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Mar 8th, 2017 at 10:37am
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I make no promises about the video quality...

And I think the very notion of Dragonborn is beyond gaytarded.

But fuck my life... Dragonborn looks good.

Art Department killed it again.

Those guys/girls/preferred-pronouns are the ACTUAL Rockstarz™ at SSG.

There's money I hoped I wouldn't need to spend... Bollocks.  Angry

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It also looks like the DB race and racial tree are OP as fuck, just like PnP.
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Reply #1 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 10:55am
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Metal-Beast wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 10:37am:
But fuck my life... Dragonborn looks good.

Art Department killed it again.

Those guys/girls/preferred-pronouns are the ACTUAL Rockstarz™ at SSG.

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It also looks like the DB race and racial tree are OP as fuck, just like PnP.


The art in DDO has always been good.  The vistas in Stormhorns, the armor that isn't just stripperific (not that there's anything wrong with that, I just prefer my porn and my games to be separate), etc.

But I'm not sure you're playing the same PnP that I've played, because the dragonborn and associated feats were always weaksauce.
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 11:04am
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Is there a link to the feats and enchantments
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 11:07am
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Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 10:55am:
The art in DDO has always been good.  The vistas in Stormhorns, the armor that isn't just stripperific (not that there's anything wrong with that, I just prefer my porn and my games to be separate), etc.

But I'm not sure you're playing the same PnP that I've played, because the dragonborn and associated feats were always weaksauce.


I didn't play Dragonborn in PnP, as noted, because I thought the concept was HellaLame.

But the consensus of most players was that they were OP, and required constant DM vigilance to remain in balance.

At least at lower levels, where a DB Paladin was Melee, Heals and AoE Dragonbreath all over everything, removing the need for anyone else in the party.

Maybe at higher levels those benefits wane in value, but they pwned for new rolls.

I can't speak to the racial feats, the only one I remember was the one that granted wings and flight, which was of limited value because of armour restrictions or the like.

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Reply #4 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 11:17am
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SpaceGoat wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 11:04am:
Is there a link to the feats and enchantments


Later on in the video he goes through the racial tree.

Looks like:

Innate Racial Stats: +Fort saves, STR or CHA selector

HP and Heal Amp

Brute Fighting (Hate gen, Spells or Melee)

Additional Action Boosts

Dragonbreath Boosts

Skills boosts Intim, Haggle, Spellcraft

Saves Boost: Fort

Spell Power Boost based on Draconic Heritage (Fire, Cold, Acid, Electric)

Natural Armour and PRR

Some EVO and SP boosts

Memory of Flight: Abundant Step ability. Not a "Flyby Attack" a la Draconic Incarnation. (no wings graphic though)  Tongue

  

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Reply #5 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 11:29am
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We posted on lama section racial enchas.


I got some bad interaction with either gear, stacking or edests as my guildie couldnt reproduce same damage as i did.
But i had a 38 k crit on a helpless mob with the breath sla as a sorc.

Something is very strange with it, maybe intentional so that people buy the race? No clue
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Reply #6 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 11:39am
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Art looks solid.  They did a good job with that.

Agree with the comment in the vid that it would be nice if you could have a wider range of skin color.  As a Blue heritage dragon, you don't have an option to have any sort of blue tinge to your skin. That seems strange.
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Reply #7 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 11:42am
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Lelouch wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 11:29am:
We posted on lama section racial enchas.


I got some bad interaction with either gear, stacking or edests as my guildie couldnt reproduce same damage as i did.
But i had a 38 k crit on a helpless mob with the breath sla as a sorc.

Something is very strange with it, maybe intentional so that people buy the race? No clue


Nothing about this surprises me.

The new toys are always way OP on release, an unspoken perc for VIPs and early adopters.

Maybe the Breath SLA is a repeat of the Arty bug granting +9000% Spell Power?

I won't lie... My gimp-build urge came roaring back with ideas for a Blue DB Melee Arty with full retard Electric EnH.  Grin
  

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Metal-Beast wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 11:42am:
My gimp-build urge came roaring back with ideas for a Blue DB Melee Arty with full retard Electric EnH.  Grin


where is Tilo when you need him   Cheesy
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painkiller wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 12:22pm:
where is Tilo when you need him   Cheesy

Choned, which is right where you need him.
  

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Lelouch wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 11:29am:
We posted on lama section racial enchas.


I got some bad interaction with either gear, stacking or edests as my guildie couldnt reproduce same damage as i did.
But i had a 38 k crit on a helpless mob with the breath sla as a sorc.

Something is very strange with it, maybe intentional so that people buy the race? No clue

I rolled a pure dragon sorc. No gear(naked), no lives or tomes. Nothing. 250~ fire spell power in draconic ED. And DB could crit for 10k easily. Assuming some higher spell power and crit multi% : it's going to be a mini energy burst. 
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Rubbinns wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 1:18pm:
I rolled a pure dragon sorc. No gear(naked), no lives or tomes. Nothing. 250~ fire spell power in draconic ED. And DB could crit for 10k easily. Assuming some higher spell power and crit multi% : it's going to be a mini energy burst. 


Yep, i have no idea what they were thinking when they made it.
They didnt think this update through at all from what ive seen on lama so far /although gear is mostly meh
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Reply #12 - Mar 8th, 2017 at 2:20pm
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Lelouch wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
Yep, i have no idea what they were thinking when they made it.
They didnt think this update through at all from what ive seen on lama so far /although gear is mostly meh


The gear is actually nice.  The problem is that a lot of players have crafted cannith and slavers stuff and changing that is an expensive bitch.  And the additive value to do so is kinda missing.

Even with the flexibility of the slavers stuff sliding to two different slots, it is still limiting.  Once you have invested that many mats in things.  And the 5 piece set bonus, especially for casters, is hard to pass up.

They are in a no win situation with the dragon breath.  It is either going to be not powerful enough (in which case it becomes a novelty and waste of time) or too powerful, in which case dragonborn join Bladeforged in the short list of OP races.  Finding that balanced middle ground is a bitch.   

It is tough to get the power level just right on some of these secondary abilities.   Turn Undead is another example.  It is mostly a novelty because of scaling issues.
  
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They look good, but I wish they had built in a different posture, gait, stance. They just move like all the other humanoids.
  
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Asheras wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
The gear is actually nice.  The problem is that a lot of players have crafted cannith and slavers stuff and changing that is an expensive bitch.  And the additive value to do so is kinda missing.

Even with the flexibility of the slavers stuff sliding to two different slots, it is still limiting.  Once you have invested that many mats in things.  And the 5 piece set bonus, especially for casters, is hard to pass up.


This. I have a 5 piece set on my main that she put on at Lvl 8 and is still wearing in E-star. I literally won't have anything better until almost cap, and by then I'll just TR again so grinding Legendary Slaver's is moot.

Asheras wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
They are in a no win situation with the dragon breath.  It is either going to be not powerful enough (in which case it becomes a novelty and waste of time) or too powerful, in which case dragonborn join Bladeforged in the short list of OP races.  Finding that balanced middle ground is a bitch.   

It is tough to get the power level just right on some of these secondary abilities.   Turn Undead is another example.  It is mostly a novelty because of scaling issues.


Also this.

I will simply acknowledge that every Sorcerer, Favord Soul, Warlock and Paladin in DDO will now be a lizard, and enjoy the OP Dragonborn goodness myself.

While simultaneously pretending I'm not playing anything resembling Dungeons and Dragons in the process.

As an aside, I'm 99% sure all my Dragonborn are going to wear that earring-bangle frill option.

The SSG Art Department: Single-handedly keeping DDO's lights on.™

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Lelouch wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
Yep, i have no idea what they were thinking when they made it.
They didnt think this update through at all from what ive seen on lama so far /although gear is mostly meh


Some of the heroic items look solid for a TR. And some of that may be going on soon. Actually I think I like the medium armor pretty well if you're going to use a zergbarian build for race past lives. Belt would be fine for anyone doing some healing.

Some of the epic items look fine for niche builds. Or for people who don't want to farm the fuck out of Slavers but still want to have 90% optimal items.

I'd say the gear doesn't add much power creep, but does add some options. As always, some is garbage.
  

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Seems there's a Dragonborn wiki now, added the link to the OP.
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I wonder what the slow effect from Constricting Breath stacks with.
  

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Reply #19 - Mar 9th, 2017 at 2:53am
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spathic wrote on Mar 8th, 2017 at 3:53pm:
Some of the heroic items look solid for a TR. And some of that may be going on soon. Actually I think I like the medium armor pretty well if you're going to use a zergbarian build for race past lives. Belt would be fine for anyone doing some healing.

Some of the epic items look fine for niche builds. Or for people who don't want to farm the fuck out of Slavers but still want to have 90% optimal items.

I'd say the gear doesn't add much power creep, but does add some options. As always, some is garbage.

Havent even looked into the heroic version of items, since new endgame will revolved around geting those 10 racial aps fast.
Will look into them on lama i guess, good call on that

// you were totally right, that gear for lv 10 is actually really strong. 77 spell power with 39 insight will take care of spellpower for lock/sorc (2 i plan to zerg with for racial plifes) from 10-20 and the ring and gloves give you a free litany at lv 10, totally didnt see how powerfull heroic version of gear  is
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Reply #20 - Mar 9th, 2017 at 6:11am
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Cannot believe that I actually like this shit. The only thing that bothers me (as well probably) is the human-ish body/walk/movement.
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m4lacka wrote on Mar 9th, 2017 at 6:11am:
The only thing that bothers me (as well probably) is the human-ish body/walk/movement.


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m4lacka wrote on Mar 9th, 2017 at 6:11am:
Cannot believe that I actually like this shit.

I feel your pain. I'm not proud of myself for liking it either.

m4lacka wrote on Mar 9th, 2017 at 6:11am:
The only thing that bothers me (as well probably) is the human-ish body/walk/movement.


I think the animations were specifically designed so that it wasn't OBVIOUSLY a re-skinned Warforged or Horc body, a la Bladeforged and PDK (PDK was particularly egregious, IMHO).

It (the body type) seems to split the difference between Human and WF, to my eye. Also, they had to do male and female bodies, unlike WF.

None of which will really matter, since it will be covered by armour 99% of the time and the head; the only thing that matters; looks great.

I also thought it was creative to recycle the TWF animation for their "bare-knuckles" combat animation.

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Metal-Beast wrote on Mar 9th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
Added u35 items to OP.

Huh.  Not a terrible robe for 10.
  

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