Munkenmo wrote on Mar 25^th, 2015 at 9:04am:


Il be very honest, only reason i didnt push with repetear ideas is due to reload animation being terrible and messing up your slaying shots, in practice in ee runs you will end up missing many, so even tho it has impressive boss dps on static nonmoving targets, it caused you to mess up alot in practice due to the possible mess in ees, aka red alert oranger or many mobs spawn quests etc etc.

But with the change to mehanics of reload, and possible nerf to monkchers only thing they are doing is deleting monkchers and making repeteater builds de facto nm 1.
I mean, even dshoot is currently somewhat bugged when i look at peoples tests.
It doesnt seem you get 1/3rd less for every next barrage, but i mean even if you do, with a killer focused build you can reach 40/50% dshoot.
Lets go with lowest ammount, killer 20% shipie 2% quiver 8% past life 9% ep feat 10% that is 49% dshoot, you can go up to 69% if you go for aa last core perma dshoot without ever losing it on a aa focused artie build.
Now that is 4 bolts per every barrage, its like perma manyshot, also ability to fire 5th and 6th bolt occasionaly.
Also you can play in dcrusader and raise that chance above 100% firing during the buff 6/7 bolts.
I mean im not a brainiac, and doesnt take me long to figure out how broken that will be compared to current monkchers.
Also the facts that you can drop monk etc and are straight forward with build options.
Opens up ability to do a 14 palie 6 whatever gives best benefit elf for example or sun elf as prolly best choice.

I mean, im all cool with playing something like that, but it just sounds silly to me compared to monkchers.
You basically just need ranger levels/elfish race and a xbow, even tilos build might be great now.
Int based pure ranger with repeteater..
Sigh..
Also you can abuse the stuff from barb, since barbs crit rage works and aplies its crit increase after feat for ranged, you can basically build a repeteater burst or sustained dps beast.
I mean cmon, a barb repteater build will be viable, doesnt that like sound stupid?

All they will do with this is, kill monkchers and create something more powerful then monkchers were, putting many players who farmed for th bows into grief due to need to swap to xbows

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Well, they keep saying that they want the game to feel more like P&P....

FM wrote on Mar 25^th, 2015 at 1:51am:

Is SWF still shitting on thrown attack speeds? I guess for ranged CDG only then back to melee it wouldn't matter.

Munkenmo wrote on Mar 25^th, 2015 at 9:04am:

I hear ya. I think I agree. Sev, in particular, is so focused on monk hate that he's about to create another monk.

I'm considering swapping Minos for Dragon masque, and Backstabber for Gages though.

I'd have to slot fortification, vitality, sheltering. I'd lose +4 SA, 50 fortification, 25 vitality, 7 PRR, but gain 2d6 light, 2d6 negative, 2 insight SA, +5 UMD, 1 deadly,

I know thrower builds...

Check out my build!

Lelouch wrote on Mar 25^th, 2015 at 9:13am:

yes! and blood str will proc on your bolts for extra lulz!

FM wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 12:31am:


I always had a special place in my heart for it. It was a great build. No question that thread influenced my rogue heavy version of my builds

def too early to tell, as well me not having logged in for 6 months.

i have re-downloaded the client though, so you never know.

The tinker-hell really was ridiculously fun. If you like thrower builds you should try it.

Munkenmo wrote on Mar 25^th, 2015 at 11:05am:



Dude, Sev's level of monk-hate hardly even registers.  Look at the absolute ass-fucking he just gave Assassins, he actually found ways to make them suck more while supposedly doing a improvement pass.

Monks have had a amazing run, and will continue to do so, What you see as monk-hate is only a shadow of the kind of crap rangers, artys, and Horcs have lived with for the past few years.

Don't get me wrong, it sucks, but if having FoTW moderately nerfed is the worse thing happening to your uppper end you doing alright. 

And correct me if I'm wrong you are on the PC right? well use that to do something, you have access to Turby and the Devs that none of us do.

Munkenmo wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:


It would be best if they just came out and said we don't want to do "x" and we are not.  Then everyone could just moving on without talking about "x" anymore.

Instead they let discussion run rampant over things that simply aren't changing.

Munkenmo wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

Mournlands in all but name.