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Doggydaddy Titan Demolisher Offline Pull my Finger...... Posts: 324 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	Re: Warlocks! Reply #75 - May 17^th, 2015 at 4:25am	Print Post
	The only issue I have with this, is now everyone using Completionist will HAVE to use this, but most of us simply have too much crap in both our BTC Locker and our TR Cache to do so. I have no intention of throwing out a ton of stuff I worked so hard to get while I spent 2 years getting Competitionist for my main. Guess I gotta figure out what Feat I want to use instead....


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Barkabout Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1032 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2013	Re: Warlocks! Reply #76 - May 17^th, 2015 at 5:12am	Print Post



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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Warlocks! Reply #77 - May 17^th, 2015 at 5:34am	Print Post
	qweeve wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 1:11am: Warlock: the answer to a question nobody asked. Exactly this But still, it's a decent resume item that didn't clog my inventory, so they are getting better (or at least less bad)

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Warlocks! Reply #78 - May 17^th, 2015 at 7:39am	Print Post
	Hiding wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 3:22am: Nicely put. I've been reading that thread, reading this thread, and I do not get the class. It just looks like a mishmash of leftovers with what will probably be OP in heroics, useless in epics. And boringly so. I'm finding it hard to keep up with the all the posts on the mobo thread, but peeps are starting to poke some serious holes in the proposed Warlock now. I think Varg is going to run out of excuses and go quiet soon. Have to give MadCookieQueen credit too - no beating around the bush, she called it like it is. It really does look like another half-assed effort pushed out the door too soon and half finished. No new spells is really telling. I liked the reply by Xoham (#145 on page 8). Pokes quite a few holes in Varg's excuses/reasons. No ED is going to be a big issue - particularly if they think Shiradi will cut it. Some of the suggestions people have made could have seen them hit the ball out of the park with this idea, but it will never happen - they're too far along to admit flaws or change anything. Another missed opportunity? I don't care how true to PnP it is, all that matters is what it adds to DDO. The more I read, the more I am convinced that they will be in the shadows of other classes.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Warlocks! Reply #79 - May 17^th, 2015 at 7:43am	Print Post
	Doggydaddy wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 4:25am: The only issue I have with this, is now everyone using Completionist will HAVE to use this, but most of us simply have too much crap in both our BTC Locker and our TR Cache to do so. I have no intention of throwing out a ton of stuff I worked so hard to get while I spent 2 years getting Competitionist for my main. Guess I gotta figure out what Feat I want to use instead.... I have seen some disagreements about this on the mobos. I thought the feat only becomes unselectable if you reset it? I didn't think it just drops out and forces you to TR?

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Warlocks! Reply #80 - May 17^th, 2015 at 8:42am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 7:39am: I don't care how true to PnP it is, all that matters is what it adds to DDO. Yeah, seriously - why should this be the only thing to remain faithful to PnP?! They gave up the pretext of fidelity long ago, why shackle Warlocks to it?

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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DiddleDoo Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 669 Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2013	Re: Warlocks! Reply #81 - May 17^th, 2015 at 8:56am	Print Post
	LOLOLOL true to D&D. They're making it fiend path and have evil alignments unavailable. This is a fucking stupid decision.


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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: Warlocks! Reply #82 - May 17^th, 2015 at 10:37am	Print Post
	Power wise it depends how much alatricity eldritch crap will have so that you can play in shiradi and how much damage it will do. The shit people talk about on mboard doesnt make much sense, example thy say hellblast energy burst n such synergy while having blast will be amazing. How? With sp bar they get that is equal to bards? How will that be good? I know for fact that as sorc with superior spellpower/points/nuking capability i have issues in some fights with sp and without all items for sp regen/discount i would be chuging sp pots like mad. That is the thing that irks and makes me most angry at this retarded idea, spbar. No new spells, beside maybe that one devil chain and how or whatever and everything else is just a fucking copy. This is not warlock, this is a fucking bard with a runearm so far. Only thing i hope is those blasts will be super outperforming to sell the class and the plife will be decent


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Edrein Shroud Slacker Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 1005 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Warlocks! Reply #83 - May 17^th, 2015 at 12:23pm	Print Post
	The shitty thing about all of this is, is just the sheer dedication to ignoring players Sev and crew have shown. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/447155-Warlock-Class-Project This damn thread has been up for a year now, and I've tried to keep it alive given all the rumors of warlocks as time passed. Warlock could have been great, hell it could have even done Pen and Paper proud, but instead we get a half-assed turd pile that even half the Mother-boarders are starting to realize is a turdbine signature.


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Warlocks! Reply #84 - May 17^th, 2015 at 12:51pm	Print Post
	Edrein wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 12:23pm: The shitty thing about all of this is, is just the sheer dedication to ignoring players Sev and crew have shown. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/447155-Warlock-Class-Project This damn thread has been up for a year now, and I've tried to keep it alive given all the rumors of warlocks as time passed. Warlock could have been great, hell it could have even done Pen and Paper proud, but instead we get a half-assed turd pile that even half the Mother-boarders are starting to realize is a turdbine signature. Oh mighty King of Butthurtia hear my prayer! Please do not smite those Turbine heathens for not paying attention to all your mighty and perfect work! They know not what they do! Grow the fuck up and realize the DDO world does NOT revolve around you, douchebag.

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fuckFoS Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 273 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2013	Re: Warlocks! Reply #85 - May 17^th, 2015 at 3:23pm	Print Post
	Warlocks huh? This is going to be one of those projects that gets abandoned by turbine, like those anauroch quests and epic vale isn't it?


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Doggydaddy Titan Demolisher Offline Pull my Finger...... Posts: 324 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	Re: Warlocks! Reply #86 - May 17^th, 2015 at 5:17pm	Print Post
	Means you can't eTR though... because you still have to rebuild from ground up, and you KNOW it's not going to let you select Completionist if you haven't ran Warlock DropBear wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 7:43am: I have seen some disagreements about this on the mobos. I thought the feat only becomes unselectable if you reset it? I didn't think it just drops out and forces you to TR?


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Warlocks! Reply #87 - May 17^th, 2015 at 6:09pm	Print Post
	DiddleDoo wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 8:56am: LOLOLOL true to D&D. They're making it fiend path and have evil alignments unavailable. This is a fucking stupid decision. I suspect the decision not to go evil lies in the DDO code. A decision was taken at the start not to permit evil toons. Likely a PR mitigation exercise. Going to Evil alignments might be more than just a philosophical decision now though. Those good damage spells might never have been coded to affect players. I guess Evil toons could circumvent some content as it stands too. Eg. They could just ignore all those wonderful spell wards that do evil damage in MOTU.

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Mr Reilly Stormreaver Piker Offline They're all gonna laugh at me. Posts: 673 Joined: Sep 22^nd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Warlocks! Reply #88 - May 17^th, 2015 at 9:39pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 6:09pm: I suspect the decision not to go evil lies in the DDO code. I always assumed it was because they felt they'd have to make a completely different set of quests for evil players or the game wouldn't make sense. This entails a limited perspective of personality, splitting everything evenly down the middle (evil people always side with evil and good people always do good).

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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Warlocks! Reply #89 - May 17^th, 2015 at 10:01pm	Print Post
	Mr Reilly wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 9:39pm: I always assumed it was because they felt they'd have to make a completely different set of quests for evil players or the game wouldn't make sense. This may have been true for the original development team, but they haven't concerned themselves with details such whether or not the game would make sense within its own context since at least 2010.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: Warlocks! Reply #90 - May 17^th, 2015 at 10:12pm	Print Post
	They have been going off this for years, and stick with it. There may very well be coding problems, I wouldn't doubt it. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/140097-Evil-Alignments-and-quests?p=16... [QUOTE=Eladrin;1620889]"The first six alignments, lawful good through chaotic neutral, are the standard alignments for player characters.� The three evil alignments are for monsters and villains." - PHB, p104. While not every character strives to be a hero, the majority of the quests and storylines in DDO make the assumption that the parties involved are not actively villainous in nature.� (There are some exceptions, such as Purging the Heretics, but even Running With the Devils involves an unfortunate situation forced upon the party through duplicity.) [/quote]

	Fuck Off, That is all Strakeln wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:17pm: WC can do whatever he wants. [] wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Public Service Announcement: your servers are not dead; if you can't find groups, it means you suck and/or nobody likes you.
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Hag Master Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Warlocks! Reply #91 - May 17^th, 2015 at 10:33pm	Print Post
	Non-issue for me, wanting to play "evil" characters smacks of teen-age boys. Plenty of excellent examples in fiction, myth, etc.. of good men and women making a deal with a dark force and using that to combat other dark forces, while trying to hold onto their inherent decency. That can pan out in tragic stories, or high tension, or melodrama, all pretty good. When people say that want to play evil, I just roll my eyes, so much bullshit.


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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: Warlocks! Reply #92 - May 17^th, 2015 at 11:09pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 7:39am: Have to give MadCookieQueen credit too - no beating around her bush, she called it like it is. you KNOW she's hairy as an owlbear!

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: Warlocks! Reply #93 - May 17^th, 2015 at 11:13pm	Print Post
	Cairnoir wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 1:41am: I'll send a prayer to Ullr for ya. why am I not surprised you pray to a johnson?

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: Warlocks! Reply #94 - May 17^th, 2015 at 11:32pm	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 11:09pm: you KNOW she's hairy as an owlbear! I thought owlbears had feathers not hair?

	Fuck Off, That is all Strakeln wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:17pm: WC can do whatever he wants. [] wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Public Service Announcement: your servers are not dead; if you can't find groups, it means you suck and/or nobody likes you.
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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: Warlocks! Reply #95 - May 17^th, 2015 at 11:51pm	Print Post
	Does she float?

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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qweeve DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 463 Location: Pa Joined: Nov 18^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Warlocks! Reply #96 - May 18^th, 2015 at 12:03am	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 10:37am: i have issues We know.


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Hag Master Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Warlocks! Reply #97 - May 18^th, 2015 at 12:41am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 7:43am: mobos. Nice.


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Hag Master Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Warlocks! Reply #98 - May 18^th, 2015 at 12:43am	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 10:37am: i have issues Fake ones, we know. Read all about it in Pitywhores public bio. "Boo-Hoo life so hard, me sad"


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Cairnoir Dragon Raider Offline I am not a farmer! Posts: 222 Joined: Sep 1^st, 2013	Re: Warlocks! Reply #99 - May 18^th, 2015 at 2:40am	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on May 17^th, 2015 at 11:13pm: why am I not surprised you pray to a johnson? My johnson is almighty and worthy of worship if you're lookin for a god.


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