Warning:  I'm sure I'm about to say something stupid. 

So... what about a barbarian crossbow build?

I don't know if Occult Slayer bond procs every single attack or has a limit (never played a barb), so this is theory, assuming it procs every hit.  With a repeating crossbow, and endless fusillade, it only takes about 70 seconds to build up 100 hits.

Take at least 6 lvls barb, 4 lvls arti, 10 lvls whatever (For Aasimar, at least 4 Rng for ranged feats)

Occult Slayer T5
34 ap gets you T5 Metalline (+1/+1 crits), and Bond (+1 multi on 19-20)

Battle Engineer T4
27 ap to get endless fusilade & agility

Run in legendary dreadnaught. 

Grab a great crossbow, with 95% uptime on endless fusilade, with a crit profile of 14-18/x3, 19-20/x6

At lvl 29, grab Volley or purifying quiver for 13-18/x3, 19-20/x6.

Great Crossbow 18-20/x2
15-20/x2 with IC
14-20/x3 with barb OS T5 metalline
14-18/x3, 19-20/x4 with OC
14-18/x3, 19-20/x5with LD devastating critical
14-18/x3, 19-20/x6 with barb OS T5 bond
13-18/x3, 19-20/x6 with Volley or Epic Purifying Quiver at lvl 29 with LD Pulverizer.

You have enough AP to play with to pick up more DPS, or just for S&G, go falconry, and get wis to hit/dmg.  One stat killing machine.
Something like this:

Enhancements (79+1 of 80+1 AP)

Occult Slayer (34 AP)

• Weapon Bond, Resistance, Elemental Defense
• Parrying Bond III, Uncanny Dodger III, Awareness III
• Guarding Bond III, Antimagic Boost III
• Bond of Retribution, Arcane Encumberance III, Wisdom
• Driving Force III, Wisdom
• Bond of Destruction, Occult Metalline

Battle Engineer (27 AP)

• Battle Engineer, Infused Weapons
• Crossbow Training, Field Engineer III, Thaumaturgical Conduits III
• Crossbow Training, Extra Action Boost III
• Crossbow Training
• Crossbow Training, Endless Fusilade, Agility Engine III

Falconry (16 AP)

• Falcon
• Practiced Accuracy II, Out in Nature III
• Killer Instinct I, Diving Shot III, Meticulous Fletching III
• Killer Instinct II

Aasimar Scourge (3 AP)

• Stronger Bonds
• Improved Recovery

I've done 5 iconic lives of the latter since the toon has balizardes. If you have drow weapons it's almost as good though.

Dance of death is very good for epic leveling imo. The build covers pdk, shadar-kai, and scourge.

Rzyman wrote on Aug 21^st, 2018 at 8:47pm:


Sounds retarded all right, but gear has nothing to do with it.

imanoob wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2018 at 6:13am:


I dont get all the sarcasm, guy wanned ideas, I give some :b Of corse this "tank" wont be able to do higher skulls and in endgame terms its pure gimp. Yet if you able to cover 3 stats: str cha and con you'll have fat meatshield with good saves medicore noob dps (thw ofc), good intimidate, loh, spammable bonus hp and free metalline and ghost touch. For epics you even will have divine might. Dam, I can show you iconic soloing lod with this stupid build on elite as soon as servers up on any server :-D

TractorsareEpic wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2018 at 6:55am:

Ouch. Lol, I'm an idiot :-D Never been big in PnP though :-D made same mistake when did my druid life. Than fighter, obviosly. Same prr and mrr buff from stalwart yet no loh and free cleave.

5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2018 at 10:25am:


If you just want quick PLs, I'm not sure 18 rogue is the way to go.  Sure, it's great for staying at cap, but if you just want to clear dailies/quests as quick as possible, nothing beats 4 arti/10-16 rogue.  T5 mech/T4 BE for endless fusillade.  With all the extra AB + LD, I can run EF for 4 min solid between shrines.  As fast as you can run through quests, things die in front of you.  I usually lead the kill count 10:1 on any non-raid quest. 

For comparison, my wife runs an 18/2 rogue/arti, with BiS gear.  In baba/strahd, she's better, sure.  But in dailies or TR xp quests, I usually out kill her 8:1, and that's without a Volley on that guy. 

5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2018 at 12:20pm:

I would agree.  I ran an 18/2 rogue/artie PL not too long ago and never saw a single x/4 artie EF build that came close.  Some of those 4 artie builds were run by players known to generally be skilled, too. 

The EF builds may have an edge on bosses, but in trash clearing, no.  Even on red-named, I'm not sure EF builds are better.  The level 18 mech core is pretty strong.

With Blitz charged, at level 30, the 18/2 mech's average damage per bolt was >2k in LE with Volley.  That's on a toon with few PLs, too.  That base damage coupled with a great crit profile, lots of ranged power and plenty of haste and ranged power action boosts is really solid, consistent DPS at all times.

This should be interesting to try the next time lama comes up. From previous tests conducted by a friend. He had fusilade 10r/6f/4a come out at 30 seconds on a lgs great xbow vacuum. Before ravenloft, after arty/fusilade update. And on a character with all relevant dps lives, with highly proficient use of rotations, in LD. KtA was ahead of the core 3 kensei crit multiplier by 5 seconds (35 for kensei over kta).

Volley is an insane upgrade just by itself, and then add filigrees and a silent avenger set. Should be sub 20 times on a fusilade now if deadly rain procs. 

QuantumFX wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2018 at 6:23pm:

Leveling up probably. Lacking of cc and aoe damage. I guess op just want rush pastifes, not to build endgame dps

QuantumFX wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2018 at 6:23pm:


Forgot about that one, lol. I wonder if I can fit some Falconry into it.

wolff wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2018 at 7:58pm:


Let's see, you'll want at least
38 in Mech
23 in Assassin
23 in BE
11 in DWS
11 in racial
8 in Harper
I think that build needs like 115 AP.

wolff wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 11:07pm:


Its not about best crit ingame. You're missing the fact he wont get any crit multiplier but LD t5 and epic feat lvl 21 on 19-20. As I said, still may be worth for repeaters, with stacked blitz and EF you mostly able to kill anything you see in those 18 seconds. And for gxbow its not worth to loose this crit profile. You are not always running with EF (it has cooldown and number of uses), so outside EF you loose your dps dramatically (gxbows about sneaks and crits). 6ftr will work for gxbows, 6 rgr wont.

And what difficulty are you showing in screenshots? Pretty sure its EH or EN. On those any non-shitty ranged will win the race on lower epics - archer, thrower or xbow shooter. They can even win over instakillers, cause everything dying faster than mages come in range to spellcast

Rzyman wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 10:24am:


wolff wrote on Aug 21^st, 2018 at 1:30am:


You were saying?

Rzyman wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 10:24am:


wolff wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2018 at 11:37am:


So yes, yes he actually would be running 95% uptime in EF.

Rzyman wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 10:24am:


Yep, because that is the fastest xp/min for the first 1.5 hours when you login from 20-30.  Past that, I usually only run R1 for the xp bonus.  I ran the entire ES chain on R1 22-24, and yeah, got the top kills in every quest.  Again, man, I've said this like 5 times now.  If you want a top build to run R5 with, go find a different build.  If you want to get to cap & TR as quick as possible, this is your build. 

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 10:38am:


Found a similar test.  This is last lamma, 10/6/4 build, but with 0 ap in any fighter trees, so no kensei crits.  Also, no pulverizer from LD.  This is literally the worst crit profile I tested, as it's only 15-20/x2 (19-20/x4).  Basically IC only. I also flubbed the swap, and cost an extra 1 second EF downtime.  One heroic PL - rogue.  3 EPLs - only 1 doubleshot PL.  Volley, but with 0 filigrees in it.

It has the mech SA dmg, so not a perfect 1:1.  With the barb, you'd pick up a much better crit profile to offset some of that.  Next time lamma is up, I'll definitely test this crazy build and see what it looks like.  I guess on live, I could ditch imp. deception and see what DPS looks like for an analog?

AP setup:   https://youtu.be/BnRRwimpX70 **
DPS test:  https://youtu.be/Rre1rX5v5g8 **

The advantage on live is I hit those numbers while running.  The melees never touch anything because it's dead before they get there.  That's why I prefer this over melee or caster for quick/easy EPLs.

I apologize for the extremely crappy sound quality.  These were never meant to be posted.

**see post below.