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U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Oct 30th, 2016 at 6:49pm
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StoneCunning v1.0

Race: Dwarf
Alignment: Lawful Good
Class: 20 Paladin


Stats:..........Level 1 (36 pt build)

Strength............18 + level ups
Dexterity............8 (+5 tome required)
Constitution.......18
Intelligence.........8 (tome recommended for skill points)
Wisdom..............8
Charisma...........14


Feat Progression:

Level 1   : Two Handed Fighting
Level 3   : Shield Mastery
Level 6   : Improved Two Handed Fighting
Level 6   : Onatar
Level 9   : Improved Critical: Slash
Level 12 : Greater Two handed Fighting
Level 15 : Improved Shield Mastery
Level 18 : Improved Shield Bash
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Precision
Level 26 : Perfect Two Handed Fighting
Level 27 : Completionist
Level 28 : Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Level 29 : Dire Charge
Level 30 : Weapon Focus Slash
Level 30 : Scion of Arborea



Enhancements:

Vanguard:44 AP

Core 6/6

Shield Specialization (2 pts)
No Weakness 2/3

Shield Specialization (2 pts)
Missile Shield 2/3
AB: Melee Power 3/3
Stunning Shield 3/3

Shield Specialization (2 pts)
Fatal Bulwark (2 pts)
Str+1

Shield Specialization (2 pts)
Vanguard Armor Mastery 3/3
Myrmidon's Edge 2/3
Str+1

Shield to the Face (2 pts)
Armored Strength (2 pts)
Shield Rush 2/3
Disorienting Smash 3/3


Sacred Defender:17 AP

Core 2/6

Extra Lay on Hands 3/3
Resilient Defense 3/3
Sacred Armor Mastery 3/3

Durable Defense 3/3

Tenacious Defense 3/3


Racial: 18 AP

Core 1/5

Dwarven Armor Mastery 3/3
Axe Training (2 points)

Child of the Mountain 3/3 (6 pts)

Stand like Stone 3/3

Dwarf Fortress 3/3


KotC: 1 AP

Core 1/6


Epic Destiny: Divine Crusader

Purge the Wicked
Interrogation
Endless Turning 3/3

Consecration 3/3
Confront Any Foe (2 pts)

Sacred Ground (2 pts)
Blessed Blades (2 pts)

Crusade(2 pts)

Celestial Champion(2 pts)
Castigation (2 pts)
Heavenly Presence (2 pts)

Strike Down (2 pts)


Twists: 4/3/2/1/1

Wild Weapons
Endless Lay on Hands
Legendary Shield Mastery
Legendary Tactics
Primal Scream (drop stance, scream, restance)


Gear:

L Executioner's Helm (Ins deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Qual CM+4, Mythic +3) set
L Pendant of Warrior Focus (AP 21, I Dstrike 7, Mythic +3, slot)
L Planar Compass (Ins Phys Shelter 17, Qual Mag Shelter 8, Ghostly, Mythic +3)
Mysterious Cloak (45 exc Hamp, 25 ins MRR, 2 slots)
Slave craft Belt (Str/Resistance/Tendon Slice/Q Con/+3 Mythic) set
L Ring of Prowess (Deadly 14, Accuracy 28, MP 8, Mythic +3)
Ring of Deceit (Improved Deception, 20 Intim, 2 slots) SWAP: Circle of Malevolence for Incite when needed
CC Gloves (Dstrike, Hamp, Ins Str)
Boots of Blessed Travels (Dodge 12, Q Armor Mastery 2, Speed 15, FoM, 2 slots, Mythic +3)
Slave craft Bracers (Cha/AP/Vertigo/Q Cha/+3 Mythic) set
Visions of Precision (Wis 12, Ins Wis 4, Stunning 15, Mythic +3)
Legendary Executioner's Platemail (Well Rounded 2, Q deadly 4, I Intimidate 11, Q Accuracy 6, Green slot, Mythic +4) set
T3 TF Dwarf Axe 17-20x4
L Breaker of Bodies (Shield Bash 28%, Maiming 8, Bashing 8, Riposte 8, Purple Slot, Mythic +4) set

5-piece slaver set = +2 Artifact bonus to Strength and Dexterity, +4 Artifact bonus to Melee Power/Ranged Power, +4 Artifact bonus to Deadly

A drawback will be having to slot Fortification, but heavy + BF lives + ship buff + Sacred Defender should be good enough (100+15+15+6=136%)
« Last Edit: Jan 11th, 2017 at 1:04pm by 5 Foot Step »  

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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #1 - Oct 30th, 2016 at 10:29pm
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What HP/PRR/AC/Etc . . . will you see on this at level 30?
  
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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #2 - Oct 30th, 2016 at 11:10pm
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136 seems like really bad Fort
  
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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #3 - Oct 31st, 2016 at 1:46am
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It gives up 6 con from Sacred going dwarf over human.
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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #4 - Oct 31st, 2016 at 2:07am
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Legendary critters are bypassing upwards of 200 Fort, if you have less then that you're going to be getting critted constantly
  
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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #5 - Oct 31st, 2016 at 10:30am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 30th, 2016 at 6:49pm:
StoneCunning v1.0
Gear:

L Executioner's Helm (Ins deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Qual CM+4, Mythic +3) set
L Pendant of Warrior Focus (AP 21, I Dstrike 7, Mythic +3, slot)
L Planar Compass (Ins Phys Shelter 17, Qual Mag Shelter 8, Ghostly, Mythic +3)
Mysterious Cloak (45 exc Hamp, 25 ins MRR, 2 slots)
Slave craft Belt (Str/Resistance/Tendon Slice/Q Str/+3 Mythic) set
L Ring of Prowess (Deadly 14, Accuracy 28, MP 8, Mythic +3)
Ring of Deceit (Improved Deception, 20 Intim, 2 slots) SWAP: Circle of Malevolence for Incite when needed
CC Gloves (Dstrike, Hamp, Ins Str)
Boots of Blessed Travels (Dodge 12, Q Armor Mastery 2, Speed 15, FoM, 2 slots, Mythic +3)
Slave craft Bracers (Cha/AP/Vertigo/Q Cha/+3 Mythic) set
Visions of Precision (Wis 12, Ins Wis 4, Stunning 15, Mythic +3)
Legendary Executioner's Platemail (Well Rounded 2, Q deadly 4, I Intimidate 11, Q Accuracy 6, Green slot, Mythic +4) set
T3 TF Dwarf Axe 17-20x4
L Breaker of Bodies (Shield Bash 28%, Maiming 8, Bashing 8, Riposte 8, Purple Slot, Mythic +4) set

5-piece slaver set = +2 Artifact bonus to Strength and Dexterity, +4 Artifact bonus to Melee Power/Ranged Power, +4 Artifact bonus to Deadly

A drawback will be having to slot Fortification, but heavy + BF lives + ship buff + Sacred Defender should be good enough (100+15+15+6=136%)


Honestly, those boots can be replaced on this build.  Get some CC boots Slavers boots.  CC can do Insight Fort and slavers can do base fort (or allow you to rework the gear to get fort elsewhere).   If you go CC, you can still get the dodge, if you want it, or striding and some parrying (or sheltering I may be blind, but I wasn't seeing a sheltering item in the gear set). 
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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #6 - Oct 31st, 2016 at 7:41pm
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IIRC, Improved Shield Bash is a waste of a feat on a full Vanguard.  (The shieldbash, being limited by a cooldown timer, and your shield bash % being super high w/o the feat made it kind of a waste.)  Maybe that can open up PA/Cleave/Great Cleave instead?
  

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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #7 - Nov 1st, 2016 at 7:29am
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Improved Shield Bash also makes shield bashing a dual/secondary attack that is constant and automatic while swinging a normal weapon.. without it you only have a chance of shield bashing .. if you have auto-attack active it will shield bash for you as a regular action and one less thing to activate.
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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #8 - Nov 2nd, 2016 at 10:56am
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Bigjunk wrote on Oct 30th, 2016 at 10:29pm:
What HP/PRR/AC/Etc . . . will you see on this at level 30?


A lot I guess...Not really the goal here. My purpose is to minmax DPS on a S&B build. Note the scare quotes ("Tank") in the title.

harharharhar wrote on Oct 30th, 2016 at 11:10pm:
136 seems like really bad Fort


Everything over 100 only matters against rogue mobs. Yes, LE rogues will reduce that to less than 100%.

Doggydaddy wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 2:07am:
Legendary critters are bypassing upwards of 200 Fort, if you have less then that you're going to be getting critted constantly


No they are not, because there are no 200+ CR rogue mobs. Those would be Champions ignoring fort, which means you will still be crat on with over 9000 fortification.

Asheras wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 10:30am:
Honestly, those boots can be replaced on this build.  Get some CC boots Slavers boots.  CC can do Insight Fort and slavers can do base fort (or allow you to rework the gear to get fort elsewhere).   If you go CC, you can still get the dodge, if you want it, or striding and some parrying (or sheltering I may be blind, but I wasn't seeing a sheltering item in the gear set). 


That's a good point. Dodge 15 boots of sheltering 38 of Insightful fort 79 are very appealing, but it gives up 2 max dex (effectively giving up 2 dodge) and Speed, which I can't see anywhere else to fit in. Striding would be on a quiver or an augment with this gear layout, no big deal. Parrying (insightful saves) is included in Riposte 8 on the shield. I honestly forgot about sheltering, because I was originally looking at Devil's Defense for the shield. It would be on an augment then, so it is only 20 less.

Note that  armor max dex = 4 armor + 3 racial armor mastery + 3 sacred armor mastery + 3 vanguard armor mastery + 2 q armor mastery + 2 augment + 2 ship buff = 19
and dodge = 12 item + 3 PLs = 15 (room to hit 19 w/ bard buffs.)

QuantumFX wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 7:41pm:
IIRC, Improved Shield Bash is a waste of a feat on a full Vanguard.  (The shieldbash, being limited by a cooldown timer, and your shield bash % being super high w/o the feat made it kind of a waste.)  Maybe that can open up PA/Cleave/Great Cleave instead?

ZooperDooper wrote on Nov 1st, 2016 at 7:29am:
Improved Shield Bash also makes shield bashing a dual/secondary attack that is constant and automatic while swinging a normal weapon.. without it you only have a chance of shield bashing .. if you have auto-attack active it will shield bash for you as a regular action and one less thing to activate.


Yeah, I don't think it works properly if you don't take the feat. It is still like 3-5% more bashes though going from 68% to 88%.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/448524-The-math-behind-shield-bashes?s...

Also I took Strike Down and Confront Any Foe for cleaving.
  

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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #9 - Nov 2nd, 2016 at 3:20pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 1:46am:
It gives up 6 con from Sacred going dwarf over human.

damage boost and hamp as well. Then there is 10 move speed, 50% ac from shield and armor. Getting 4% hp from dwarf tree is like +4 con. dwarf gets 7% weapon dmg, 3 dex cap and a decent boost.

If you wanted to give up all dps then take the defender capstone and get endless turns from DC. LGS unconscious range and HoTs. a turn undead recharges every 84 seconds. 

pdk dont count me out is 20
ward token is 40
ship is 15
defender capstone is 40
lgs trip pos is 224

339 unconscious range if pdk.
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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #11 - Nov 2nd, 2016 at 7:35pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 10:56am:
My purpose is to minmax DPS on a S&B build. Note the scare quotes ("Tank") in the title.


What is your point then?  Max DPS means not going S&B.  Shields are for tanking, and thus the question about "HP/PRR/AC/Etc" is a valid one.  If this is just a flavor build, fine, nothing matters there.
  

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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #12 - Nov 3rd, 2016 at 12:57pm
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Is this the part of the thread where we link the obviously better build?

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Re: U33 Dwarf Fortress "Tank"
Reply #13 - Nov 3rd, 2016 at 2:22pm
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Frank wrote on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 7:35pm:
If this is just a flavor build


It is. I outlined a build for Grand last week (or whenever that was) then got wondering what it would look like fully fleshed out. I played something very similar a while after Vanguard came out, but the game is significantly different now. That being said...

Con:
18 base
8 enhancement
7 tome
4 Quality
2 completionist
2 profane
2 guild
1 exceptional
=44

HP:
300 levels
510 con
135 EPLs
30 pl barb
10 dwarf
17 defender AP
10 argo favor
20 vitality
20 guild
50 DC cores
20 heroic durability
4% dwarf
20% stance
=1398

PRR:
60 armor
10 shield
10 Imp shield mastery
15 legendary shield mastery
17 i shelter
20 mythic
36 PLs
25 defender
10 heavenly presence
=203

AC:
10 base
11 dex (8 base+8 enh+2 profane+2 guild+1 exc+2 completion+7 tome+2 artifact)
38 armor
20 shield
45 EPLs
8 insight
4 vanguard
3 dwarf armor mastery
3 vanguard armor mastery
3 sacred armor mastery
3 dwarf fortress
8 natural
8 deflection
6 guild
=170


« Last Edit: Nov 22nd, 2016 at 4:06pm by 5 Foot Step »  

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