he wasn't thanking me, and anyone reading this thread can see very clearly who made the build

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Thank you very much for the info, it was helpful.

Here's a thrower version I whipped up. I'd love suggestions/critiques

Obviously mad props to Steelstar and anyone else who helped him with this build (forest, ???).



Some quick highlights: (if OP wants this in another thread let me know and I will move it. Up to you)

Ability scores are only accurate (Column S) For Dex and Wisdom. Wisdom might come down from 76 to 74 because not sure if +2 Wisdom from Halcyonia stacks with +3 Devils set (both Quality, anyone know?).

-DC for Terror Arrows is 83 in DC, 86 in EA (Dont think I would ever run in it though).
-Very respectable 64 Dex against trash, 68 against Red Named
-Burstable 258-308'ish RP (In DC) + 10% Consecrate
-300-350'ish Proc damage per Shuriken at 200 RP, boosts higher in DC (Fey + AA Imbue, RP scaling on SA and Harbinger)
-4.5 Averaged missle fire rate = Vorpal every 4.4 seconds,
- -3 level drain on Vorpal (-6 saves)
- 25% Incorp
- 32% Dodge
- 75 PRR/50 MRR

Not too shabby. Could drop 3 DC and run in LD for a lot more DPS.

harharharhar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 1:22am:



I wish! Steel and his crew were on it weeks before me, some of us did proof of concept work for him the last few weeks after he finalized.  

Looking forward to trying yours out.

harharharhar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 1:22am:



Can't take Completionist at 1st level.

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Good catch will swap

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Its just a summary, when the build is final it can have a full write up. DPS is irrelevant with Terror arrows, so anything damage related assume its for Red Names, and stops caring about DC for Terror. That's why I'm not sweating a Wisdom stat LGS offhand instead of ToEE; can swap for RP of ToEE on Red Names or things that can't get Terror'd

I think I can swap Wizard PL at lvl 1 for Completionist at lvl 6?

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Good catch on Quickdraw, that will work.

Yeah i thought about dropping CA or OC for that, but isn't it just like 30 Seconds every 3 minutes? Or does it have a hidden static bonus? Seems not sure it's worth it, but I suppose on an Orange name it might be, but I would just level drain it so fast (I have a Ruby/Crippling flames Shuri on my main now and it's nonstop, constant Woo Woo level drains). It's actually what I use in LE quests for trash since the level drain DPS is good.

harharharhar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:06am:



I hear that, I picked up Machine of madness yesterday, just blown away by how big of a difference it was making on that redname stuff DPS.

With just those 4lvs of Arty and impluse power of 298 it was still ticking over 380 more damage per sec. On top of that it only takes 2.5-3 blasts to get the bee stacks up to 20 and those spit out a average of 280 every two seconds. With full stacks that's an additional 520 damage per second on average from just the Runearm.  Much better than the Archon Runearm, and that's not counting the crits. The combination of the 30% charge rate and the BE points really does the trick. Normally I hate Runearms but now I finally see why Steel insisted.

harharharhar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:13am:


Definitely not worth giving  OC for AI, because that multiplier. But for CA with a shuriken? [1d2] for sure. It's really really handy versus the orange and untouched legendary Elite mobs still floating that undamaged buff. Think of it this way, you get to 'pick' when it goes off instead of trying to time the debuffs, and you still have the Debuffs as well. With the EF volley it's not unusual to see a undamaged pack of mobs drop. (oh the wailing of the warlocks is delicious!)   

Rubbinns wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:20am:


It's an Anniversary miracle....Come on, you know if this was my baby I would be a totally diva bitch about it. It's much easier to be cool and objective about something you really 'like' than it is to be about something you made. 

Or maybe that's just me because I'm socially retarded.

Also only reason I dont have the Frightened Debuff somewhere else is besides level drain it's the only debuff I'd be rocking so I just figured it could go in there. Interesting that it's DC is lower, that's lame, but it's not a deal breaker, it should still statistically go off at least as often or more than the PK, so I'm comfortable with it in the calc.

I'm also realizing I can wear ShadowRobe with +1 Profane DC and wear goggles for +2 Insight, netting another DC.

harharharhar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:45am:


Very similar to the GxB vorpal. Although kinda different as well because the vorpal as same proc as the Insta-kill, not a random floating 5% like the level drain.  I like that a lot, because on the rare occasion something still has Deathward up it put's them on their ass and I know right away to dispel them immediately.   

Are you going to have enough points to buy dispel shot and elemental? it's pretty crucial in LE.

harharharhar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:45am:


Oh yeah TF is sweet I love the phase ability. You already had +2 insight listed.

harharharhar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 3:48am:



Yeah that should work very well, the KTA will still do the same Damage, just cost a bit more over time. Which wont really matter as you will have extra sp for ES, AI, and high wis. Where as Dispel is a must to deal with caster mobs.

Also with Shuriken going just 1 rank of Dispel shot makes more sense, the extra +[w] are not worth rank 2, or 3 and at the same time you should still generate 2-3 dispels per throw so your good to go there for just 2ap.  Conversely the rank 3's  +3[w] is worth it on our GxBs 12d8 and 3 dispells down.

Rubbinns wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:20am:


Remis trolling Jakeelala on his Forest account, and Jackie's too stupid to notice.

You're welcome.