harharharhar wrote on Apr 11
th, 2017 at 10:39pm:
Man speaking of glass cannon. You're ego is on a fucking hair trigger dude. I told you that you were wrong. I didn't say you're retarded, or your mother was a donkey, or that you were bad at DDO.
Your refutation of my assertion that I can outkill cheeselocks in 18+ quests was to simply suggest I was lying. Why would I lie about that? Moreover, where's your proof that I haven't or that these builds can't do that? You don't have the benefit of the doubt, I do.
I've run 7 RR's since I was last capped, and the first 3 were thrower builds (12monk/6Ranger). Once I have IPS, 10k, Greensteel/eStar shuri's, ~70'ish AP, cannith crafted/rand gen twink gear, Litany, frozen tunic, gilvs set, haste pots, (and so on), I was consistently outkilling my Warlocks from my guild and others on Khyber. GOOs, Fiends, and Feys. Most of them had just as OP gear and similiar PLs/EPLs, tomes, etc.
I urge you to try if since you're so interested in shuri builds as you claim.
36 DwS
11 NsP
24 AA
1 Helf/Human
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72 AP
You can have 50-56 Dex pretty easily at level 18. I imagine with everything including more temp buffs you could even hit 60+. That along with 20%+(Killer:20)% Doubleshot in DwS, and up to 3/6/10% Doubleshot PL. You can wear up to Doubleshot +6 gear if you can find or craft it. +2 from ship. You're looking at about 2.5 shuri per throw before 10k. During 10k that goes to over 3 per throw. With Haste and 18BaB from Tensers (and Gilvs if you have it, I do) you are actually throwing pretty fast.
When you hit 10k, and RP Boost, then Sniper Shot>Head Shot>Aimed Shot>Sniper Shot (with 7d8 Elemental arrows * ~120 spellpower per shuri + SA damage) you kill virtually any pack of mobs in any ml18-19 content people are running right now doing rr's. If you're good with IPS and work at it, you will outkill anyone.
It's completely disgusting. Now get off my lawn.
My Ego? I'm not the one that shitposts in every thread with a shuri build using a Capt. Obvious class and AP layout claiming they copied me and should thank me and tell me how great I am.
I never said you were lying. You probably do out kill some warlocks. I said you were either using an exception trying to disprove the rule or you are running with some mediocre warlocks.
I ran a shuri with a very similar AP layout right after I ran a warlock PL. I use all the gear you listed except the Gilvanors set. The shuri did fine at 18+ but my warlock still cleared faster until upper epics. I'm not saying shuri builds suck at 18+, I'm just saying they aren't kings of the hill until mid to upper epics.
The warlock sequence is Spirit Blast --> Eldritch burst --> (aura tic somewhere in there) --> oops, mobs are usuaully dead. No more buttons needed. 2 button kills are faster than 3-5 button kills. As an added bonus, you can throw in a meta'd Evard's while you charge towards the horde if needed. The mobs don't have to be lined up nicely like they do for IPS.
I think shuri builds require more skill and are more fun than warlocks, but a proper auralock is a face-melting AE bomb in mid heroics through mid epics. Warlocks start slowing down in upper epics and/or higher skull reaper once mobs get enough HPs to take more than one round of aura tics, spirit blast and eldritch burst due to the cooldowns. That's when shuris start pulling ahead since they can autoattack while waiting on cooldown timers.
P.S. Not sure why you're not using Merciful Shot in your rotation after Sniper Shot --> Head Shot since that combo will generally have mobs in SA mode and below half health at that point.
Merciful Shot - Deals +3[W] damage. On Sneak Attack: If the target is below 50% health, deal 500 damage. This damage scales with 100% Ranged Power.