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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5949 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Does sneak attack damage scale with helpless, etc? Reply #25 - Apr 24^th, 2019 at 12:51am	Print Post
	Afunkymunky wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2019 at 9:36pm: The test you performed for that google doc was flawed. After reading that post Anointed tested this issue himself and found that SA actually is affected by all debuffs.� The reason that so many people believe it isn't is because they have no idea where to look for the damage increase. It was not flawed but TY. Were you looking at the wrong page? I know that thing is a messy shitshow by now.
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yardarm_ Toothless Molehunter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 295 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2015	Re: Does sneak attack damage scale with helpless, etc? Reply #26 - Apr 24^th, 2019 at 4:39am	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Apr 24^th, 2019 at 12:51am: It was not flawed but TY. Were you looking at the wrong page? I know that thing is a messy shitshow by now. stfu dumbass don't pretend to be smart after saying it only scales with mp and nothing else when it actually scales with almost anything�retard
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Afunkymunky Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2018	Re: Does sneak attack damage scale with helpless, etc? Reply #27 - Apr 24^th, 2019 at 12:08pm	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Apr 24^th, 2019 at 12:51am: It was not flawed but TY. Were you looking at the wrong page? I know that thing is a messy shitshow by now. I was just recalling when this topic first came up a few months ago, and you linked a google doc showing that SA did not scale with debuffs.� However in that post you only looked at the SA number, which is flawed since that�s not where the increase is added. Here�s a very simple test you can do to show how it is added to the front number. 1.� Attack the magefire canon and stack up one of the debuffs. 2.� Hit the canon with assassin�s trick, and watch your front number skyrocket. Since assassin�s trick only removes the SA immunity it shouldn�t increase your front number.� However it does increase the front number and this is due the the extra SA damage from the debuff; it�s being added to the front number.
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yardarm_ Toothless Molehunter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 295 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2015	Re: Does sneak attack damage scale with helpless, etc? Reply #28 - Apr 24^th, 2019 at 12:23pm	Print Post
	Afunkymunky wrote on Apr 24^th, 2019 at 12:08pm: I was just recalling when this topic first came up a few months ago, and you linked a google doc showing that SA did not scale with debuffs.� However in that post you only looked at the SA number, which is flawed since that�s not where the increase is added. Here�s a very simple test you can do to show how it is added to the front number. 1.� Attack the magefire canon and stack up one of the debuffs. 2.� Hit the canon with assassin�s trick, and watch your front number skyrocket. Since assassin�s trick only removes the SA immunity it shouldn�t increase your front number.� However it does increase the front number and this is due the the extra SA damage from the debuff; it�s being added to the front number. ignore him he is retarded and also a liar


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Does sneak attack damage scale with helpless, etc? Reply #29 - Apr 26^th, 2019 at 2:36pm	Print Post
	Vaultrunner wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2019 at 9:39pm: Also does that somehow bypass 'First shot to allways miss' Ranged crosshair issue that was never fixed and continiued throughout years. Since my return after long years of break, I experienced the same issue at Mechanic crossbow and Deepwood stalker bow builds to say the least. Try clicking instead of holding down the button. ... BTW: 5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 2:34am: I took another look at this build to reinvestigate the issue. After a fresh ER, I went out and punched some stuff for ~50 base damage and ~100 SA damage. After stunning this went to ~200 base and ~100 SA (Non-crit. Stunned crit was 5-600). I had No Mercy and Sense Weakness on for +110% helpless damage, but theres no way that quadruples the base damage. I suspect that the nerf didn't happen, the game just started graphically adding the extra SA damage to the base number for some reason. (The combat log does not distinguish, it reports the sum of base +SA as one line.)
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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Does sneak attack damage scale with helpless, etc? Reply #30 - Apr 29^th, 2019 at 2:16pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 2:36pm: Try clicking instead of holding down the button. Press the space bar if you are drowning.

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