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Some Guy Here On The Boards Ghostbaned Offline Somewhere on Korthos Island Posts: 528 Location: Thelanis Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:53am	Print Post
	Try: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/463636-Some-New-Thrower-Builds http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1427180132 http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1438468348


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #1 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 12:21pm	Print Post
	I would encourage you to also look into the very popular and extremely easy to dominate Xbow builds Including: -18Rogue/Whatever -20 Rogue -14Pally/5Rogue/1 Whatever These dominate hard and can do so without as many past lives or top end gear unlike some throwers.


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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #2 - Aug 10^th, 2015 at 3:04am	Print Post
	Mystery solved.


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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #3 - Aug 10^th, 2015 at 2:04pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 12:21pm: I would encourage you to also look into the very popular and extremely easy to dominate Xbow builds Including: -18Rogue/Whatever -20 Rogue -14Pally/5Rogue/1 Whatever These dominate hard and can do so without as many past lives or top end gear unlike some throwers. 18 or 20 Rogue is strong from start to finish. Pally version isn't good til later levels but surpasses the Rogue versions by end game.


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #4 - Aug 10^th, 2015 at 4:28pm	Print Post
	DoRayEgon wrote on Aug 10^th, 2015 at 2:04pm: 18 or 20 Rogue is strong from start to finish.� Pally version isn't good til later levels but surpasses the Rogue versions by end game. Except that I have a pally version and when I group with the rogue versions (leveling--particularly 13-19) they tend to die about 3 times as often as I do. I'm not that great of a player either. Could be they aren't geared/played well. But, if they get surrounded by mobs, they're toast. AC+PRR+MRR seems to help mitigate that even when swarmed at times. Of course, the solution for the rogue is "kite better", I suppose.

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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #5 - Aug 10^th, 2015 at 4:40pm	Print Post
	Meat-Head wrote on Aug 10^th, 2015 at 4:28pm: Except that I have a pally version and when I group with the rogue versions (leveling--particularly 13-19) they tend to die about 3 times as often as I do. I'm not that great of a player either. Could be they aren't geared/played well. But, if they get surrounded by mobs, they're toast. AC+PRR+MRR seems to help mitigate that even when swarmed at times. Of course, the solution for the rogue is "kite better", I suppose. No, you're right on both. Rogue is squishier, but yes, they should kite better. There's also nothing stopping them from strapping on heavy armor.


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GodOfWar Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Aug 12^th, 2015	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #6 - Aug 12^th, 2015 at 4:45pm	Print Post
	It is 14 Paladin 6 Monk Helf. Very popular currently.
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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #7 - Aug 13^th, 2015 at 11:54am	Print Post
	GodOfWar wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 4:45pm: It is 14 Paladin 6 Monk Helf. Very popular currently. Mech easier for noooooobs.


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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #8 - Aug 13^th, 2015 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	GodOfWar wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 4:45pm: Very popular currently. Surprising. I don't know more than two people that play(ed) the build on Gland.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #9 - Aug 14^th, 2015 at 10:46pm	Print Post
	GodOfWar wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 4:45pm: It is 14 Paladin 6 Monk Helf. Very popular currently. Not in my neighborhood.

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S_O_B Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 207 Joined: Aug 25^th, 2015	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #10 - Aug 29^th, 2015 at 9:04am	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 12:21pm: 14Pally/5Rogue/1 Whatever why not 13/5/2 arty, so I can use rune arm?


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #11 - Aug 29^th, 2015 at 9:42am	Print Post
	S_O_B wrote on Aug 29^th, 2015 at 9:04am: why not 13/5/2 arty, so I can use rune arm? You lose Holy Sword which is one of the only reasons to take so many Paladin levels.

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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #12 - Aug 29^th, 2015 at 11:38am	Print Post
	Technomage wrote on Aug 29^th, 2015 at 9:42am: You lose Holy Sword which is one of the only reasons to take so many Paladin levels. Correction: *Only reason to take so many pally levels


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S_O_B Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 207 Joined: Aug 25^th, 2015	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #13 - Aug 29^th, 2015 at 6:33pm	Print Post
	ahh.. TY knew there was a reason, just couldn't figure it


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #14 - Aug 29^th, 2015 at 11:09pm	Print Post
	Expert Builder > Holy Sword

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #15 - Aug 29^th, 2015 at 11:46pm	Print Post
	holy sword is better for repeaters. You get way more dps with rogue 20, but better healing, saves, and heavy armor using 15 pally.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #16 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 1:21am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Aug 29^th, 2015 at 11:46pm: holy sword is better for repeaters. You get way more dps with rogue 20, but better healing, saves, and heavy armor using 15 pally. All true, but: gxbow > repeater

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #17 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 1:24am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 30^th, 2015 at 1:21am: All true, but: gxbow > repeater That is my experience as well.

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #18 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 2:32am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 30^th, 2015 at 1:21am: All true, but: gxbow > repeater not for record breaking ee fot solos

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #19 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:14am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Aug 30^th, 2015 at 2:32am: not for record breaking ee fot solos� I know a guy that broke the mile record at his high school. Does that mean I should wear the shoes that he wore to run the fastest?� �

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #20 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:28am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:14am: I know a guy that broke the mile record at his high school. Does that mean I should wear the shoes that he wore to run the fastest?� � keep trying analogies that dont work. Goldy is far better than you. Nice try, but repeater is where it's at. Unless you dont want to set speed run records and make a fool of yourself on the vault's build section

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #21 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:39am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:28am: keep trying analogies that dont work.� Goldy is far better than you. Nice try, but repeater is where it's at. Unless you dont want to set speed run records and make a fool of yourself on the vault's build section Do you know what causation is? He might well be better than me. He might be that much better at gaming than anyone else who has ever bothered to attempt a solo FoT that he can set the record with a second-best weapon choice. Seriously, how many people attempt to solo EE FoT? I know I'm not going to on a character without maxed EPLs. That makes it not a very good DPS test, no?
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #22 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:47am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:39am: I know I'm not going to on a character without maxed EPLs. good for you. neither is his toon maxed EPLs, so 5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:39am: That makes it not a very good DPS test, no? Youre assuming he never tested gxbows, ever, once, in any capacity and just randomly decided to take the first light repeater he saw and YOLO his way to 15minutes. I am assuming he tested both and decided L.Repeater is what gives him the best chance at record time.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #23 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:48am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:47am: I am assuming This is all you needed to say.

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: u25 ranged builds? Reply #24 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:52am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:48am: This is all you needed to say.� cool. Rubbinns wrote on Aug 30^th, 2015 at 3:47am: Youre assuming he never tested gxbows, ever, once, in any capacity and just randomly decided to take the first light repeater he saw and YOLO his way to 15minutes. The above is all that really needs to be ever said.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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