This is just off the top of my head, there are probably many more.

1) Ranged weapon special damage not scaling (example: 3d6 evil damage will only do 1d6)

2) Guards not scaling (example: 3d6 evil damage will only do 1d6)

3) Damage types not breaking DR (example: 3d6 evil damage won't break the DR of a monster with DR 15/evil)

4) Damage types not imposing level penalty (example: 3d6 evil damage won't cause a negative level to a good aligned character)

5) Reverse deconstruction (example: 3d6 evil damage deconstructs into good essences)

6) Force spell power not applying


Please add any I've neglected.

It was SteelSieve's (as in: "He has a mind like a steel sieve") post which prompted this one.  It's classic (but not at all classy) how they knew about the problem and, rather than making their own post about how they'd identified an issue and intended to fix it, waited until a player pointed out that things weren't working correctly.  Wasting both the OP's time doing unnecessary troubleshooting of a problem they could have simply announced, and also the time of everyone else who tried to help the OP.

Revaulting wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:

they're just lazy pieces of shit. There really isn't any reason they could not have blocked certain combinations from forming. It's not a rarity increase/decrease since it is statistically insignificant. It doesn't add any flavor to have strictly vendor trash show up in chests. Just laziness. Lack of pride in their work. General asshatery.

Revaulting wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:


*oh, the quality*

Revaulting wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:



For 8, keen should not scale.  They went through a fairly careful process of eliminating a lot of overstacking of crit chances.  Adding them back in would be foolish.
Deception should scale, there are examples of that in loot already.  Feeding, no examples in loot to base scaling the NRL property on.  Some effects just don't scale, like underwater action.  Some should, like deathblock.  On a lot of gear deathblock also includes a % of negative energy absorption.

9)  At the very least the scaling needs to be increased a good bit.  When I can craft a L7 fort 100 item, or pick up a L9 fort 100 neck piece, I shouldn't be seeing L15 fort 78 items at all.  That's just stupid.  No one wants less than 100 fort as soon as they can squeeze it onto their build.

10) Banishing and Smiting no longer drop.  Also there is no more Holy, etc.  The new and broken damage types have replaced them all.  Vorpal on a L1 item I just don't care about.  It should still add the +.5W (I should see if any of the NRL items I have with vorpal on them actually do that), and that makes them deadly for the level.  I don't see these as bugs, just replacements and exclusions.  Aside from the new damage types not breaking DR, which they have said is a bug they intend to fix.

10) Also not bugs.  Just lazy and sloppy programming by people who probably don't play the game and have no idea that handwraps of doubleshot and the like are quite literally useless.  Even though they aren't bugs, this kind of crap should be fixed.  Weapons of +5d6 some_damage_type and 5 some_spell_type lore I'm not so concerned about.  There are gish builds, so there should be the possibility of items for those builds.  It goes more into the lazy/sloppy programming, as they seem to have set up the 'slot 1' and 'slot 2' effects lists in a way that generates too many gish items and not enough pure melee/ranged or caster items.

And of course all of that stupid will be built in to NewCC on the ground floor.  I saw people gushing about being able to craft a +X Stat +Y Insight Stat item in the three long NewCC threads.  I could be wrong but I don't think that's possible given the limitations of the slot1/slot2 lists and the restrictions of what effects can go on what kind of items.

Rubbinns wrote on Jul 29^th, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Ding. Loot system still worse, broken as fuck and no even acknowledgements in sight. That was when I decided a short break was another long break. Logged in to check out the loot changes, played and looted enough chests to see it was fucked, realised they were doing nothing about it, stayed logged off. If they can't be bothered with their game any more then neither can I.

Shoddy, lazy, inept, boring, broken, embarrassing, demonstrates a lack of understanding of playing the game. Most of these things apply both to the loot system and the devs building it out.

They've pissed away most of their heritage and goodwill with the game by now. Given the movement/combat engine is all that's left, I expect "damage causes lag" and "you now have to stop moving to attack" to come next.

crunch wrote on Jul 30^th, 2016 at 3:12pm:

Whatever.  I'm not typing out New Random Loot a dozen times when the context makes the acronym clear.

I have been reminded of a couple new ways NRL is broken:

11) Items still showing up with +0 effects.

12) Still missing effects in the names on some items.

13) The 'spellsight' effect says it applies its bonus to spellsight, a skill which does not exist in the game.

Revaulting wrote on Jul 31^st, 2016 at 10:46am:

I stand corrected.

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I found them in the U20 Patch 1 release notes.  Levels from 1-7 for both.  It's interesting that the wiki does not have a page for either effect.  It's a nice effect, even at a sole level drained.  They should definitely keep it on the tables, and scaling.

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Well, yeah.  This is dead with the arrival of NewCC and the removal of the Masterful Craftsmanship shards.  Who knows what people will be able to do with their Cannith urns or whatever.  It was a grind to get enough favor just to be able to buy them, I hope they don't just become junk in my green bag.
And who knows where Fort will be at L7 in the new system.  But looking at the items I've picked up that were twice that level or more and didn't get to 100, it's not looking good.

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Take a look at Any of the armor drops in the legendary raids.  Who knows why a 27% negative energy absorption is called "Deathblock IX" (maybe it's 3% per?), but it's there.  Why would palemasters bitch about this?  It's not like there's more than a trivial PvP aspect to DDO.  Unless it absorbs incoming negative heals, which would be a bug they should fix rather than considering removing the effect because that's easier than fixing a bug.

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You'll need to talk to Revaulting about that.  He's the one who skipped 7 and used 10 twice.  I figured he was high, thought it was funny, and rolled with it.

Frank wrote on Jul 30^th, 2016 at 2:36am:

I double-checked.  Stats (NoWorries called them 'Attributes' and I'm going to assume that means stats like STR, DEX, etc.) are a Group 3 effect.  So no items with Str and Ins Str on them.  And in addition all Group 3 effects require a +100 skill for some stupid reason (and Group 2 a +50 skill).  And in further addition there are item slot restrictions on what stats can go where, and they are eliminating flexible shards.  Someone on the forums took the time to point out in careful detail how arbitrary and unbalance the stat breakdown is.  Odds on them changing any of it based on a nice piece of factual evidence that they did it wrong?

She did say they might take a look at the level of stats and tweak the system to allow them to be higher at lower levels, which since NewCC is based on NRL would also adjust all items currently in existence.  Odds that this will happen?

Revaulting wrote on Jul 31^st, 2016 at 10:46am:


I can't believe there enough of these assholes that they're even a constituency, but an influential consituency?!


Da fuck?!