Rubbinns wrote on Nov 27^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:


Having a decent machine for max object draw distance is a huge advantage to any noncaster ranged character.

Best case scenario?

Archer's Focus (45 RP)
Relentless Fury (+5%)
Racial Damage Boost (+20% for 20 secs)
Inferno Shot every 3 seconds


Fully stacked Inferno Shot DPS:

"Performs a ranged attack with +0/+1/+2[W] damage. On Hit: Target gain 1 stack of Inferno (target takes 1d6 fire damage every 2 second for 6 seconds. This effect can stack 20 times, and loses one stack on expiration.) (Activation cost: 6 SP. Cooldown 3 seconds)"

1 second: inferno shot 20d6 = 70*3.42 = 239.4 fire damage
2 seconds
3 seconds: tick for 20d6 = 70 fire damage
4 seconds: inferno shot 20d6 = 70*3.42 = 239.4 fire damage
5 seconds:
6 seconds: tick for 20d6 = 70 fire damage
repeat

70*2+239.4*2 = 618 fire damage/ 6 seconds = 103.1333333333333 DPS


145 average base sneak attack (12d6+54 standing hide mod+25 SoS boost+24 from deception) * (1.5*183 RP=274 effective MP)(30 epic levels+32 10k+24 SD levels+20 Kensei+21 gear+11 feats+45 AF)= 542.3 + 182% ANT/SE + 60% DS = 1854.666 * 1.05 shadow mastery = 1947.3993 * 1.05 Relentless Fury = 2044.769265 * 1.3 LD damage boost = 2658.2000445 of just sneak attack damage per animation. (no helpless)


5.75d2+20 enhancement+41 dex +25 deadly + 8 WS + 4 ninjutsu +3 monk PLs + 6 ranger PLs = 115.625x1.35 (crit profile) = 156.09375+12.65 (23 seeker) = 168.74375 x 2.83 (RP) = 477.5448125 x 2.82 (ANT/SE) + .60 (DS) = 1633.20325875 * 1.05 shadow mastery = 1714.8634216875 * 1.05 Relentless Fury = 1800.606592771875 * 1.3 LD damage boost = 2340.788570603438

plus

Mainhand 35 ToF + 10.35 DE + 36 MF + 10.5 CW Ruby + 62.91 Element Arrow (3d8 w/ 366sp) + (15 x 2.83=42.45)  sting +11 quiver +(10.5*2.83=29.715) harbinger  = 237.925 x 2.82 (ANT/SE)+ .60 (DS) = 813.7035

= 5812.692115103438 average red name damage per animation while auto attacking

x1.4 animations per second = 8137.768961144813

+ 103.1333333333333 inferno shot = 8240.9 red name action boosted damage per second

Action boosts are 2/3 uptime, so over one minute that's 329636.0917791258 (8240.902294478146*40 secs) action boosted damage plus 132516.8886842792 (6625.844434213958*20 secs) = 462152.980463405 damage per minute plus whatever you work in from A Good Death, Deadly Shot, Shattering Shot, and Shrouding Shot.

Thanks man, it's good stuff.

Just noticed I forgot the spooky Wis augment. 

...and I've had Haste Boost copy pasted from a different Kensei layout this whole time.

I should deaverage 10k for a better 20 second burst number while I'm at it.

First off, I'm not interested in playing a monkcher.

Second, that build doesn't have 41% dodge, 25% incorp, usable abundant step, etc.

Also, there are sub 20 second kobold builds.

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 1^st, 2016 at 4:02pm:


Ok

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 1^st, 2016 at 4:02pm:


Who cares? It has 33% Dodge, 10% incorp with an option for 25% Incorp (change AP), but no abundant step. Which is highly overrated.

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 1^st, 2016 at 4:02pm:


Glass cannon wolf builds, or completely useless outside of Manyshot builds aren't really very playable. My example was meant to be drawn from a build someone would actually play

5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 28^th, 2016 at 10:51am:


This is factually inaccurate. Blind mobs move in very small areas, very slowly, listening for stuff to walk toward. Given range of a thrower, most of the time they never find you. So, to summarize:
50% concealment that bypasses True Seeing
Causes mob to be largely unable to target
100% Concealment (effective) versus ranged and caster mobs with long duration (while you kill more immediate melee threats)
Does not require a non-DPS equipment slot (like Deception on an offhand)
The closest thing we have to Mass Displacement in game

Obviously play how you choose, and with a more SA dependant build I can understand why you choose two deception procs. I just don't agree, for my build at least. Even for your I question it, but hey.

5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 28^th, 2016 at 10:51am:


This is like people who pick flowers in public places knowing they shouldn't because "most people wont except me". Perhaps more importantly, there are still other DPS choices for red names, I like Triple electric when no electric immunity. I always just check and if it's 20 stacked and being kept up in a party/raid I will switch. For trash though its rare they get 20 stacked immediately without someone Vacuuming.

5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 28^th, 2016 at 10:51am:


Like, imperceptibly5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 28^th, 2016 at 10:51am:


This. With 1 Imp Deception Item, Sniper Shot (which is always spammed), and blindness, I just don't see the argument that I'd get better uptime on SA, and I'd be having to use a shitty Imp Deception offhand and lack previously asserted defensive benefits of blindness. I guess I'm just not convinced

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 1^st, 2016 at 7:37pm:


Bruh. You're better than this math.

You would have to calculate your total AC and Saving Throws and calculate the incremental or marginal improvement of +1 AC and +1 saves, which will be much more like .05% for AC and 1.3'ish% for Saves.

You know this, but you allowed yourself to post misleading information to bolster your point. It's my biggest issue with your cherry picked numbers sometimes and I don't know why you do it.

harharharhar wrote on Dec 1^st, 2016 at 8:39pm:

Because he wants to win the internet?

Rubbinns wrote on Dec 1^st, 2016 at 4:52pm:



I still have one pure ranger toon living at 30 for almost a year now that I hop one now and then to remind me of this fact.

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It depends on burst characteristics. For example on a hybrid thrower/bow FoTW build, your burst damage is so instantaneous (every 7 seconds potentially since that's the cooldown on Adren) that I actually find it ideal, and regularly have a vastly higher kill count than anyone else. Being able to decide whether to do very little damage or a huge amount of damage at a very small interval of time is idealized for IPS and large groups of mobs.

When your burst periodicity is 20 seconds of AB + 10k, you actually spend a fair amount of time wasting your burst DPS in between fights. Much more so than wasting none of it by only using Adrenaline + Slayer or Sniper when a mob is present.

The "instant on" and "instant off" of Adren + Active attack is the most specifically applicable version of burst damage in game. In my mind, it makes it the most versatile platform. If there's 1 mob, I wont adren. If there's 3+ mobs, I will, and usually I will kill them all with Adren + whatever active attack chosen. Because Shuriken, I don't even need 10k or AB for almost any trash mob to kill it in one shot with Adren. Those (10k/AB/etc) are really only important for calculating DPS or Time to Kill versus Red Names.

I dont know if that makes sense or not outside of my head.

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 1^st, 2016 at 12:26pm:


5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 1^st, 2016 at 6:37pm:


So, I modeled these poorly. I forgot that with both LD damage boost and Human damage boost on different timers I can alternate, so it should be 20 seconds @ 1.3, 20 seconds @ 1.2, 20 seconds @ 1.3 instead of having the middle 20 unboosted.

60 second burst:
30% action boosts are 2/3 uptime, and 20% action boosts are 1/3 with 20/20/20 so over one minute that's 329636.0917791258 (8240.902294478146*40 secs) action boosted damage plus 154050.9934878017 (7702.549674390083*20 secs) = 483687.0852669275 damage per minute plus whatever you work in from A Good Death, Deadly Shot, Shattering Shot, and Shrouding Shot. (8061.451421115458 DPS)

30 second burst:
30% action boosts are 2/3 uptime, the other 10 is at 20% AB so over 30 seconds that's 199107.8003680967 (9955.390018404833*20 secs) action boosted damage plus 92962.11713399333 (9296.211713399333*10 secs) = 292069.9 damage per 30 seconds plus whatever you work in from A Good Death, Deadly Shot, Shattering Shot, and Shrouding Shot. (9735.7 DPS)

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 1^st, 2016 at 6:37pm:


5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:


Update to these numbers, edited some other posts.

30 second burst:
30% action boosts are 2/3 uptime, the other 10 is at 20% AB so over 30 seconds that's 219011.4 (10950.6*20 secs) action boosted damage plus 102159.2 (10215.9*10 secs) = 321170.5 damage per 30 seconds plus whatever you work in from A Good Death, Deadly Shot, Shattering Shot, and Shrouding Shot. (10705.7+ DPS)

harharharhar wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 8:12pm:



Sigh. Back to GS.