There is a thread on the motherboards where people are talking about "completely worthless enhancements".

One guy comments:
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Steel jumps in and responds to that:
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I find it funny that they just kept putting off Favored Soul, now suddenly it's: "LOL Nevermind! Artificer next!"

Personally, I'm ok with that. 




Now the question is: How many updates will they delay Artificer, before canning that, and moving onto another class?

SpaceGoat wrote on Mar 30^th, 2017 at 3:07pm:


The tree will be bumped up to mediocre at best.

That'd be neat, I wouldn't mind running more artificer lives...

we juggernauts again?

SpaceGoat wrote on Mar 30^th, 2017 at 3:07pm:


Since artificer is already a great choice for heroic reaper and racial past life running,  the pass will most likely screw that over completely.  That is how SSG rolls, after all.

Weird. Arties already got a pass. Rogue Mechanic.

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All of the upgrades have been Ap tree focused. Artificers power comes from spells and class abilities. Their ap trees are weak. So not likely unless they get penalties in their ap trees

SpaceGoat wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 10:50am:


I doubt it.  They don't understand shit about gameplay or design, so I doubt they have any insightful consideration to give pertaining to jack fuck.  Anything that happens when they release material is pure coincidence, good or bad.

If this pass includes an artificer oriented ED that could go a long way towards making them more epic playable.

I do think people will come around to playing artis more even without the pass. The AoE healing is useful in Reaper, boosts on scroll caster levels helps, plus the arti comes with a package of other abilities like traps, reasonable pew pew damage, weapon and group buffs etc. The versatility to fill a few roles is nice in the reapers I've run with one in the party.

Biggest problem for artis has been there are always a couple of classes or builds better than them at anything they do. They're a couple notches behind as casters and largely limited to electric damage, there are better ranged options, rogues usually are a better option on traps because of evasion, melee just isn't so hot, etc. They do tie with druids for least durable pet. That second or third best syndrome starts to cost them in epic or legendary levels when the margin for error gets tighter.

I have a guildie who will be thrilled with this, if it actually happens.

I've never played an Arty past 20, but he loves them.

And even *HE* complained about how gimp it was at epic levels.

So unless they:

• Return the borked OP Spell Power to ArcanoTechnician
• Add an ungodly amount of DPS and survivability to Battle Engineer
• Invent a 3rd class tree to make up for Harper being a better option than either of the above...

It will continue to be a gimped class that's main use is as a handy 1 or 2 level splash.

Which is BS, because it's p2p. (You have to pay either way: Buy the packs for favour to unlock or just buy it outright).

5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 6:00pm:


If they did this, they should remove the Crossbow specialization out of the Battle Engineer tree and add buffs for imbues.

ex.  Runearm imbues get Spell power.  Enchant weapons gives force damage affected by spell power.  Deadly gives Untyped damage affected by spell power.  Insightful strikes adds threat range.  Insightful Damage adds crit multi.

If only enhancement trees were like mobs. They'd give 'em death ward, add some insane number of hit points, and call it a day.

Metal-Beast wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 3:33pm:

Summoner would be fun. But they don't want to make something that solos the dungeon for you. I think that is their hesitation with making summons a thing. There isn't anything that can be summoned that isn't shitty. The summoned monster will not even be scaled to the quest. Useless system in DDO put it next to the many useless things we already have in this game.

One of the best ideas I have seen for arty is from Reveaulting. It had to do with how artificers should be artificers with items. Crazy, I know. Think of a tree that would be actively Improving dcs for clickies, lowering cooldowns, and generally making them powerful enough to be used. A lot of interesting clickies never get used or crafted due to the devs inability to balance anything correctly.