DoRayEgon wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 9:30am:


not rly. wizards always get procs.

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Is the wiki wrong regarding the cooldown of Spirit Blast and Stunning Blast?   Wiki says 8/6/5 seconds for Spirit Blast and 6 seconds for Stunning Blast.


Rubbinns wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 8:45am:

With a 13/6/1 Druid/Warlock/Wiz, in a 7s rotation you would get two 3s aura pulses, one 4s druid aura pulse, one Eldritch Burst, one Spirit Blast and one Stunning Blast (MM SLA from the 1 wizard lvl).

For an apples to apples view of DPS over a rotation, we would need to limit the rotation to something around 6, maybe 7 seconds as that is the total time needed for the warlock's button mashing ability cooldowns to refresh and start over.

On a wizard/shiradi build, how many the fireballs, acid blasts, chain lightning, sonic blasts, MM, CM, SLAs, etc. can you squeeze into a 7s rotation?  Pretty sure you cannot trigger all those in 7s due to animation delay, lag, etc.   For comparison's sake, you would/should choose the highest damage combination of options from that list that can be recycled in 7s.


I'm not sure that taking 13 druid levels for a 4s aura pulse is worthwhile even if the damage is comparable to a wizard shiradi build.  Offhand, it seems like you would get larger gains by going 14/6 Wizard/Warlock and cycling in CM and CM SLA with the auras, Eldritch Burst and Spirit Blast for Shiradi procs.

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Shiradi is roughly equivalent to adding 25 base damage.  So it's pretty clear that you're sacrificing way too much base damage on eldritch blast/burst and eldritch aura for the druid aura.  You're way better off switching out those druid levels for warlock - it's not even close.

Oops I meant eldritch wave not spirit blast. My bad. It's been awhile since I've read the names of the things. And stunning blast is limited on depravity regen.

I just know that in 9 seconds you get 3x druid auras, ~2.8x warlock auras (they tick faster than the description), 3.3x hit with Eldritch wave, 1.8x hit with eldritch blast, and 1x hit with stunning blast, for a total spell power proc ratio of:

druid 3x auras = 300%
2.8x warlock aura x 1.3 = 364%
1.8x eldritch burst x1 = 180%
3.3x eldritch wave x 150% = 495%
1x stunning blast x 150% = 150%

total of ~1500% spell power proc ratio/9 sec per mob = 165% AoE spell power proc coefficient per sec.

MM>CM combo is 16 missiles in 2 seconds, for 8 missiles/sec @100%, or 800% flat spell power proc coefficient per sec.

If you pull 5 mobs its a tie. > 5 mobs AoEs win, < 5 mobs, MM+CM wins.

Digimonk wrote on Mar 5^th, 2016 at 12:34am:

Say 6 seconds, firing off : hellball(6 seconds), chain lit(5), CM(4), SLA CM(10),  Energy Burst(forever), and last one of fireball/acid blast(4), dbf(6), arcane blast(6), or sonic blast (3 seconds). Cooldowns in parenthesis.

Ideally you start off with CM in order to get it in twice on a 6 second rotation.

1. CM
2. SLA CM
3. Hellball
4. Chain Lit/DBF/energy burst.
5. CM
6. fireball/arcane blast/sonic blast/Acid blast.

This build can also opt to max its CM CL.

Digimonk wrote on Mar 5^th, 2016 at 11:43am:

Yeah, you have to quicken that as well otherwise the time might be even longer.

Ya I don't think the warlock AOE's can be beat for shiradi procs for general leveling. Of course, that starts you down the dark path of a 20 warlock...