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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Legendary Affirmation Sep 1^st, 2016 at 2:00pm	Print Post
	So here's the text for LGS effect "Legendary Affirmation": Quote: Attacks and offensive spells have a chance to grant 1,000 temporary hitpoints on attack. This has a one minute cooldown. I have a couple questions. 1. Anyone have any idea what the % chance is (roughly) of the temp HP effect to proc? 2. Is a Warlock's Eldritch Blast considered an "offensive spell" for the purposes of triggering the temp HP effect? Thanks.
	« Last Edit: Sep 1^st, 2016 at 2:01pm by Technomage »
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #1 - Sep 1^st, 2016 at 2:04pm	Print Post
	Technomage wrote on Sep 1^st, 2016 at 2:00pm: So here's the text for LGS effect "Legendary Affirmation": I have a couple questions. 1. Anyone have any idea what the % chance is (roughly) of the temp HP effect to proc? 2. Is a Warlock's Eldritch Blast considered an "offensive spell" for the purposes of triggering the temp HP effect? Thanks. Why does turbine have such a raging nerboner for random effects? Anyway, in answer to #2: the warlock's eldritch blast counts as an attack, so it definitely falls under "attacks or offensive spells"

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #2 - Sep 1^st, 2016 at 3:24pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Sep 1^st, 2016 at 2:04pm: Anyway, in answer to #2: the warlock's eldritch blast counts as an attack, so it definitely falls under "attacks or offensive spells" It also counts as a spell for...just about everything I think.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #3 - Sep 1^st, 2016 at 3:39pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Sep 1^st, 2016 at 2:04pm: Why does turbine have such a raging nerboner for random effects? Seconded! I have been wondering that for the past year.


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Mr Reilly Stormreaver Piker Offline They're all gonna laugh at me. Posts: 673 Joined: Sep 22^nd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #4 - Sep 1^st, 2016 at 4:59pm	Print Post
	I miss the days when you could get procs on crit.

	- Zorro
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #5 - Sep 1^st, 2016 at 5:39pm	Print Post
	Grand wrote on Sep 1^st, 2016 at 3:39pm: Seconded! I have been wondering that for the past year. It seems to be their shortcut to game design. "Forget systems where the players can actually impact the results, let's just make EVERY SINGLE THING an insane dice roll! Random chance is FUN!"

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #6 - Sep 1^st, 2016 at 5:40pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Sep 1^st, 2016 at 5:39pm: It seems to be their shortcut to game design. "Forget systems where the players can actually impact the results, let's just make EVERY SINGLE THING an insane dice roll! Random chance insulates us from accountability!" FTFY


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #7 - Sep 1^st, 2016 at 6:56pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Sep 1^st, 2016 at 2:04pm: Why does turbine have such a raging nerboner for random effects? Oh, I dunno. Maybe because in PnP you roll dice to hit, to make a saving throw, to determine weapon or spell damage, and for a dozen other things? Randomly determining things is built into the heart of the base game, and DDO took all of that, both the good and the bad, with it when it tried to make it into a computer game.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #8 - Sep 1^st, 2016 at 7:24pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Sep 1^st, 2016 at 5:39pm: let's just make EVERY SINGLE THING an insane dice roll! Random chance is FUN!" you should try hearthstone. the best pros in that game have a 60% win rate in tournaments. sixty percent. On any day, anyone, could simply just beat the best player in the world because of RNG. It's the ideal embodiment of let's just make every single thing an insane die roll.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #9 - Sep 1^st, 2016 at 7:46pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Sep 1^st, 2016 at 7:24pm: you should try hearthstone. the best pros in that game have a 60% win rate in tournaments. sixty percent. On any day, anyone, could simply just beat the best player in the world because of RNG. It's the ideal embodiment of let's just make every single thing an inane die roll.� FTFY


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #10 - Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 12:13am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Sep 1^st, 2016 at 6:56pm: Oh, I dunno.� Maybe because in PnP you roll dice to hit, to make a saving throw, to determine weapon or spell damage, and for a dozen other things? Randomly determining things is built into the heart of the base game, and DDO took all of that, both the good and the bad, with it when it tried to make it into a computer game. PnP has you roll the occasional d20 and damage roles. Can you fucking imagine trying to play DDO as a PnP? "Ok, I rolled my d20 for attack... now I roll my d1000 18 times and look up the results on tables from 4 different source books."

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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iGouger Ex Member	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #11 - Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 1:35am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 12:13am: PnP has you roll the occasional d20 and damage roles. Can you fucking imagine trying to play DDO as a PnP? "Ok, I rolled my d20 for attack... now I roll my d1000 18 times and look up the results on tables from 4 different source books." You do have a point. With the d20 system, yes, there is an element of chance to it, but over the course of a battle--let alone an entire quest--there are thousands of rolls being done, to the point that the results more-or-less equalize themselves to stable results. In recent years, though, especially with lots of these epic destinies and newer item effects, it does seem that Turbine's been implementing an inordinate amount of random effects. I personally don't mind a small amount of luck, but there should be a limit to it, and they really should've reigned in all this randomness when it comes to certain game aspects. Not doing so just screams "bad game design."


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #12 - Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 11:24am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Sep 1^st, 2016 at 6:56pm: Oh, I dunno.� Maybe because in PnP you roll dice to hit, to make a saving throw, to determine weapon or spell damage, and for a dozen other things? Randomly determining things is built into the heart of the base game, and DDO took all of that, both the good and the bad, with it when it tried to make it into a computer game. OK, there is random and then there is random. Random in PnP is rolling a d20 with a known and consistent target modified by known bonuses and penalties that are under your control (within limits). Random in DDO is rolling a d10000 with a target known only to Turdbin, and probably not even them. It's also subject to change without notice or admission, and will almost certainly be broken for months at a time at some point. A little random is the salt that gives the stew savor in PnP, Turdbin wants to serve us seawater and can't understand why we aren't more grateful.

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #13 - Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	Ok, since no one seems to be able to answer my first question, I'll ask a different one. If you were playing a Fey-pact Warlock whose only real source of healing was Cocoon (that's right, not putting enough APs into ES to get Shining Through), would your LGS Charisma 15/7/2 scepter be Legendary Affirmation or Legendary Air Strike as its Weapon Bonus Effect? Legendary Air Strike is: Quote: Attacks and spells have a chance to deal massive electrical damage. Thanks.
	« Last Edit: Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 12:28pm by Technomage »
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #14 - Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 4:47pm	Print Post
	Affirmation is a hot swap. Use a damage proc stick fulltime and then swap in affirmation for a few seconds per minute when you need hp (if/when you have spare mats to waste on a swap item.)
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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Legendary Affirmation Reply #15 - Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 4:51pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 4:47pm: Affirmation is a hot swap. Use a damage proc stick fulltime and then swap in affirmation for a few seconds per minute when you need hp (if/when you have spare mats to waste on a swap item.) Sounds reasonable. Thanks.

	Do not try the patience of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, crystal and scanner, holographic demons and invocation of equations. These are the tools we employ, and we know many things. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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