5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 12:13pm:


Certainly the new BAB progression for throwers and bows helps better in lower levels.
But I will never ever never ever never ever will level like that again.
The worst heroic levelling experience in my entire DDO career.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Jan 10^th, 2020 at 8:42am:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/501236-Hey-devs-ring-of-nightfall-insi...

Coco [Nov 2018]: Know the Angles stacking with other Insightful Damage bonuses is known and, at this moment, is classified as not working as intended. I do not have an eta on any change to this. Essentially, enjoy the erroneous buff knowing that it could be changed in the future.

Fair, fair. Nice.

harharharhar wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 5:30pm:


Doesn't smell right. I'm not sure exactly what build he's referring to, but Monk gets a crit multi too and more range. RP should not be significantly higher. If "burst" = running in Fury ED, then its RP should be lower.

Nubbinns has not posted a build, so I will assume this is Schrödinger's thrower.

Rubbinns wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 6:10pm:


Everything that's old is new again:

8/6/6 build
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/463636-Some-New-Thrower-Builds

Rubbinns wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 6:10pm:


I'm following.

You claimed 8/6/6 is the highest DPS because of the crit profile, the doubleshot, and the ranged power.

I pointed out that that doesn't seem to make sense since pure monk gets even more doubleshot (because more monk levels, very close to 6 stars) and an even better crit profile (+2 range, +1 multi in NS vs +1 range in DWS, +1 muilti in kensei), and ranged power should be about the same.

But since I couldn't be sure since you didn't actually post a build, I attempted to tease more information out of you.

Sound right?

Guys you're never going to believe this....but I think the brand new class just released might be really strong...shocker right?  Seems like the standing dps should be similar to, or slightly higher than a Shuri thrower as what you lose in a little average double shot and sneak attack is made up for by the poison imbues (irresistible) and higher base weapon damage. However, peak dmg should be higher with 5.83 attacks per animation versus the monk with 4.3 with 10k stars up.

Here are some of my early notes from a Alchemist/Vistani knife thrower:

Doubleshot
87- feats/enhancements/guild buffs (est)
6- Whirling wrists
110- Int (est)
20- Rapid throw
223- Standing dblshot

30- action boost
30- reaper action boost
100- Multitude of Missles
100- Whirling Blades
483- Peak dblshot


Acid dmg-
8d12=      52 avg
800      Poison spell power (est)
468-      Poison dmg per dagger
*1.15- mod (Envenom the heart tier 4 alch enhancement)
538- poison dmg per dagger

PRR bonuses-
33-      Vile Chemist Bonuses
40-      Orchidium (purple) Stance
22-      Vistani up to Rank 5
7-        Augment armor spell
102-   Perma prr bonuses

70-      Switching to purple (12 seconds)
30-      Vistani Mist Stalker V

202-      Peak prr bonuses


Misc bonuses-

Multiple AoE Helpless spells, based on int, which you max
dr 30 stoneskin (goldskin)
(2)w- bonus to all thrower knives
50% up time 50% speed boost (speed boost spell)
100% uptime invisibility and displacement (Smoke Bomb spell)
Heartseeker Poison Imbue: temporary weapon enchantment, on hit: -1 Fort saves, 5 stacks, on crit: 1d6 Con damage, on vorpal: 1 stack of vuln
Defensive roll with 100% chance of negating half damage when below 20% hp
48 max dex bonus/dodge in light armor (thus 100 base mrr cap), 68 dex bonus/dodge while Mist Stalker V active

Ulysses wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 1:21pm:

Before the MoM nerf yesterday, it rivaled pre-nerf inquisitive in sustained dps and bursts. Now it's comparable to a shuri thrower, but with 350 prr in reaper, higher mrr cap, and a heal spell. I was getting 14 or so seconds before MoM got nerfed of 20 dshot and 60 rp.

Now I am hovering around 24 in LD. The tests used bound + hymn, and only a deadly rain swap ( didnt bother uncanny swapping ), and dust + vacuum + shattered device for debuffing.

The Fatesinger and Fury times are still good. More of a burst build now than a sustained.


5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 2:15pm:

I'm sure once a good player picks up the build that you will let us know.

Ulysses wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 4:18pm:

I tested 18/1 barb/1 rogue. Int based.  And 11 rogue/ 6 alch/ 3 wiz. Int to damage and Dex to dshot. Both had similar times. Making the 18 a better overall build for me. Both tier 5 VKF and the Capstone, plus Harper for KtA. Level 18 core in Alchemist for the 18 x/x split. Undead zombie and assassin tree for the rogue zombie split.

The prr boost is insane. Spell point action boosts are funny. The animation eats into at least 3 seconds of the boost before I can start dpsing again. The heal jar is a bit slower than it was last lama, but worth it since it's a heal spell.

The Blender v6.1

Race: Halfling
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Class: 20 Monk

Stats:......... (36 pt build)
Strength............6
Dexterity...........20 (+ level ups)
Constitution........16
Intelligence.........8
Wisdom.............16
Charisma............8
(tomes recommended)

Feat Progression:
Level 1   : Point Blank Shot
Level 1(M):Shuriken Expertise
Level 2(M): Precision
Level 3   : Precise Shot
Level 6   : Rapid Shot
Level 6(M):10K Stars
Level 9   : Completionist
Level 12 : Improved Critical
Level 15 : Improved Precise Shot
Level 18 : Weapon Focus Thrown
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : WF Ranged
Level 26 : Pierce Silver
Level 27 : Blinding Speed
Level 28 : Doubleshot
Level 29 : Elusive Target
Level 30 : Epic DR
Level 30 : Scion of the Astral Plane
(if not completionist add Great Dexterity)

Skills:
(assumes +6 or better Int tome)
Concentration 23
Diplomacy 23
Heal 1
Hide 23
Move Silently 23
Spot 23
Tumble 1
UMD 11

Enhancements: 95 AP

Ninja: 41 AP
Core 6/6
Sneak Attack Training 4/4 (8 pts)
Ninjutsu 4/4 (4 pts)
Stealthy 3/3
Action Boost Power 3/3
Agility 3/3
Sting of the Ninja (2 pts)
+1 DEX
No Mercy 3/3 (6 pts)
Deadly Striker (2 pts)
Crippling Strike (2 pts)

Racial: 16 AP
Cores 4/5 (6 AP)
Cunning 1/3
Acrobatic 3/3
Nimble Reaction 3/3
Guile 3/3

Falconry: 27 AP
Cores 3/6 (4 AP)
Rugged 3/3
Out in Nature 3/3
Sprint Boost 3/3
Watch the Center 3/3
Conditioning (2 AP)
1/3 Go for the Eyes
1/3 Diving Attack
Deadly Instinct 3/3
No Mercy 3/3
Expose Weakness

Vistani: 11 AP
Core 3/6
Undead Hunter
Mist Stalker I-II (4 pts)
Acrobatic 2/3
Haste Boost 1/3


Epic Destiny: Shadowdancer
Stealthy 3/3
Dex +1

Lithe 1/3
Dex +1

Meld 3/3
Dex +1

Improved Invis 3/3

Untouchable
Executioner Shot 3/3

Shadow Form
Dark Imbuement
Consume

Twists: 4/3/2/1/1
Sense Weakness
Whirling Wrists
Pin (Swap for Energy Sheath when needed)
Rejuvenation Cocoon
Enlightenment

Gear:
Helm of the Final Watcher Raid Helmet: Seeker +21, Q Deadly +6, Accuracy +34, Insightful Doubleshot +7%
Doctor LeRoux's Curious Implant Necklace Minor Artifact: Insightful Wisdom +10, Equipped Healing Amplification +47, Exceptional Healing Amplification +24, Quality Physical Sheltering +14, Empty Blue Augment Slot Icon, Empty Green Augment Slot, Empty Yellow Augment Slot Icon
Echo of Ravenkind (Trinket) Eternal Holy Burst, True Seeing, Constitution +20, Improved Deception, Yellow Slot, Green Slot, Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary)
Legendary Cloak of Balance Cloak: Nearly Finished (Quality Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution +5), Freedom of Movement, Insightful Seeker 10, Parrying +10, Empty Green Augment Slot
Legendary Silverthread Belt (Belt): Enhanced Devotion +202, Enhanced Nullification +202, Healing Lore +29, Void Lore +29, Blue Augment Slot
Ring of the Silver Tongue Ring: Improved Deception, Insightful Deception Att/Dmg, Assassinate, Insightful Assassinate, Empty Green Augment Slot, Empty Blue Augment Slot
Wildwood Gauntlets Gloves: Blurry/Lesser Displacement, Dodge +8%/+21%, Natural Armor +8/+21, Distant Diversion +12%/+33%
Slaver Boots: Sheltering/Resistance/Tendon Slice/Quality Wis
Legendary Perfect Pinnacle (Ring): Greater Reinforced Fists, Deadly +16, Stunning +22, Soul of the Elements (Beyond the Soul of Tide), Yellow Augment Slot, Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary) (SWAP: Ring of Prowess for redname DPS)
Wildwood Wrists Bracers: Nearly Finished (Wis +21), Doubleshot 13%, Insightful Deception +9, Quality Deception +4, 2 augment slots
Collective Sight Goggles: Nearly Finished (DEX +5/21), Almost There (INSIGHT DEX +3/10), Quality Resistance +1/+4 (SWAP: Negotiator Specs for aggro management)
Wildwood Outfit : Fortification +214%, Physical Sheltering +54, Healing Amplification +85, False Life +81
Epic Purifying Quiver (Quiver): Blunt Ammo
Complete Thunderforged Kama (150 Devotion, 35% Armor Piercing, Draconic Reinvigoration)
(SWAP: Rebellion (-25% threat, Sneak Attack +5, Improved Deception, Armor Piercing 20%, red slot w/ devotion slotted, adds implement bonus))
Spite, the Fractured Shards (Shuriken) 7[1d2+3]+15, 19-20/x2, Glass Shards, Keen V, Sovereign Disruption, Hemorrhaging, Returning, Purple Slot, Red Slot)

Sharn Wallwatch Set
+3 Sneak Dice
+25% Fortification Bypass
+20% Doubleshot
+20 Ranged Power

11 filigree Sentient set: Nystul's/Shattered/Spines
Nystul's Mystical Defense
2 Pieces: +5 Magical Resistance Rating
3 Pieces: +1 to all saving throws.
4 Pieces: +100 Hit Points
5 Pieces: Your Max MRR Cap is increased by 40.
Nystul's Mystical Defense: +1 Constitution      +2 PRR
Nystul's Mystical Defense: Fire Absorption      +5% Fire Absorption      +2 MRR
Nystul's Mystical Defense: Electric Absorption      +5% Electrical Absorption      +2 MRR
Nystul's Mystical Defense: Cold Absorption      +5% Cold Absorption      +2 MRR
Nystul's Mystical Defense: Acid Absorption      +5% Acid Absorption      +2 MRR

Shattered Device Filigree Set Rare Set!
When 2 pieces are equipped: +3 to Attack and Damage with weapons
When 3 pieces are equipped: +3% Doublestrike and Doubleshot
When 4 pieces are equipped: Your Melee and Ranged attacks have a chance to reduce enemy PRR and MRR by 10 for 10 seconds
Attack and Damage +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 PRR
Fortification Bypass +5% -~- Rare Version: & +2 PRR
Physical Resistance Rating +3 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
Ranged Power +3 -~- Rare Version: & +2 Ranged Power

Spines of the Manticore
2 Pieces: +2 Damage
Spines of the Manticore: Ranged Power      +3 Ranged Power      +2 Ranged Power
Spines of the Manticore/The Wreath of Flame  +10 Ranged Power


Augments: 20
Draconic Soul Gem
Globe of Imperial Blood
The Master's Gift
Golem's Heart
Protection 8
Good Luck 2
Blindness Immunity
Fear Immunity
Poison "immunity"
Disease "immunity"
Concentration 15
Heal 15
Spot 15
Hide 15
Move Silently 15
Spooky WIS 2
Deathblock

Reds:
Spite/Arc - Deconstructor, Chaos
TF - Meridian Fragment
Rebellion - Devotion 114 (Adds Implement bonus)

Halfmaniac wrote on Apr 25^th, 2020 at 4:13pm:



11mnk/6rng/3wiz = Zombie Shuri


But Dex Dagger Zombies are sooooo much better now. Rival pre-nerf Inquisitives with 25 AF stacks on bosses.

Halfmaniac wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 4:31am:


Yes that’s the point zombies can hit the animation cap