I'm happy to spend cash for TP to help short cut TRing, because I don't really enjoy TRing and because thankfully I have more cash than I have time - so if I can buy TP and help fund DDO and also save time that would be ill spent (in my view) leveling, that's all good.

I'm also happy to see other folks buying TP and funding the game too.

That said, thankfully the DDO anniversary card fairy was kind enough to gift me with more XP pots than I can likely use in a lifetime, so I don't need to spend TP on those, so I'm not looking at 10k TP per life on that shit!

Asheras wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:


It's statements like this that remind me how fucking amazing the DDO Store people are. 

Ok, put away the pitchforks for a second here and hear me out.  They have a product so shitty yet still addictive enough in other ways that people are willing to figure out how they can straight faced say, "but I only spent $2 per hour of the gaming time I avoided having to play."

Spoon wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

Not the "product addiction" anymore, more like people are addicted to seeing even the shittiest improvement for their characters they wasted hundreds of hours time in already.

It's fucking brilliant, and for normal people "paying for not playing the game that frankly has very little to do anyway" must seem downright insane.

Spoon wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:


I think you are missing the point.  The point isn't about whether or not you enjoy playing the game.  I was assuming anyone playing the game and spending money was enjoying the game.  If you are spending money on a game you don't like playing then that does seem like a waste of money.

The point I was trying to make is that some people have more time than money.  For them, spending $30 on a box to skip past 18 hours of play time makes no sense.  Because the $30 is more valuable than the 18 hours.  The 18 hours is a few days of game time at max. 

Others have more money than time.  They want the past lives, but they also want to run raids and farm slavers with their guildies.  If they only have 10 hours per week of game time, they won't ever TR because it will take them 2-3 weeks to get back to a point where they can run with their friends.  But they have plenty of money in the bank, own their car and house outright, have plenty of money in retirement accounts, and are living comfortably.  To them $30 is not significant.  But 18 hours is. 

Some people  have both time and money.  I would venture to guess they don't buy to bypass, again, because the opportunity cost of 2-3 days is not so much.  Who knows.  maybe they do.

Some people have neither money nor time.  These are probably the ones who have reduced down to running fewer characters, or who don't TR, or who never run epics or who are not focused particularly on completionists or, are just happy to make whatever progress they can at whatever pace they can and just enjoy the journey and not worry about how long it takes. 

At the end of the day, if people can afford it and want it and will pay for it and it doesn't break the game experience for me, then Turbine should provide it.  It keeps the lights on. 

I concur, I wouldn't condemn someone for busting out an Otto's box just to get through some shit ass PL. Especially if they're stuck in TR hell and lost in the purgatory of no one running shit through levels 6-12. But for as much bluster, bullying, sycophantic cocksucking and know-it-all circle jerking, and for all the times those faggots kept telling people to try a lower difficulty, Qhuayl-WHORE really showed his true colors and continues to streak yellow baby shit as he drags his ass on the rug with his threats to quit in the thread. Just like most of Fat Fuck Jerry's Circle jerk, they don't play the game, they play the forums and stomp on anyone that doesn't revere them in their uuberness, such as the fat fuck can't play the game unless he has god mode training wheels activated for his Twitch stream.

And speaking of two faced fuckos...


eighnuss wrote on Nov 27^th, 2016 at 1:13pm:



You invalidated any credibility you had with this one sentence. Take you and your jizz filled account sock and after wiping Vargouille's ass, cram it down his throat and tell him I hope he chokes on it while the thinks its tastes like Rocky Road Sundae. From this point on anytime you reply I will think of this image to remind myself not to take anything you say seriously as you're a closet corporate cocksucker.

Spoon wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

Agreed. I don't particularly enjoy the game in its current state, but still dabble a bit in the probably niave hope that it will some day get better again.

Over and over again I am impressed with how good they are at squeezing their shrinking player base. If only they were as good at running the game as they are at milking whales 

Ha, may im to rich 

In 11 years of DDO i almost spend 3000 Dollars in all my Toons.

And i not duped, only used the free ottos stones etc.

and im proud owner of title ultimate completionist.

my english is bad, but i wanna hear you swiss talking.

Ingame YTZI Server Khyber. cu 

Novalis wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 2:08pm:


They are clearly not very bright.  Double points sales $200 = 33500 TP.  $400 = 67,000 TP total.  13 boxes * 4995 TP = 64,935 TP.  Still have 2065 TP left over. 

Every time I've stoned through all or most of a life, I felt detached and hazy when I reached the end.

Asheras wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 3:50pm:


This. I enjoy playing the game, just not grinding PLs with PUGs when I could be running with friends at cap.  So I'm all for using stones to spend less time grinding PLs.  That said, I mostly just avoid piling on PLs because most of them just aren't worth the time or money.

Newbin3:16 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 6:15pm:

This is Tolero in her Owlbear costume:



Here she is without the head:



You're welcome.

OldCoaly wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 3:45pm:


I shed a tear for what might have been


But if they won't improve, I guess I don't really much care if they go on or go under. I'll stick around, taking longer and longer breaks, hoping some day a WB exec will have a kid who falls in love with D&D and gets Dad to make fixing DDO a pet project.

What a damn shame.