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Dr Faustus Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 41 Joined: Jun 17^th, 2016	Optimal build for dps? Jun 17^th, 2016 at 3:25am	Print Post
	Ignoring any and all factors besides dps, what is the highest dps build at the moment? Wolf (10drd/6rgr/4ftr), tempest str khopesh (20rgr), assassin dex blitz (20rog), shiradi w/ pots (13wiz/4fvs/3wlk or 10sor/6wiz/4fvs), or something else? I'm going to be testing the above listed builds, as well as, any suggested when lamm opens up in the coming month. Thanks in advance for any and all help/responses.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #1 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 5:29am	Print Post
	http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1461864099/104#104 long thread, lot of info there. Wolf and trees. I suspect goldie's shiradi template would come out to around 50-60 seconds on joy-joy. ddint test : warlock mech shuri goldie assassins also didnt get to try kensei after the live patch. will get around to trying most of those next lama build.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Dr Faustus Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 41 Joined: Jun 17^th, 2016	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #2 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 7:18am	Print Post
	Thank you for the link and all the effort spent testing! Don't think anything (non-wolf) will match that wolf time you have posted. Just wow! If you don't mind me probing for more details, what were your hp/prr/ac/dodge at (rough guess if you don't have an exact number please)?


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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #3 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 9:08am	Print Post
	Dwarf, pure artificer, dual wielding Dwarven Axes; there's literally nothing better.


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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #4 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 9:41am	Print Post
	[] wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 9:08am: Dwarf, pure artificer, dual wielding Dwarven Axes; there's literally nothing better. In the hands of an expert, sure. But a newb would struggle to control the power of this one.


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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #5 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 9:45am	Print Post
	DoRayEgon wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 9:41am: But a newb would struggle to control the power of this one. You calling that faggot a newb? That's fucking racist.


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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #6 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 9:49am	Print Post
	[] wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 9:45am: You calling that faggot a newb?� That's fucking racist. Sorry meant noob.


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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #7 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 9:53am	Print Post
	DoRayEgon wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 9:49am: Sorry meant noob. That's better. For those of you in the dark (no pun intended) "newb" is short for "New Black"; someome who, while genetically African-American, has no semblance of a black identity; synonymous with "Uncle Tom."


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #8 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 3:07pm	Print Post
	Dr Faustus wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 7:18am: what were your hp/prr/ac/dodge at (rough guess if you don't have an exact number please)? That build has the defenses of an eggshell. Literally nothing besides dodge. It's just to get the fastest lama kobold time . It can be played but it will need huge number of past lives, will need to use dodge rotations like Meld, and Elab Parry, and displace clickies, forcefield/shadow cookie, etc. Tilo's sneakzilla has defensive roll while still having insane dps and can go in heavy armor if needed.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Tilo Ex Member	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #9 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 6:55pm	Print Post
	20 US/ES/SE Warlock, because you can pull 30 mobs at a time. Fey of course, for wings when slowed by red alert to pull another 5. But that's just in 99% of the game.
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Dr Faustus Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 41 Joined: Jun 17^th, 2016	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #10 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 7:17pm	Print Post
	I was going for single target damage (because that's where it counts in LE shroud). Wouldn't tree be better aoe dps anyways? I mean I haven't seen a single warlock solo EH (or for that matter even EN) doj, whereas tree builds are capable of doing it with ease (even the old, harder doj).


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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #11 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 7:22pm	Print Post
	Dr Faustus wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 7:17pm: I was going for single target damage (because that's where it counts in LE shroud). That's EXACTLY what Dwarven Axe dual-wield is for!


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #12 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 7:33pm	Print Post
	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--YnBFlxpkI dude on my server ee doj solo monk tree

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Dr Faustus Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 41 Joined: Jun 17^th, 2016	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #13 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 8:30pm	Print Post
	Impressive - figured it was only a matter of time that someone would be able to given the raids nerfing. Still really impressive accomplishment!


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #14 - Jun 18^th, 2016 at 4:38pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 5:29am: also didnt get to try kensei after the live patch. will get around to trying most of those next lama build. Live testing and calcs is showing it is on part with ranger. More hp, more prr. Self-heals aren't as good and less incorp / dodge. Ranger is better IMO if you have the hp PLs. I'm able to hit 2350 hp though with a LGS set and tovens on the fighter though---so I can take a direct hit from Sor'jek and survive. It's nice to have cleaves / laywaste on a TWF after not having done that for years---need 4+ targets though for it to be worth it. LINK TO BUILD http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1466282023
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #15 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 11:15am	Print Post
	Dr Faustus wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 3:25am: Ignoring any and all factors besides dps, what is the highest dps build at the moment? Wolf (10drd/6rgr/4ftr), tempest str khopesh (20rgr), assassin dex blitz (20rog), shiradi w/ pots (13wiz/4fvs/3wlk or 10sor/6wiz/4fvs), or something else? I'm going to be testing the above listed builds, as well as, any suggested when lamm opens up in the coming month. Thanks in advance for any and all help/responses. Dr Faustus wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 7:17pm: I was going for single target damage (because that's where it counts in LE shroud). If single target DPS is your only consideration, you want pure dex assassin in LD. http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1458078943 (Though I haven't been able to get the level 18 TA core to work anymore recently.� )

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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #16 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 1:14pm	Print Post
	Melee AoE - Wolf Melee Single Target - Assassin (maybe wolf too) Ranged - Mech Not sure about Magic...


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Sergod Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1110 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #17 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 2:47pm	Print Post
	20 human ranger khopesh


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Sergod Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1110 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #18 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 3:07pm	Print Post
	12fighter/6ranger/2paladin with kensei, tempest stuff (thousand cuts dance of death), divine might, and know the angles? Curious how that would compare to other options.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #19 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:02pm	Print Post
	Sergod wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 3:07pm: 12fighter/6ranger/2paladin with kensei, tempest stuff (thousand cuts dance of death), divine might, and know the angles? Curious how that would compare to other options. that should be good due to trip boosting. probably around the same as 15/5 pally tempests now.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Tilo Ex Member	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #20 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 9:32pm	Print Post
	Cleric has more dps than any two of these builds put together if all you want is single target boss burst. Maybe even more than any three of these... Mmm, in a raid setting...
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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #21 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:21am	Print Post
	Sergod wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 3:07pm: 12fighter/6ranger/2paladin with kensei, tempest stuff (thousand cuts dance of death), divine might, and know the angles? Curious how that would compare to other options. Will lose crit expansion or DoD there somewhere since you can't take 2 Tier 5s and Ranger crit expansion is at Level 12.


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Sergod Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1110 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #22 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:29am	Print Post
	DoRayEgon wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:21am: Will lose crit expansion or DoD there somewhere since you can't take 2 Tier 5s and Ranger crit expansion is at Level 12. Ya wouldnt have any crit expansion.


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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: Optimal build for dps? Reply #23 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:53am	Print Post
	11 Rogue 6 Fighter 3 Ranger w/Khopesh Tier 5 Kensai, rest pts in StD defensive stance, tempest 10% off hand, harper int to hit/dmg and KtA Should have about 8 sneak dice with expanded range/multiplier on khopesh.


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