Of fucking course the dumbasses had to fuck with their aggro horseshit and now Aura of Menace effects are preventing mobs from becoming active and preventing completion of quests.

Goddamn it.  Why can't you fuckers just leave shit alone?

I enjoy watching the devs kick themselves in the balls more than I enjoy playing the game nowadays.

Meursault wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:19am:


What?  Test things before releasing them to live?  That's what the player base is there for!  Turbine Standing Stone has people who post on the forums with "Quality Assurance" in their titles, but they either aren't given enough time and resources to actually QA things before they go live or they are incompetent.

I have mixed feelings about the new aggro system. On the one hand, the AI is behaving like it probably always should have. Enemies should be able to see you if you can see them (if you are not invised or stealthed), and they should obviously know if there is a battle happening nearby.

On the other hand, playing this way is a bitch. Can't imagine what reaper is going to be like.

It would be fine if one mob notices you and the mob group (and only that group) attacks you.
At the moment one mob gets aggro and all other mobs in range / LoS of the aggroed mobs will run to you.
It's a kind of chain reaction => red dungeon alert.
Only nice for strong AoE builds.

I like chain reactions

Lol. I was doing Tangleroot last night. The one where you go up the trap ramp to get the last tactician...I'm kiting the mass of mobs around in the tight quarters up there, and after a few seconds every damn one of the wolves from the hallway below are charging up the ramp straight at me.

I like it, this is better than champs!

Slayers are pretty good too, Orchard especially.  Now you don't even have to run.  Pick a quadrant, shoot something, and stand there while 850 mobs come running.

Tspoon wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 3:00pm:


You are pretty wrong. Read this:

Lelouch wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 4:38pm:


This never happened. They did not fix anything, they changed something.

Excellent time for griefing newbies in elites. Roll a ranged and pull the entire dungeon to the fighter.

It really only affects players who are soloing on squishy builds that don't have any AoE kill or CC abilities.

Which describes a lot of ranged builds and players.  Not the good ones, mind you.

I duo'd ToEE this weekend and had no problem, but was the two characters were a warlock and an FvS.  Neither is squishy and both have strong AoE CC and AoE trash clearing abilities.   

Still, something is wrong.  I get what they were trying to fix and I agree with the need for it to be fixed.  But they definitely have some unintended consequences from this.  Was this change on either of the last two lama builds?  I don't think it was. 

FM wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:55pm:


I don't have to imagine this, the AI had this behavior when we ran a bunch of 5-10 skull reapers last time Lamania was up.

There are a few quests that'll be completely broken by this.  ToEE part 1 was retarded with the spawns but the rest of the stuff wasn't that bad.   

We did have an hilarious episode where our tank threw a dagger to try to pull down the hallway in LE Slavelords Skull 5 that lead to a whole shitload of meteor swarms hitting the party at once and killing everyone without evasion.

reading this actually is making me want to actually log in and play again!

GJ