Digimonk wrote on Dec 15^th, 2016 at 3:12pm:

when my account got banned last year, I had to start over. I leveled on normal and hard solos, and piked ee where I could. On first life, 28pt builds with no resources or named gear. It was all random loot until I hit cap and farmed for some items. Then I repeated the process 3 more times for other toons. They're mostly done and on at least 2 of them I can solo most every quest on elite.

The shiradi builds were leveled and played as DC builds for N/H until I got gear, unlocked shiradi and leveled rest of EDs for twists. If I can dc cast on shiradi splits on hard, than 18+ caster levels would have been even easier. IDK why he has the idea that playing on hard with new toons using spells cannot be done.

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2016 at 9:59pm:

just did it 4x this year, so....

Rubbinns wrote on Dec 15^th, 2016 at 10:41pm:

No, you didn't.  You said that this is what you did:
Rubbinns wrote on Dec 15^th, 2016 at 3:55pm:

Seriously, try to be consistent across a single day.

And really, leveling on normal and hard?  Are you fucking kidding me?  This is the great skill you're publicly claiming?  I only claimed that a first life Cleric, one of the crappiest classes in the game, will have a hard time soloing LH.  But they can still level through heroics on E all the way.  Unless they are played by Rubbins, according to his own words.  Mookie and you should form a gimps only guild and carry each others soul stones past the hard parts of the game.

Frank wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 2:23am:


No one claimed that they had to be naked to solo LH but you, Idiot.

Rubbinns wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 3:19am:

Please, stop with the apologies for being such a gimp player.  You only embarrass yourself.  Good players can run HE BB all the way up to epics, even on a fucking Cleric.  Only then do things change, because the mechanics involved with the gimp class.  Combine a gimp class with a gimp player, and you've got a Rubbins, running HN to level up and gear his character.  How sad.

Frank wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 6:51am:


My God, you can't be that dumb, can you? Where did anyone claim you have to also fucking Level on Solo while not getting any gear at all?

Are you are a retard who's stuck in some sorta Permadeath mentality?

I bet your noobass we can all cite any gear we fucking want.


This is how it's done:

1) Level on N/H/ or Elite with people

2) Gather Legend..wait for it...fucking gear

3) Farm Fate points and twists like every fucking player would.

4) Twink, and Min-Max because any sane fucker would, especially for 28pt Cleric.

5) ?????

6) Profit.


Now, go solo LH, retard.



Stop spreading your stupid everywhere.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 7:18am:

Gotcha.  Let me know once you level your 28 point Cleric.  LOL.

You are a sad fuck story.

Does no one on this forum have the capability to comprehend that playing a first life character is != to twinking the fuck out of their new character?

Hi, welcome!  Perhaps your "new character" isn't going to face the same challenges as a new character that isn't twinked up with the BTA gear that you picked up across a couple years of play time.  Why is this so hard for you fucktards to understand?

English, motherfuckers, do you speak it?

Frank wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 10:50am:


Alright, gotcha. Whatever floats your boat, Francis.

this thread has become dumb

it is totally possible to solo everything that is solo-able on a first life 28pt build. people have been claiming for YEARS that this was not possible, for every rendition of the game. they said it when the cap was 12, they said it when the cap was 20, they said it when the cap was 25 they said it at 28 they are saying it at 30 and theyll be saying it at 35. in response, people built exactly those things and did what others said couldnt be done to prove they were retarded. theres multiple strategies, methods, variables, etc. which allow ANYTHING to succeed when done in a successful fashion. this argument is tired and 10 years old. this has turned into a pissing contest where posters are questioning the skills of other posters, but blaming the builds instead of the users for any complications. if you want a thread discussing which poster is least good at DDO i would welcome such a thread but this isnt that thread. the title asks about viable cleric builds. not vault user skill level. i would like to ask that you create a seperate thread where you can all prove your varying skill levels of DDO with actual evidence, and allow this thread to remain as a discussion of viable cleric builds.

this of course assumes any of you can get over yourselves and actually come with facts- which is very naive on my part

Frank wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 11:52am:

Rubbinns wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

eighnuss wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

And then you just gave up and swallowed the Mookie load.

Frank wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:


lets just pretend i order a 24 pack of his semen just for ingestion.

ok now that we've established this set of variables, has this somehow changed the parameters of my initial statement?

eighnuss wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

eighnuss wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

eighnuss wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:


amazing- it is all still accurate regardless of whether i drink semen or not

this science is something else

noamineo wrote on Dec 12^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

Could you please elaborate on this build. Want to get cleric over and done with as fast as possible.