Do Frenzy and Death Frenzy apply to ranged attacks ?

5 Foot Step wrote on Apr 12^th, 2015 at 6:50am:


BTW, using warhammers in LD is dumb. I can swap destiny with right now and have higher DPS than Redsonja with my picks. How? Because picks alone get the same critical damage as warhammer w/ pulverizer, except picks don't have to waste those 2 points. 17-20x4 = 15-20x3

So the only real question is which ED to be in. True, LD will beat DC in the cabal test, but this is accomplished by trading 1000s of trash DPS for maybe 100 red name DPS. I guarantee that my build can beat any speedrun time that she posts. (But I seriously doubt she will post any, of course.)

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Was WAI before the enhancement pass. I'd say it's the description they need to fix.

Lelouch wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 6:03am:


Umm, no. It's the same. Just a swap to hammers and LD. If I ever get around to updating mine, you'll see that I've already dropped Hvy armor and power critical for extra Weapon Foci, so the feats are the same, except that she wastes feats on an extra imp crit and elusive target. I've got Celestias and Imp Crit Pierce for MoD too BTW. I admit that that build has an edge in pure single target redname DPS. Mine is better for everything else.

Don't get me wrong, that build is great, but the game is more than just Garunt Bruntsmash.

Red Sox H8 Yankees wrote on Apr 13^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:


My point was that picks are better for both destinies. Admittedly, the line is very close in LD.

You only get 10 prr when med armor, the melle power is not bound to armor type.
Drop harmor btw since new sets will make you drop shadow armors anyways.

Also best option atm is fire touch, dragon edge, third degree burns + fire pick /hammer whatever your preferd weapon is. (can someone verify this?)
Since first degree doesnt work with elemental debuff

med armor might be better now if you have enough prr where the extra dodge increase is more than the loss of that 10prr.

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and some mrr. The shadow guardian gets replaced with toee set bonus and fully upgraded items give +22-24 melee, ranged and universal spell power.

Rubbinns wrote on Apr 20^th, 2015 at 1:03am:

No, you get more than 10. Don't forget about heavy armor proficiency. Nothing is going to beat shadow guardian. You will feel the difference, once you put it down. Also who in his fucking mind would lay down both thunderforged and shadow guardian for this trash ?

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I have droped shadow guardian with ease for set bonus and a focus feat which gives me way more dps.
Honestly, not doing that makes you odd and weird as you totally dont need shadow guardian nor 2 thforged.
For maximizing dps at least.
They hit kinda hard in temple, but nothing you cant survive while zerging on ee in red alert as med armored barb, the set is to good not to get for 2 weapon fight barbs.
For 2 handed, its junk

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The set bonus works, the mythic upgrade doesnt, if you think im gay for wanting 20 melle power for capstone proc/frenzy scaling and general dps. Then yea i have no problem with being gay, if you add thath to list im gay, pedophile, into animal sex, tentacle sex and necrophilism a bit as well

Srsly, craft it first test it then come talk with me how you wont drop 2 thforged when you see how much damage capstone procs, personally i made 2 pairs of hammers upgraded alrdy and making a fire pick next for crusader dps and wont argue anymore.
Im suggesting to use set, if you dont want then dont, its rather simple.
Its superb for 2 weapon users, every other style got the short stick in this update tho esp swf who will fall so much behind 2 weapon fighters now¸, tho bow might be ok for furyshot dunno havent tested it yet.


Would argue also that manyshot/druid barbs are good before set, but now as the capstone scales for stupid damage procs, pure barb is king again.
Yes, because of simple 2 items, it beats down kta/dm ploit easily

Screenie of regular proc of capstone with melle power action boost/set and blitz:

IT can go up higher tho when i stack weaken higher/slaughter procs (main reason i prefer hammers tbh since better crit range), was fishing for capstone proc so disregard the no frenzy n buffs n shit since i had my fingers on pscreen heh

Lelouch wrote on Apr 20^th, 2015 at 4:47am:

Having manyshot, kta and ear smash is a good enough trade off. I don't like being able to just do "one" thing and start piking when it becomes a ranged game. Druid ? Why ? Just splash 1 ranger and fighter for 4 free feats without having to use a heart +1 at character creation.