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Reply #25 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:53pm
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Lelo shared his reaper video with me. It was pretty impressive. I still can't get into the tree playstyle though...I just don't like how it plays.

Despite whatever other shit he talks, he should still get a measure of respect in my opinion for originating the whole wolf build thing though.
  

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Reply #26 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:59pm
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Lelouch is a boss, and all this shit talking about him is just by loser wannabee 4chan cucks.

  
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Reply #27 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 1:27pm
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He'll never be Tilo no matter how hard he tries.  Long live Tilo.
  
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Reply #28 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 1:41pm
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It's sad the 4chan cucks chased Tilo off. His builds may not have all been LE ready, but they were creative and often stacked interesting things other people hadn't thought of yet.

I feel like of all the forums, the build forums need some sort of system for weighing who should get to post and reply frequently. Or there needs to be an invite only builder forum voted on by the members of said forum for membership. A lot of us may not always agree, but I still have mad respect for people I fight with like 5foot or forest or steelstar.
  
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Re: OP shit in reaper
Reply #29 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 2:47pm
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harharharhar wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
I feel like of all the forums, the build forums need some sort of system for weighing who should get to post and reply frequently. Or there needs to be an invite only builder forum voted on by the members of said forum for membership. A lot of us may not always agree, but I still have mad respect for people I fight with like 5foot or forest or steelstar.


Hmmmm. This suggestion sounds like a moderated board for builders.  This not the place for moderation.  Try the mobo's if you are looking to filter out negativity and trolling. 

Also some of the best builders are also some of the worst trolls here.
  
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Reply #30 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 4:31pm
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Dobby doesn't do well on moderated board because he is in fact a negative smarmy dick who can't tell a troll from an honest post. Like this one probably.

Something about decent building and social ineptitude go hand in hand.

Take KNN for example.
  

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Reply #31 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 4:44pm
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Grow a fucking dick you millennial attention-whore. Not every thread needs to mention you. This board is not a place for a big pussy circle jerk.
  

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Reply #32 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 4:48pm
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Digimonk wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 11:10am:
Sorry about that

Wrong.
  

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Reply #33 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 4:51pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:53pm:
Despite whatever other shit he talks, he should still get a measure of respect in my opinion for originating the whole wolf build thing though.

I agree.  Lelouch's swf+twf was great.  I learned a lot about wolf builds from Munkenmo and Lelouch.  He has also contributed some decent stuff in some of the older tree build threads.  Mucho vault cred to him for those.

The problem is, after posting that one great build, it was like the floodgates of weird, random theorycraft and bs were opened.  Ever since then, it's been all half tested ideas and uber exploit builds that he goes on and on about but won't share.  Nobody likes a tease that never delivers.


spathic wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 4:48pm:
Digimonk wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 11:10am:
Sorry about that.

Wrong.

Yeah, yeah.  I know, apologizing is a viloation of the cardinal rules here, but that's a stupid culture to foster.

If I'm wrong or out of line on something, I'll own it and/or apologize for it.  That's how I roll.

In my opinion, it's much healthier response than making up lame excuses and straw man arguments or just pretending it didn't happen.  If more people shared this outlook, the quality of discussions on this board would be much better in general.
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Reply #34 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 5:11pm
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harharharhar wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
Or there needs to be an invite only builder forum voted on by the members of said forum for membership.

What if you didn't get voted into the cool kids club though?   Shocked
  
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Reply #35 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 5:44pm
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Digimonk wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 4:51pm:
Yeah, yeah.  I know, apologizing is a viloation of the cardinal rules here, but that's a stupid culture to foster.

If I'm wrong or out of line on something, I'll own it and/or apologize for it.  That's how I roll.

In my opinion, it's much healthier response than making up lame excuses and straw man arguments or just pretending it didn't happen.  If more people shared this outlook, the quality of discussions on this board would be much better in general.


I actually think the one upmanship and creative destruction fostered by the competitive spirit adds significant value. Being able to read reasoned and explicit discussion about why a particular build is a pile of shit is useful to me.
  

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Reply #36 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 6:23pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:53pm:
Despite whatever other shit he talks, he should still get a measure of respect in my opinion for originating the whole wolf build thing though.

Lolz. The wolf concept and swf + twf exploit was known months before Lelouch ( forgot how he called himself before ) posted the build ( october ).
You can for example find Eth's wolf Lama videos from may 2014.
Update 22 ( bard rework and swf ) went live june 2014.

So yeah, big respect.
I found that really knowledgeable people are always helpful whatever stupid shit you ask them ( at least on Gland ) and not playing some super secret self serving primadonna cunts.

Carry on.


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Reply #37 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 6:39pm
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spathic wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 5:44pm:
I actually think the one upmanship and creative destruction fostered by the competitive spirit adds significant value. Being able to read reasoned and explicit discussion about why a particular build is a pile of shit is useful to me.

This has no bearing on saying you're sorry or acknowledging that you were wrong.  Likewise, admitting one was wrong does not preclude any sort of discussion leading up the conclusion that a build is a pile of shit.   Tongue
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Reply #38 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 6:59pm
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Digimonk wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
What if you didn't get voted into the cool kids club though?   Shocked


Shit happens.

I average 0-4 hours a week in DDO for the last 6-12 months. I post builds mostly after I've played them for a month or so (or much longer) as a record for myself, but also for others to try.

People like to rag on me about being an attention whore or whatever. That's fine. The fact is though unlike a lot of people, I don't post theoretical builds. I ONLY post builds I've played. That's why I tend to feel ownership of them. It's also what can sometimes frustrate me about other builds people post that I comment on. It's clear in many cases people have never even played the build at end game if they even leveled it. Let alone honed it and made it their own over many hours.

With throwers, because that's what I play the most, I can almost always tell when someone has actually played their build for a while at cap, and people who haven't.

Anyway the point of all of this is: I'd like to keep building talent for DDO on the Vault, and cleaning up the asshole 4chan peanut gallery from ruining and polluting build threads would be a good way to do that. They can do enough of that in other sub forums. Just an idea.

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Reply #39 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 7:30pm
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harharharhar wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 6:59pm:
Shit happens.

I average 0-4 hours a week in DDO for the last 6-12 months. I post builds mostly after I've played them for a month or so (or much longer) as a record for myself, but also for others to try.

People like to rag on me about being an attention whore or whatever. That's fine. The fact is though unlike a lot of people, I don't post theoretical builds. I ONLY post builds I've played. That's why I tend to feel ownership of them. It's also what can sometimes frustrate me about other builds people post that I comment on. It's clear in many cases people have never even played the build at end game if they even leveled it. Let alone honed it and made it their own over many hours.

With throwers, because that's what I play the most, I can almost always tell when someone has actually played their build for a while at cap, and people who haven't.

Anyway the point of all of this is: I'd like to keep building talent for DDO on the Vault, and cleaning up the asshole 4chan peanut gallery from ruining and polluting build threads would be a good way to do that. They can do enough of that in other sub forums. Just an idea.


at least I have the common decency to insult you directly
are you a woman?

  

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Reply #40 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 7:35pm
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Wipe wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
Lolz. The wolf concept and swf + twf exploit was known months before Lelouch ( forgot how he called himself before ) posted the build ( october ).
You can for example find Eth's wolf Lama videos from may 2014.
Update 22 ( bard rework and swf ) went live june 2014.

So yeah, big respect.
I found that really knowledgeable people are always helpful whatever stupid shit you ask them ( at least on Gland ) and not playing some super secret self serving primadonna cunts.

Carry on.


Exactly.  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #41 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 7:38pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 7:30pm:
at least I have the common decency to insult you directly
are you a woman?


You can clearly see how he is manstruating all over the builds section, what does that make him (her)? You decide.
  

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Reply #42 - Jan 20th, 2017 at 7:47pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 7:30pm:
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Case in point
  
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harharharhar wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 7:47pm:
Case in point


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harharharhar wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
4chan cucks.



harharharhar wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
cucks



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Wipe wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
Lolz. The wolf concept and swf + twf exploit was known months before Lelouch ( forgot how he called himself before ) posted the build ( october ).
You can for example find Eth's wolf Lama videos from may 2014.
Update 22 ( bard rework and swf ) went live june 2014.



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Reply #46 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:04am
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Wipe wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
Lolz. The wolf concept and swf + twf exploit was known months before Lelouch ( forgot how he called himself before ) posted the build ( october ).
You can for example find Eth's wolf Lama videos from may 2014.
Update 22 ( bard rework and swf ) went live june 2014.

Not true regarding Oct. While Eth may have been working on a wolf around the same time, Lelouch was the first one I recall that actually spelled it all out in the builds section here and had an in-depth discussion about the details and ways to tweak the wolf build in various ways.

Turns out Lelouch started discussing this here on May 12th.   Then he came back in a new thread on July 10th after doing several PLs with the wolf and provided quite a bit of detail.

May 12th, 2014
http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1399895920/0

July 10th, 2014
http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1404996614/0
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Sam posted his necrolock so will throw it on the flavors of the month thread
  

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Reply #48 - Jan 22nd, 2017 at 11:06am
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Smiley Why all the hate guys Smiley

If you don't like what Overvaan has to say, just ignore him...

Not quite sure how many of you are on Cannith, but Overvaan is without a doubt one of the top 3 players on there...

He comes and goes, as I think he is back from a long absence, but he has been around for years, and he is a really really good player...and builder as well, and despite his somewhat aggressive posting style is rather fun to group with in game actually.



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Reply #49 - Jan 22nd, 2017 at 11:16am
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Asheras wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 11:17am:
EDIT:  If you want to keep it to yourself and your friends, that's totally cool.  I get that as well.  Lots of folks keep stuff quiet when they discover it and take advantage of it.  But keeping it to yourself means keeping it to yourself.  Not mentioning it in vague terms and making unsubstantiated claims that you refuse to back up.

Yep, dude is a retard.
  
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