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Build request: few past life shuriken build
Jul 14th, 2018 at 9:55pm
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I have little to no past lives on one of my toons, and I'm looking for a Max dps shuriken build. I know it won't be best until I get more past lives but I'd like to get a build going. It needs to be able to dish out damage at cap and maybe take a hit or two, not really worried about that though. I'm just looking for a shuriken build to stay at cap with. I'm not apposed to multiclassing.
  
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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #1 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 10:16pm
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20 monk, Fury, no completionest anything 100 Dex. grab spite. 13.2 seconds on Boss Kobold.
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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #2 - Jul 14th, 2018 at 10:42pm
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So, when Lama was up, I tried out a no life shuri, and wasn't getting anywhere close to that.  No doubt because I don't know how to play them. 

I wouldn't mind a bit more detail on this one, too.  AP breakdown, and what rotations you're using to get the time down that low?   

And how are you getting up to 100 dex on a new toon?

Dexterity:
20 base
8 tome
7 level
20 gear
9 insight
4 quality
1 exceptional
2 profane
2 racial ap (assuming you can fit this in)
2 Harper ap
2 Ninja Spy ap
2 Ninja Spy capstone
2 Filigrees
4 tensors
= 89 dex w/ max buffs.   

What am I forgetting?

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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #3 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 12:57am
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+2 guild?
+2 yugo pot
+2 rem pot
6 Dex filigree
+2 artifact 5 piece slavers
+2 more in harper total of 4
+1 Reaper tree
+2 Reaper Helm

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No, you will not reach this time on 1st lifer. It's a great base to start with.
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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #4 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 1:56am
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Jakabya wrote on Jul 14th, 2018 at 9:55pm:
I have little to no past lives on one of my toons, and I'm looking for a Max dps shuriken build.


Dex wrote on Jul 15th, 2018 at 12:57am:
No, you will not reach this time on 1st lifer.


If we're going to throw out the no past lives starting point, could probably just point to one of the other shuri builds already out there.
  
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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #5 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 2:05am
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Jakabya wrote on Jul 14th, 2018 at 9:55pm:
I know it won't be best until I get more past lives but I'd like to get a build going


all you really need is 1 rogue past life.
  
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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #6 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 5:03am
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14 monk/6 ranger Halfling Fury - hands down

I'd probably do 8 rogue/6 ranger/6 monk with vistani scourge to get the 1 rogue pl if you don't have it though. (would not keep at cap)

Anyways, you don't want to go pure 20 monk and fury. Losing active attacks from ranger and dws T5 is like a kick to the nuts.

If you really want to go pure 20 monk, go LD its better in that situation though it still sucks balls compared to 14/6 fury.

  
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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #7 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 7:47am
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What are the benefits of multiclassing with a shuriken build?
  
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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #8 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 8:46am
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Jakabya wrote on Jul 15th, 2018 at 7:47am:
What are the benefits of multiclassing with a shuriken build?


Free ranged feats and access to trees.
  

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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #9 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 9:17am
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Ok so just throwing ideas around but what about a 12 monk 6 ranger 2 fighter split or a 12 monk 6 ranger 2 rogue split? Would that do anything for trash dps? I've tried builds with fury and I'm not a huge fan so I'm looking for somethig to stay probably in LD or maybe sharadi
  
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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #10 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 2:09pm
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Read through the multiple long shuriken threads. All of the arguing will show you differences in the builds. Just keep in mind as you from the beginning that some of the information has changed from what you read.
  
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Reply #11 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 4:41pm
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yea, don't go 20 monk and fury  Roll Eyes
mean while 20 monk in LD was like 33 second boss kill vs 13-17 in Fury. I want to hear some 10 second boss kill to make 14/6 "hands down" Roll Eyes
  
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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #12 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 6:05pm
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Jakabya wrote on Jul 15th, 2018 at 9:17am:
Ok so just throwing ideas around but what about a 12 monk 6 ranger 2 fighter split or a 12 monk 6 ranger 2 rogue split? Would that do anything for trash dps? I've tried builds with fury and I'm not a huge fan so I'm looking for somethig to stay probably in LD or maybe sharadi


I'd almost certainly still go 14 monk / 6 ranger.

I had the 2 fighter split back when AA stuff worked with them, but the loss of bows and need to go helf, means you are far better off going 14 monk / 6 ranger over the 12 monk / 6 ranger / X splits. The only caveat is if you need trapping skills than go 13 monk / 6 ranger / 1 rogue.

I would absolutely, 100% not go shiradi though. It is SUPER SUPER SUPER weak.
  
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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #13 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 6:09pm
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Dex wrote on Jul 15th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
yea, don't go 20 monk and fury  Roll Eyes
mean while 20 monk in LD was like 33 second boss kill vs 13-17 in Fury. I want to hear some 10 second boss kill to make 14/6 "hands down" Roll Eyes

Kobold Boss Beatdowns are less interesting on shuriken builds because their dps potential is measured strictly via their burst.

What is far more interesting is an r10 bruntsmash beatdown. 20 monk in LD will very nearly beat 20 monk in Fury during this test. Additionally without the sniper shot + adrenaline combo, Fury loses a LOT of their sustained burst potential.

14/6 Fury > 14/6 LD > 20 LD > 20 Fury.

You need to look no further than what ALL the top players in the top guilds are running for their throwers - hint its 14/6 Fury.
  
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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #14 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 6:55pm
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tinkerer wrote on Jul 15th, 2018 at 6:05pm:
The only caveat is if you need trapping skills than go 13 monk / 6 ranger / 1 rogue.

probably just should if you're not in a guild with people filling roles all around the party. and makes leveling easier and faster. you can level as a tempest until you hit 20. Grab sswords or daggers, use vfk tree or ninja spy, and rely on free improved 2wf and use 10k and manyshot as ranged bursts.

  

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Re: Build request: few past life shuriken build
Reply #15 - Jul 15th, 2018 at 7:23pm
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tinkerer wrote on Jul 15th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
What is far more interesting is an r10 bruntsmash beatdown. 20 monk in LD will very nearly beat 20 monk in Fury during this test.


I can agree with this, just tested it and 2:28Fury vs 2:32 LD.
Though being able to stand still might be a different story.
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