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Reply #450 - Nov 26th, 2019 at 10:31am
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FINALLY completed my gear set on my Shuri thrower yesterday. Took FOREVER to get that martial Wisdom ring minor artifact!
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Reply #451 - Nov 26th, 2019 at 10:48am
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Technomage wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 10:31am:
FINALLY completed my gear set on my Shuri thrower yesterday. Took FOREVER to get that martial Wisdom ring minor artifact!


Congrats. What's your list? How is the build working out for you?
  

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Reply #452 - Nov 26th, 2019 at 11:30am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 10:48am:
Congrats.

Thanks.


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Helm: Legendary Wallwatch Circlet (+8 Protection augment)
Necklace: Cracked Core (Fear Immunity augment, Blindness Immunity augment)
Goggles: Legendary Collective Sight (Insightful Wisdom +10, Nearly Finished) No augments yet
Echo of Ravenkind (Topaz of Power +250, Topaz of Water Breathing)
Armor: Legendary Wildwood Outfit (no augments yet)
Cloak: Silver Dragonscale Capelet (Insightful Dex +10) no augments yet
Bracers: Legendary Black Opal Bracers (Globe of True Imperial Blood augment)
Belt: Legendary Braided Cutcord (no augments yet)
Boots: Legendary Shadow Sprinters (Sapphire of Good Luck +2)
Gloves: Legendary Wildwood Gauntlets (Draconic Soul Gem augment)
Ring 1: Radiant Ring of Taer Valaestas (Diamond of Festive Wisdom +2)
Ring 2: Legendary Perfect Pinnacle (Topaz of Sonic Resistance 40)

Weapon, Main Hand: Spite, the Fractured Shards (Meteoric Star Ruby, Ruby of the Vampire Slayer)
Weapon, Off Hand: Complete Thunderforged Kama (1st Degree Burns, Dragon's Edge, Draconic Reinvigoration) Ruby of Devotion 138 augment, Diamond of Vitality +20 augment
Quiver: Epic Purifying Quiver

Filligree: 5 Nystul's, 5 Deadly Rain


Halfling Monk 20 Ninja Spy running in Water Stance
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Stats of Note: Dex 80, Con 70, Wis 70


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How is the build working out for you?

Seems to do well in low reapers like R1 KT and R1 PN. Can do LH THTH, too.

Overall, I'm fairly happy with the build but I need to work on getting all the HPs available for 150 favor from various factions. I'll have over 1,600 HPs (I have 1593 when not in Reaper now) when I finish those up.
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Reply #453 - Nov 27th, 2019 at 8:53am
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Does 1st degree burns do anything in the offhand? I always put 150 devotion in that slot.

Have you tried running in Shadowdancer?
  

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Reply #454 - Nov 27th, 2019 at 11:09am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 27th, 2019 at 8:53am:
Does 1st degree burns do anything in the offhand? I always put 150 devotion in that slot.

Yeah, I probably should have put the Devotion there. Force of habit I guess.

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Have you tried running in Shadowdancer?

Not on this toon. I see all the Ranged Power but I wanted Blitz, the CON points, and the Crit Range and Multiplier from Dreadnaught.
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Reply #455 - Dec 10th, 2019 at 8:09am
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"Legendary Arc Ricochet"

Description says: 5.5[1d2+2] + 15 Slash, Bludgeon, Magic.

Does the slash part really work on zombies and the like? and is there any effect on Improved Critical feat from it? I assume there should be no difference when it comes to IC: thrown.

It makes this shuriken a really nice DR breaker now that I noticed it.  Grin
  

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Reply #456 - Dec 10th, 2019 at 12:03pm
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 10th, 2019 at 8:09am:
Does the slash part really work on zombies and the like?


I would assume so. I swap to Morninglord shuri for zombies though.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 10th, 2019 at 8:09am:
and is there any effect on Improved Critical feat from it?


No.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 10th, 2019 at 8:09am:
I assume there should be no difference when it comes to IC: thrown.


Yes.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 10th, 2019 at 8:09am:
It makes this shuriken a really nice DR breaker now that I noticed it.


I carry one around, but never really use it. I have Morninglord for zombies and Purifying Quiver for blunt. Of course if you're not primarily using Spite, then slashing isn't even a concern, but it is BiS for now and will remain useful as a piercing swap even if something better comes along.
  

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Reply #457 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 7:59am
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Anyone got DPS comparison between

Pure monk
vs 14/6 monk, ranger
vs 6/6/8 ranger, rogue, monk
vs 12/8 rogue, monk

There should be enough sources to get 100% DS by now, if i think that was the sole reason to go pure monk.
  

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Reply #458 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 9:10am
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https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/511002-U44-1-20-Monk-Shuriken-Executio...

That guy claims to have amazing DCs for Executioner Shot and Consume.

Wanna know your throughts on it.
  

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Reply #459 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 9:52am
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Halfmaniac wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 7:59am:
Anyone got DPS comparison between

Pure monk
vs 14/6 monk, ranger
vs 6/6/8 ranger, rogue, monk
vs 12/8 rogue, monk


I've tried out a bunch of different splits. Monk 20 is still the way to go for now. NS Capstone is sexy, universal trees are OP.

Halfmaniac wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 7:59am:
There should be enough sources to get 100% DS by now, if i think that was the sole reason to go pure monk.


Doubleshot is not capped at 100%.

Doubleshot:
10 feat
9 EPL stance
100 10k stars (50% uptime)
12 enhancement item
7 insightful
2 guild
20 artifact
5 vistani
3 filigree
30 memento boost
=198% Doubleshot

Alex DeLarge wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 9:10am:
That guy claims to have amazing DCs for Executioner Shot and Consume. Wanna know your throughts on it.


I think that guy sacrifices way too much for DC. Wasting feats on Great Dex when you already have over 100 makes me wanna barf. My build has:

Executioner Shot:
10 base
30 character level
48 dex
6 SD Stealthy
2 SD core 5
2 quality
4 insightful
9 enhancement
3 falconry
=112 DC

...without gimping DPS. A DC of 112 works in most content.
  

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Reply #460 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 11:00am
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8/6/6 is the the higher dps burst option. Firing rates range from 4.2 to 4.6 for the 8/6/6 and the 14/6 versions, respectively. That chance to proc another star does not beat the burst that a critical multiplier and higher ranged power provide.
  

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Reply #461 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 11:00am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 9:52am:
I think that guy sacrifices way too much for DC. Wasting feats on Great Dex when you already have over 100 makes me wanna barf. My build has:

Executioner Shot:
10 base
30 character level
48 dex
6 SD Stealthy
2 SD core 5
2 quality
4 insightful
9 enhancement
3 falconry
=112 DC

...without gimping DPS. A DC of 112 works in most content.


Wood Elf better than Halfling b/c of PBS and Accuracy?
Halfling still wins due to height advantage IMHO.
  

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Reply #462 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 11:03am
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Rubbinns wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 11:00am:
8/6/6 is the the higher dps burst option. Firing rates range from 4.2 to 4.6 for the 8/6/6 and the 14/6 versions, respectively. That chance to proc another star does not beat the burst that a critical multiplier and higher ranged power provide.


8/6/6 what? 8mnk/6rng/6rog? or 6ftr?
  

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Reply #463 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 11:09am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 11:03am:
8/6/6 what? 8mnk/6rng/6rog? or 6ftr?

the one with the critical multiplier in the core ;p
  

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Reply #464 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 11:19am
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Rubbinns wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 11:09am:
the one with the critical multiplier in the core ;p


I done mixed up crit multi and crit threat in my head cannon when I was reading your reply xD
  

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Reply #465 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 5:00pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 11:00am:
8/6/6 is the the higher dps burst option. Firing rates range from 4.2 to 4.6 for the 8/6/6 and the 14/6 versions, respectively. That chance to proc another star does not beat the burst that a critical multiplier and higher ranged power provide.


Thanks, this is the answer i was looking for. I knew somehow doubleshot alone couldn't be that significant.

Rubbinns wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 11:09am:
the one with the critical multiplier in the core ;p


But.. Sniper Shot Sad
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Reply #466 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 7:07pm
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Halfmaniac wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 5:00pm:
But.. Sniper Shot

Should be able to grab both. 11 minimum in Kensei, 14 Spy, 47 DWS, 8 (7 with +1 tome) Harper. Needs halfling and 14 racial ap for critical threat range +1 to reach full potential.
  

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Reply #467 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 8:11pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 7:07pm:
Should be able to grab both. 11 minimum in Kensei, 14 Spy, 47 DWS, 8 (7 with +1 tome) Harper. Needs halfling and 14 racial ap for critical threat range +1 to reach full potential.


Ah i have not seen this split before. I had 6 rogue on my mind instead. All makes sense now.
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Reply #468 - Jan 10th, 2020 at 8:42am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 9:52am:
I think that guy sacrifices way too much for DC. Wasting feats on Great Dex when you already have over 100 makes me wanna barf. My build has:

Executioner Shot:
10 base
30 character level
48 dex
6 SD Stealthy
2 SD core 5
2 quality
4 insightful
9 enhancement
3 falconry
=112 DC

...without gimping DPS. A DC of 112 works in most content.


BTW, that guy also claimed that Deadly Instincts damage doesn't stack with INS.Deadly atm.
Is this factually correct?
  

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Reply #469 - Jan 10th, 2020 at 1:57pm
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jan 9th, 2020 at 11:00am:
Wood Elf better than Halfling b/c of PBS and Accuracy?
Halfling still wins due to height advantage IMHO.

I think so too. A better angle on ips will increase the amount of mobs you can line up. Wood elf's accuracy and PB range is solid though. If you are grazing on any number then a 1 number increase beats 3 sneak dice. Three dice amount to around 800-1000 damage across 20 attacks. And one grazing reduction amounts to around 4 or 5 more stars dealing their full front number and proc. The proc counts more for his theme of instakills anyhow, as grazing on an instakill should negate the proc.
  

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Reply #470 - Jan 10th, 2020 at 4:02pm
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Out of curiosity, how would you level this in heroick’s? Would you use it as a thrower in her Roeck’s or just ride the inquisitive train until 20 and then switch to throwing?
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Reply #471 - Jan 10th, 2020 at 8:20pm
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Elven Accuracy is awesome, but that's the only worthwhile enhancement line in the tree.  That's good if you don't like the racial PL grind, but so many racial AP go to waste if you're a racial completionist. 

NOTpopejubal wrote on Jan 10th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
Out of curiosity, how would you level this in heroick’s?

Shuri sucks donkey balls to level.  If Inquis doesn't get nerfed into oblivion for heroics, I'd go that route.   I mean, everyone already has 1-30 Inquis gear, right?

  
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Reply #472 - Jan 10th, 2020 at 8:37pm
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Carpone wrote on Jan 10th, 2020 at 8:20pm:
Elven Accuracy is awesome, but that's the only worthwhile enhancement line in the tree.  That's good if you don't like the racial PL grind, but so many racial AP go to waste if you're a racial completionist. 

Shuri sucks donkey balls to level.  If Inquis doesn't get nerfed into oblivion for heroics, I'd go that route.   I mean, everyone already has 1-30 Inquis gear, right?



Meh, i used to go the Quarterstaff route.
Just get Cleave and swap it for something else around level 13.

EDIT:
Another way to do this is play melee (handwraps, staff or w/e) or Inq, level it the way you need it as a thrower and at 30 ETR and respec it to thrower stuff.

I went 6R/ 6M/ 6F/ 2M as leveling progression. Used INQ until level 8 and switched to throwing with Snowstar for the juicy crits. The dps is ok, but very slow... i mean, at least faster than INQ imo.
Got IPS at 13 and it's buttery smooth from now on  Smiley
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Reply #473 - Jan 12th, 2020 at 11:42am
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When your DC oriented build is maxed out at 112, you know something isn't quite right.
  
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jan 10th, 2020 at 8:42am:
BTW, that guy also claimed that Deadly Instincts damage doesn't stack with INS.Deadly atm.
Is this factually correct?


No.
  
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