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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Dec 31^st, 2016 at 11:51pm	Print Post
	This is not my build. It is Seagryn's. Some of the gear may be wrong because its constantly getting shuffled. Close enough. It is a realistically max'd AC build. I played it and felt it was awesome even though I was missing some of the gear. Cheers to this guy. This is a great build. --- --- Level Fighter 14 / Paladin 5 / Wizard 1 Race Human Feats Heroic 1 Toughness 3 Past Life: Barbarian \| Completionist 6 Empower Healing 9 Skill Focus: Intimidate 12 Toughness 15 Dragonmark of Sentinel 18 Past Life: Fighter Bonus 1H Toughness 1W Quicken Spell 1F Dodge 2F Shield Mastery 4F Mobility 6F Improved Shield Mastery 8F Combat Expertise 10F Heavy Armor Master 12F Spring Attack 14F Heavy Armor Champion Epic 21 Toughness 24 Epic Toughness 27 Epic Reflexes 30 Toughness Destiny 26D ESF: Intimidate 28D Elusive Target 29D Fount of Life Legend 30L Scion of Celestia Earned Draconic Vigor Coin Lord Training Slot Setup Augments Head Legendary Hardened Hide Helmet Elemental Victory swap Neck LGS Eyes LGS Body Platemail of the Celestial Sage MDB +2, Power 250 Trinket Legendary Planar Compass Back Legendary Slavemaster's Cloak Spell Absorb Swap Wrists LGS Hands LGS Waist SLC Ring SLC Ring CC DEX, Feet Boots of Blessed Travels Mainhand LGS - Positive Devotion, Amp, Amp Offhand CC Devotion, False Life, INS Intimidate ac 368 Imp Mage Armor 31 CE 31 aura 6 base 10 armor 41 extra armor 53 shield 25 extra shield 33 ship 9 dex 19 natural armor 22 protection 14 rituals 2 insightful 7 epl 45 ap 6 hardened 15 CON 70 base 16 levelups 7 tome 6 stance 6 item 17 goib 1 ap 2 insightful 7 yugo 2 ship 2 quality 4 hp 3505 stance 412 lgs opposition 619 strength of vitality 412.4 base 198 epic 100 feats 176 durability 35 vitality 20 false life 57 CON 900 ship 20 yugo 20 ap 51 scion 150 pl 135 destiny 200 prr 291 sheltering 38 mythic 4 insightful 17 ap 25 stance 25 feats 21 ce 20 blitz 30 epl 36 shield mastery 25 shield 10 heavy armor 38 tome 2 intim 140 base 23 epic 10 feats 17 item 22 quality 5 insight 11 luck 2 twist of fate 6 CHA 16 ap 15 gh 4 spider mask 1 tome 5 ePL 3 MDB 21 base armor 6 ship buff 2 fighter 3 paladin 3 boots 2 pl feat 1 augment 2 mobility 2 dodge 20 item 12 feats 5 iPL 3
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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3489 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #1 - Jan 1^st, 2017 at 2:15am	Print Post
	0 soloability, 0 dps . Strictly for party play.


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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #2 - Jan 1^st, 2017 at 8:15am	Print Post
	Are lays also nerfed on reaper? Didnt try em, entirely forgot to test


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #3 - Jan 1^st, 2017 at 8:34am	Print Post
	Is it possible to do dwarf instead? You lose a feat and the hamp but could gain the 4% hp and the prr action boost and the throw your weight around for some damage. I didn't see stats but it looked like a lot of points in con and cha. Strength is probably mid 50's ish? I also wonder about dropping the stalwart defender stuff and doing some Kensai for the power surge and +8 to all stats. That would help the hp and the intim as well as make it a bit more capable in dealing damage. Given the diminishing returns on ac and prr at the highest levels I'm not sure you are giving up much defensively.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #4 - Jan 1^st, 2017 at 8:40am	Print Post
	Also. What about helf for race instead of human. To get the second intim? Since your dps is shit you need to use that to hold Aggro. Just keep your helmet on to hide that face


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #5 - Jan 1^st, 2017 at 11:00am	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Jan 1^st, 2017 at 2:15am: 0 soloability, 0 dps . Strictly for party play. ya lol Lelouch wrote on Jan 1^st, 2017 at 8:15am: Are lays also nerfed on reaper? Didnt try em, entirely forgot to test Yes. Take a look at Light the Dark. Massive heals for people with lay on hands. Asheras wrote on Jan 1^st, 2017 at 8:34am: Is it possible to do dwarf instead?� �You lose a feat and the hamp but could gain the 4% hp and the prr action boost and the throw your weight around for some damage.� �I didn't see stats but it looked like a lot of points in con and cha.� �Strength is probably mid 50's ish?� Lets look and see if dwarf would be better. Keep in mind though that I don't have access to Seagryn's AC spreadsheets. If you want to do damage and tank then I would go with a monk tank---it can get about 75% of the defensive effectiveness of this with 120 melee power and TWF khopeshes. My front number on this MagicTurtlePig was single digits in reaper, and I didn't feel like I had a lot of time to be doing damage anyway. There are scenarios where you could but throwing renewal on others is more useful. Before we look at dwarf... dwarven PRR boost causes -50% movement speed and has a long cooldown HUMAN 1 feat 1.6 healing amp multiplier DWARF 4 con 15% shield AC Radiant Forcefield Dragonmark with only 1min cooldown 4% HP H-ELF Diplomatic Impunity (Activate: Reduce physical damage you take by 25% for 15 seconds or until you attack. Until you rest you have -2 Diplomacy (stacks up to 100 times). On a shared cooldown with Half-Elven Social Graces, and your total Diplomacy score must be positive to use this ability. (Cooldown: 1 minute). CONCLUSION You could go dwarf for flavor, but you'll make the healer work harder. The marginal increase in health for a substantial increase in healing amp is apples to oranges. I would go with healing amp. Again this build is kinda above my pay grade. I focus on DPS builds. This guy has been making tanks since TOD came out. Asheras wrote on Jan 1^st, 2017 at 8:34am: I also wonder about dropping the stalwart defender stuff and doing some Kensai for the power surge and +8 to all stats.� That would help the hp and the intim as well as make it a bit more capable in dealing damage. Given the diminishing returns on ac and prr at the highest levels I'm not sure you are giving up much defensively.� A tank with less than optimal defensive set-up might work fine for you. This is a concept build of the most powerful tank available. (I'm pretty sure AC can't go higher.) It only took 3 swings from a trash mob in SKULL 10 to kill the Turtle, but it got hit so seldom as to be comedic. We won't know the reaper meta until the rewards hit but this thing is solid.
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	OUR GOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l7N-WLa3Q Right of Self-determination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE volt_ wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm: Be a container for your genes to control your behavior in order to reproduce
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #6 - Jan 1^st, 2017 at 11:33am	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jan 1^st, 2017 at 11:00am: ya lol Yes. Take a look at Light the Dark. Massive heals for people with lay on hands. Lets look and see if dwarf would be better. Keep in mind though that I don't have access to Seagryn's AC spreadsheets. If you want to do damage and tank then I would go with a monk tank---it can get about 75% of the defensive effectiveness of this with 120 melee power and TWF khopeshes. My front number on this MagicTurtlePig was single digits in reaper, and I didn't feel like I had a lot of time to be doing damage anyway. There are scenarios where you could but throwing renewal on others is more useful. Before we look at dwarf... dwarven PRR boost causes -50% movement speed and has a long cooldown HUMAN 1 feat 1.6 healing amp multiplier DWARF 4 con 15% shield AC Radiant Forcefield Dragonmark with only 1min cooldown 4% HP H-ELF Diplomatic Impunity (Activate: Reduce physical damage you take by 25% for 15 seconds or until you attack. Until you rest you have -2 Diplomacy (stacks up to 100 times). On a shared cooldown with Half-Elven Social Graces, and your total Diplomacy score must be positive to use this ability. (Cooldown: 1 minute). CONCLUSION You could go dwarf for flavor, but you'll make the healer work harder. The marginal increase in health for a substantial increase in healing amp is apples to oranges. I would go with healing amp. Again this build is kinda above my pay grade. I focus on DPS builds. This guy has been making tanks since TOD came out. A tank with less than optimal defensive set-up might work fine for you. This is a concept build of the most powerful tank available. (I'm pretty sure AC can't go higher.) It only took 3 swings from a trash mob in SKULL 10 to kill the Turtle, but it got hit so seldom as to be comedic. We won't know the reaper meta until the rewards hit but this thing is solid. The dwarf is probably a nonstarter. The helf seems more viable, depending on whether you are having trouble holding Aggro. You don't give up much defense for better Aggro management. I've not seen any videos of this guy though. Was he having trouble holding Aggro when intim was on timer? What is the play style? Shield block and intim?


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #7 - Jan 1^st, 2017 at 11:44am	Print Post
	The kensai is bringing a lot of hp to the table with the power surges. 120 before multipliers. At that prr that's a solid boost. You are losing what looks like about 28 ac or so. I'm not sure what the diff is on 340 vs 368. If it is worth it to get an extra 150 hp or so. And +4 on the Intim and the saves boost. I'd imagine it needs some play testing. Reaper is unknown and ac in those ranges is kinda rarely tested. There is a sweet spot in just not sure where it is. I am wary of builds that just go full retard/overkill without analysis tho as the game has programmed in heavily diminishing returns. I'm not saying that work hasn't been done. Just that I'm not seeing it yet so I'm still looking at all the variables.


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #8 - Jan 1^st, 2017 at 12:11pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jan 1^st, 2017 at 11:33am: The dwarf is probably a nonstarter.� �The helf seems more viable, depending on whether you are having trouble holding Aggro.� You don't give up much defense for better Aggro management.� �I've not seen any videos of this guy though.� Was he having trouble holding Aggro when intim was on timer?� �What is the play style?� Shield block and intim?� let me find the vids this was from the last Lamma iteration, I've been too lazy to upload the other ones we did

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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #9 - Jan 1^st, 2017 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jan 1^st, 2017 at 11:44am: I'd imagine it needs some play testing.� Reaper is unknown and ac in those ranges is kinda rarely tested.� There is a sweet spot in just not sure where it is.� I am wary of builds that just go full retard/overkill without analysis tho as the game has programmed in heavily diminishing returns. +1

	OUR GOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l7N-WLa3Q Right of Self-determination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE volt_ wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm: Be a container for your genes to control your behavior in order to reproduce
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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #10 - Jan 1^st, 2017 at 12:13pm	Print Post
	defense is not like the size of titties

	OUR GOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l7N-WLa3Q Right of Self-determination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE volt_ wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm: Be a container for your genes to control your behavior in order to reproduce
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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #11 - Jan 2^nd, 2017 at 8:16am	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jan 1^st, 2017 at 12:13pm: defense is not like the size of titties Personally I prefer a Perky defense.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #12 - Jan 2^nd, 2017 at 12:00pm	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jan 1^st, 2017 at 11:00am: DWARF 4 con 15% shield AC Radiant Forcefield Dragonmark with only 1min cooldown 4% HP Dwarf also has racial armor mastery for a stacking +3 dodge and +6 AC (3 for increased max dex, and 3 straight up. Dwarf Fortress adds another stacking untyped 3 AC if you can fit that in.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #13 - Jan 2^nd, 2017 at 12:11pm	Print Post
	Also, have they added relevant anti kiting effects to reaper yet? Otherwise, it'll just be a dps fest and still not getting hit.

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Fred Astaire Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 95 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #14 - Jan 2^nd, 2017 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	It looks a lot like a tweaked version of The Eleven Steel Maiden build on the forums https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/476148-The-Elven-Steel-Maiden-(-AC-Fig... from what I've been told by someone using the steel maiden build, reaper 10 demolishes it.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #15 - Jan 2^nd, 2017 at 1:15pm	Print Post
	Fred Astaire wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2017 at 12:12pm: It looks a lot like a tweaked version of The Eleven Steel Maiden build on the forums https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/476148-The-Elven-Steel-Maiden-(-AC-Fig... from what I've been told by someone using the steel maiden build, reaper 10 demolishes it.� The major differences I see in a quick scan between the Steel Maiden and the Turtle are: 1) Steel Maiden is a STR build. level ups in STR. And stats split between Int, Con, Dex, Cha and Str. The Turtle seems to focus more on Con (Tough to say since the turtle doesn't really give a stat breakdown besides Con). It isn't starting at a 14, though (the elf is part of what is killing that). And I think the Cha is higher on Turtle as well. This results in +5 to the intim, although that is probably also coming from somewhere else. 2) Steel Maiden has 1/2 the HP. That's because the Steel Maiden is trying to do some DPS and tactics. There is no 5 piece HP LGS Set killing your gear. There are no multiple toughness feats being taken. That HP amount (1800-ish) is going to lead to 1 or 2 shotting in 10 skull. That loss of almost 2k HP is probably a big part of the issue. 3) The PRR is probably off a little. But not significantly. And the Heal amp is probably off by 60 or so. I will say that the AC looks like it is on par. It looks like Reaper 10 skull is going to require a bit more commitment to defense than Steel Maiden is giving. Mainly in the area of HP. I still don't think you need to go full bore like the Turtle did, but this is a bit too far of a swing towards tactics and DPS. Just a quick scan. I do like the thought about the elf and the dragonmark for displacement. But there are definitely trade offs to that racial choice.


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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #16 - Jan 2^nd, 2017 at 1:38pm	Print Post
	I wanted to try the pally/fighter stacking ac concept since the Steel Maiden thread was posted. Capped 2 wiz version ( for prr clicky ), epic prr, deific ward, earth scion of this before xmas. Already regret it, it's the most fucking boring build ever. Thing had like 240 ac and prr at 20 ( the plan was to try see ac works at level while levelling ) but respecced to kensei after two hours. Someone convinced me that Emp Hjeal ( and self hjealing ) is a waste in Reaper anyway ( haven't played myself, cuz why the heck would I ), sorc instead of wiz for 6 intim is an option.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #17 - Jan 2^nd, 2017 at 6:11pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2017 at 12:11pm: Also, have they added relevant anti kiting effects to reaper yet? Otherwise, it'll just be a dps fest and still not getting hit. LFM of the future: 10S, ranged DPS only, BYOH, be able to raise (All classes deselected except ranger, monk, and rogue)

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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #18 - Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 3:17pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2017 at 6:11pm: LFM of the future: 10S, ranged DPS only, BYOH, be able to raise (All classes deselected except ranger, monk, and rogue) If it goes live anyway like what we saw on Lamania BYOH is impossible.


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #19 - Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 3:22pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2017 at 6:11pm: LFM of the future: 10S, ranged DPS only, BYOH, be able to raise (All classes deselected except ranger, monk, and rogue) people keep saying this but honestly I don't see it the power of a well built tank, 2 high quality CCers and DOD aoe dps is insane fear reapers are a bitch and the slowing ones suck as well
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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #20 - Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 3:31pm	Print Post
	If SSG gave reaper mobs 2x max player runspeed and auto-teleporting to the player after 5-10s of being unable to reach them via normal pathing = kiting and platform cheesing fixed. Of course, it would be glorious to see the mass outrage on the motherboards from all the ranged and caster players who have no idea how to manage their aggro.� Which also happens to be exactly why it will likely never happen. Everquest used a system like this to prevent kiting.� The only mobs that were kite-able were the ones that they specifically intended by tweaking their abilities.
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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #21 - Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 3:36pm	Print Post
	Digimonk wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 3:31pm: If SSG gave reaper mobs 2x max player runspeed and auto-teleporting to the player after 5-10s of being unable to reach them via normal pathing = kiting and platform cheesing fixed. Of course, it would be glorious to see the mass outrage on the motherboards from all the ranged and caster players who have no idea how to manage their aggro.� Which also happens to be exactly why it will likely never happen. All great ideas, or simply make it so we run backwards at half-speed. Everquest used a system like this to prevent kiting.� The only mobs that were kite-able were the ones that they specifically intended by tweaking their abilities.
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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #22 - Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 3:39pm	Print Post
	Digimonk wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 3:31pm: If SSG gave reaper mobs 2x max player runspeed and auto-teleporting to the player after 5-10s of being unable to reach them via normal pathing = kiting and platform cheesing fixed. Of course, it would be glorious to see the mass outrage on the motherboards from all the ranged and caster players who have no idea how to manage their aggro.� Which also happens to be exactly why it will likely never happen. Everquest used a system like this to prevent kiting.� The only mobs that were kite-able were the ones that they specifically intended by tweaking their abilities. +1 I have never tried everquest. Still worth it?

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	Bigjunk wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 3:17pm: If it goes live anyway like what we saw on Lamania BYOH is impossible. Everyone brings cocoon so they can tag each other with it. WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 3:22pm: people keep saying this but honestly I don't see it the power of a well built tank, 2 high quality CCers and DOD aoe dps is insane You think people are going to sit around waiting for a perfect party with 4 slots dedicated to archetypes that no one plays anymore? Screw that. Ain't nobody got time.

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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: Magic Turtle /// Reaper Tank from Skull 10 Lamma Reply #24 - Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 8:54pm	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 3:39pm: +1 I have never tried everquest. Still worth it? No idea what it's like these days to be honest. I played it for about 11 years from beta on until the end-game raiding guild I was in retired. Didn't feel like joining any other guilds so I retired, too, and haven't logged back into it in about 4 years. Loved the game back then, but it definitely required more of a serious commitment and time investment to be end-game than DDO does.


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