@i@ wrote on Dec 17^th, 2015 at 8:30am:

Heh, this was kind of my point with that question.  Why do most people seem to only care about about the highest DPS number you can get in a given second or even 30 seconds?  Unless the average completion time of missions in DDO is 1s or 30s, it's just a number for bragging rights.

I value highest average/sustained/effective DPS over the course of an entire mission because that's the number that determines how fast or slow you complete them. Single-target DPS king builds are generally not the best at sustained DPS over the course of an entire mission.

Best melee build?

Well if you dont mind having (and occasionally using) 2 clicky abilities on the quickslot, and dont mind a damage aura sorrounding you, it is warlock.

I love how the tards playing shurishit builds think that damage is cool.

harharharhar wrote on Dec 17^th, 2015 at 1:54pm:


Dude, I'm not the guy who recorded that video, why are you asking this to me?

harharharhar wrote on Dec 17^th, 2015 at 1:54pm:

when? when did they hit for 2400 non-crit damage? when exactly did they used to?


harharharhar wrote on Dec 17^th, 2015 at 1:54pm:

doesnt matter if non-crits hit for 2k+ it isnt awesome either. just swings meta to ranged and shiradi. i dont think you ever even played a melee

build in here still viable after u29

personally, id say the easiest melee build to not totally suck with right now is thf barb.

when youre lagged out in say legendary shroud and only capable of auto attacks, the inherent aoe is good.

the high prr achievable and high amount of hp you get for free means that unless youre a very casual player, you should be able to survive at least one non doublestrike attack from pretty much anything in le ts. high free hamp means healing is also very easy with lesser sf pots.

the thf style has more reach and is easier to use for fighting and moving. staying behind enemies or not standing in one place until you get killed (like that pointless video which proves nothing other than the fact that if you stand in one place and take no actions, eventually you will be dead, in one hit or many) adds immensely to survivability.

a properly built dps barb wont be maxing out str potential, but even with a modest 80+ str and many hook boots equipped, trip is highly effective in le ts. same build on lh ts was stunning things with no stun item equipped very easily. additional note on cc in this raid, did it with a sorc who was ottos irresistable dancing trash all day, he had no problems.

its also easier to break enemy dr and slot additional effects on thf weapons. twf means you cant slot both say chaos dr breaker and deconstructor augs in the same tf weapon for shroud portals, not to mention the issues surrounding toee offhand.


from a purely dps perspective, id say twf barb, twf pally are good choices and better dps than their thf counter parts, but not as overwhelming most of the time simply because their aoe just isnt the same. however, tempest has probably the best single target damage and dance of death is actually really strong in the more recently designed quests which have mobs packed so tightly together. id say its potentially better by a wide margin than cleaving for aoe, provided you are able to hit 4 targets constantly while its active. and it has a halfway decent ranged option. so if you want good offensive versatility, tempest is the way to go. however im not sure they can be survivable enough for le with always having enemies being cced or aggrod on someone else.

ILoveExploits wrote on Dec 18^th, 2015 at 4:23am:



Nah, don't think so.  He actually knows how to play the game, has a true sense of humor, and knows things about things.

randomvaultname wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:


Have you ever played a barb? It is not easy to do, and when you lag you don't heal because you don't hit. The blood strength is not capable of keeping your bar full even on hard shroud, because mobs are doing 500.

randomvaultname wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:


What? Barbs have high PRR since when? They have about same as all other mlee (actually, a bit less because most other mlees are in a defender stance). SF pot wtf? You even play this game?

randomvaultname wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:


Give me a breakdown of a barb who can get 80 STR if not going max strength. 80 is NOT modest strength for a barb. You clearly have not played one. And plese give me  breakdown of a barb who can stun in LE TS without stunning items, because with stun item and insightful stun my dire charge is low 80s.

its also easier to break enemy dr and slot additional effects on thf weapons. twf means you cant slot both say chaos dr breaker and deconstructor augs in the same tf weapon for shroud portals, not to mention the issues surrounding toee offhand.


randomvaultname wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:


On the other hand now that you granze on a 8 you miss dance of death a lot.


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That said, this is the current situation:

Top tier DPS: exploit tree, exploit wolf, ranger
Tier 2 DPS: barb, rogue and rogue splashes, throwers
Low tier DPS: bard, paladin

Halfmaniac wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 2:58pm:


Acrobat is good. u29 was pretty kind to Acro, we got 9 more dodge cap all at once (assuming LGS 2x Escalation set goes up to +5, which it looks like it should) which is just enough to push the dodge cap for monk splash, non-halfling to 50%.

50% dodge means invincibility during Uncanny Dodge or Hood of Unrest. Assuming you have something for spells, too. After that, pump PRR a bit and you basically can't die.

Damage is not top of the line but it's not gimp, either.

build a pure barb

go human to double boost

use multiple cleaves that inflict a helpless status.

don't be a coward and play a ranged/caster so you 'don't have to get hit' or play close to the mobs.

5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 9:17am:


It is easy, you're missing tome (up to 7), exceptional (1-2), alchemical (4), rage (2-5), frenzy is 6 not 4 as you listed.
Presumably remnants pot stacks with store, but I never checked personally. Item can go up to 15 AFAIK.
92 - 96 somewhat sustainable str on pure human barb, without counting silly things like psionic

That makes 80 rather easy to get, without needing completionist, store pots and perfectly rolled stats on items.

ILoveExploits wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 9:39am:


Literally everything you post is fucking faggotry.