know. I'm doing the 12 fvs/6wiz/2pal build and it kinda sucks. Maybe I'm missing echrono set. maybe it's smth else.
When it was a first life 14wiz/4fvs/2mnk build ages ago, it rocked. Is it just the magic missiles? i dunno. There was no empyrian magic, no wellspring of power, no master of knowledge, no Scion of Fire, no golden orb... Maybe shiradi itself was nerfed again?
At the very least I can say that Joy barely procs now. And it kinda sucks for sure.
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Alex DeLarge wrote
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I don't know. I'm doing the 12 fvs/6wiz/2pal build and it kinda sucks. Maybe I'm missing echrono set. maybe it's smth else.
When it was a first life 14wiz/4fvs/2mnk build ages ago, it rocked. Is it just the magic missiles? i dunno. There was no empyrian magic, no wellspring of power, no master of knowledge, no Scion of Fire, no golden orb... Maybe shiradi itself was nerfed again?
At the very least I can say that Joy barely procs now. And it kinda sucks for sure.
send tell when in game. will ftfy.
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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send tell when in game. will ftfy.
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Stop making goo goo eyes at each other.
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Stop making goo goo eyes at each other.
Even on the Vault, love finds a way.
I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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Rubbinns wrote
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send tell when in game. will ftfy.
Is there a trick to joy? That might make shiradi worth playing again.
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5 Foot Step wrote
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Is there a trick to joy? That might make shiradi worth playing again.
No. Not that I know. Just little tricks to snapshot his archon and blade barrier. Could also be the gear missing things like lantern ring, spell lore, resonation, lgs stick.
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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Rubbinns wrote
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No. Not that I know. Just little tricks to snapshot his archon and blade barrier. Could also be the gear missing things like lantern ring, spell lore, resonation, lgs stick.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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5 Foot Step wrote
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It's really powerful when the archon gets supremacy, wellspring, night revels, empyrean, current spellpower, joy(if u ever get it), indulgence of the mad queen(even rarer still), and lgs procs. Same for blade barrier.
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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Rubbinns wrote
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Same for blade barrier.
But does it make blade barrier worth casting in epic content?
Silence is golden, but I only get silver rolls.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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Revaulting wrote
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But does it make blade barrier worth casting in epic content?
It doesn't play well with nerve venom. But it has it's places.
I love to zerg and fart BBs then destroy the few stragglers that managed to survive to the end.
Also, circle kiting is my fave. Even with a dumped wis score I've seen 600-700 ticks per mob.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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After reading through a few of those linked threads I think I'll go for the 9/7/4 split(rather than 10/4/6) primarily because I have a complete Epic Abashai set, and that apparently works better on the 9/7/4?
I also have an Epic Darkstorm Helm which I feel like should help. At least at the lower epics. Since I TR as soon as I hit 30 I can't say I care much about the higher-end gear.
I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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noamineo wrote
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rather than 10/4/6) primarily because I have a complete Epic Abashai set, and that apparently works better on the 9/7/4?
sort of works the same on both.
10/6 casts at 15/11 without abishai and just doj gloves. 17/13 with abishai.
9/7 casts at 13/11 without and 17/15 with
you get 1 extra projectile on CM SLA with abishai on 9/7. The 10 can let go of abishai and use 15/11 but have easier time fitting in lgs sets
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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Alex DeLarge wrote
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Even with a dumped wis score I've seen 600-700 ticks per mob.
So, no.
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Revaulting wrote
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So, no.
depends on when it's cast. With tons of stacks going, supremacy, joy, lgs. That is 1k force power, 90% crit chance, 175~ crit multipler. Going to be more than 1k on saved tick.
Resonation, Lantern, and lgs vacuum or radiance all should proc per tick. DC should be 45~ish easily attainable now. Not bad for non-evasion mobs as they will fail every once in a while in most of the content under level 30.
Probably the best kiting tool for shiradi
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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Rubbinns wrote
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Probably the best kiting tool for shiradi
Thanks for going into more detail. I basically abandoned blade barrier a while back, for anything but heroics. If it's worthwhile again, that's great.
Silence is golden, but I only get silver rolls.
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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Revaulting wrote
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So, no.
I should have mentioned that I don't have all those things that Rubbins mentioned and wasn't even capped at the time. So, dps should be much higher.
He's right about all of the buffs except for Arcane supremacy. That shit is so short that I am happy if I am able to cast Wellspring -> Archon -> G.ruin -> Ruin in that order. Theres maybe perhaps 1 opportunity to cast BB in that window.
I wish I could quicken the Archon. Summon speed sucks balls. At least it's 5 minutes of running around with HULK'd out Archon which is fun
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Re: Shiradi Paladin-base build?
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Rubbinns wrote
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sort of works the same on both.
10/6 casts at 15/11 without abishai and just doj gloves. 17/13 with abishai.
9/7 casts at 13/11 without and 17/15 with
you get 1 extra projectile on CM SLA with abishai on 9/7. The 10 can let go of abishai and use 15/11 but have easier time fitting in lgs sets
See that's the thing: I DO have a complete epic abashai set. I do NOT have any LGS sets. So 9/7 we go-go.
But I am still going to go with human and give palemaster/death aura a whirl. I did a test run using my wizard alt and was quite pleased with the results. I'm really hopping U32 hurries it's ass up, Cannith Crafting will make slotting so much easier.
I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Alex DeLarge wrote
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HULK'd out Archon
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Weeeeell, so far shiradi has not been kind to me. The damage is nice and the self-healing is acceptable(enough-so that I may need to revive my palemaster alt
) but the build lacks survivability and the constant targeting is a chore. Its workable, but on the whole it may just not be for me.
I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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