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Reply #600 - Feb 11th, 2022 at 10:05am
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noamineo wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 9:05pm:
Exact same difficulties as you, bruh. R1 most of the time, whatever the pugs are up to, whatever the raid is being run on, etc. I hope into R6 groups when I feel like it and do 2-3 when I want to mix things up. My shitty niche alt builds mostly run hard because they are shitty niche alt builds. I also do hard when it's a flagger and I just want to get it over with. As stated its pretty easy to get a good number of reaper points, I just don't give a shit because:

I think reaper is a stupid mechanic.


Not only are you a casual, but you're a limited casual. You play the game at the easiest level it's ever been, before reaper and epic levels. R10 Heroic = Elite back in the day.

Get gud, scrub. Get some wings and stop crying.
  

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Reply #601 - Feb 11th, 2022 at 11:26am
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 10th, 2022 at 6:41am:
He uses Bird attacks. Even if you do not use Falconry, Shadowdancer has a -5 prr mrr debuff for its epic strikes that uses assassin dc.

Force power is for dark imbue, but you want more than just one item for it.

This is the latest configuration I made for my pure shuri thrower. Carpone did all the leg work bringing you this.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c1pUmdeks-LsePtHwi4SzEet3tQICF09/edit

It abuses Cut the Strings as well as DI. Cut procs on every throw as does DI. It is the only build that can hit 5 stars every throw while fully bursting. Dark Imbue on that set up can hit as high as 62k on max rolls though not likely to max highroll it can still put out 50k+ bane procs and 20k sonic procs.

It has a dex trance, uses Ninja Spy capstone for sneak dice and +1 multiplier, gets +1 threat from halfling, and leverages 80 ranged power out of Horizon Walker. Giving it more damage than Ninja Spy tier 5 and its extra +1 threat.

Because procs and even Hunt's End do not use the extra threat range from Spy tier 5, HW is a much better ap split. Even when IPS'ing Misty Step provides a 30rp boost ( though I do not even take the IPS feat any longer as I rather just slap with full 20% damage and build AF stacks every hit ).

DI and Cut are getting nerfed soon, so play at your own risk


Fatesinger mantle + cut seems lame compared to Shiradi mantle + Inexorable. What am I missing there?

Instead of so many points in GMoF, why don't you put 20+ points in Shadowdancer for the shadow jump thing that gives you an extra DI cooldown? And grab the deception proc while you're at it.
  

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Reply #602 - Feb 11th, 2022 at 5:55pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 11th, 2022 at 11:26am:
Fatesinger mantle + cut seems lame compared to Shiradi mantle + Inexorable. What am I missing there?

Instead of so many points in GMoF, why don't you put 20+ points in Shadowdancer for the shadow jump thing that gives you an extra DI cooldown? And grab the deception proc while you're at it.

Need the mantle for Hymn 10rp. Cut is 5x more active than Inexorable. And ends up being used more often if facing raid bosses and not questing. Shiradi mantle is also way behind Cut over the 10 second duration against a red name when comparing 10k + cut vs 10k + shiradi mantle. And Just attacking with shiradi mantle vs no Cut is only slightly ahead but doesn't command the same burst on demand that Cut offers.

Tide is also better for raiding since it gives all dps 100sp and 10% weapon damage, which nets more dps than Inexorable on just myself. Fully boosting Cut + DI + Tide beats out Shiradi bursting. Fate can hit around 3.something second kobold times. Maybe if I get a really lucky string of procs then shiradi might get a faster burst, maybe, but I have not recorded a time with Shiradi that matches Fate yet.

From The Shadows is one of those looks good on paper. More useful in quests, but it only enables a 5 seconds more uptime of DI since shadowstrike is already 10 of every 15 seconds. But that 5 seconds is misleading

In raid pushes where positioning is crucial shadow dashing around becomes more of a hindrance and a AP sink. The build is already tied down with tumbling every 12 seconds. Trying to stealth and then Dash and then reposition will cost at least 2 seconds of attacks, at which point it nets 3 seconds of DI until shadowstrike comes off cooldown anyhow.

Still Shiradi mantle and From the Shadows can used in quests or low difficulty raids. You can even Hunt's End and use From The Shadows. It becomes a 20 second timer for Hunt in that case and not nearly as much uptime as that would seem to indicate because it is contingent on using the stealth dash.

I would also lose RP, + to damage, and DR breaking to grab a 3 second longer DI, while fucking up my positioning in a setting where anything one shots when pushing raids.

For trash shiradi mantle and from the shadows is good. As shiradi mantle spreads out the dps to more targets than Cut when attacking trash waves because cut really doesnt do anything against trash if you cannot land the DC. But against raid bosses you rather Cut every minute for massive sonic damage every throw (300 x spell power + 30% from sonic vulnerability).

  

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Reply #603 - Feb 12th, 2022 at 9:48am
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Okay, I think this is it.

Assuming swap to HW instead of Falcon so I can dump the Assassinate DC ring.

5 piece mist/3 piece wallwatch
Helm of the Final Watcher
Fleetfoot Necklace Dr LeRoux's Pacemaker Artifact
Echo of Ravenkind
Legendary Scarlet Scale Cloak
Legendary Vistani Fighter Sash
Ring of the Silver Tongue Ring Ravenloft Ring
Wildwood Gauntlets
The Shrouded Steps of the Beyond Legendary Sunken Slippers (w/ Quality Wisdom)
Slaver Ring (Wisdom/Tendon Slice/quality Dex)
Wildwood Bracers (w/ insightful Dex)
Van Richten's Spectacles
Legendary Wildwood Outfit
Epic Purifying Quiver
Complete Thunderforged Kama (Impulse, 35% Armor Piercing, Draconic Reinvigoration)
Salazar/Spite as appropriate

LOSE:
Wind thru the Trees
Insightful Deception Att/Dmg
Insightful Dodge (Should be dodge capped in reaper without this)
Quality Dodge (Should be dodge capped in reaper without this)
Enhanced Ghostly

GAIN:
Insightful Wisdom
Equipment Heal Amp
Exceptional Heal Amp
Quality Physical Sheltering
Quality Wisdom
Insightful Potency
Quality Potency
Quality Magic Sheltering
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Reply #604 - Feb 12th, 2022 at 2:10pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 9:48am:
Okay, I think this is it.

Assuming swap to HW instead of Falcon so I can dump the Assassinate DC ring.

5 piece mist/3 piece wallwatch
Helm of the Final Watcher
Fleetfoot Necklace Dr LeRoux's Pacemaker Artifact
Echo of Ravenkind
Legendary Scarlet Scale Cloak
Legendary Vistani Fighter Sash
Ring of the Silver Tongue Ring Ravenloft Ring
Wildwood Gauntlets
The Shrouded Steps of the Beyond Legendary Sunken Slippers (w/ Quality Wisdom)
Slaver Ring (Wisdom/Tendon Slice/quality Dex)
Wildwood Bracers (w/ insightful Dex)
Van Richten's Spectacles
Legendary Wildwood Outfit
Epic Purifying Quiver
Complete Thunderforged Kama (Impulse, 35% Armor Piercing, Draconic Reinvigoration)
Salazar/Spite as appropriate

LOSE:
Wind thru the Trees
Insightful Deception Att/Dmg
Insightful Dodge (Should be dodge capped in reaper without this)
Quality Dodge (Should be dodge capped in reaper without this)
Enhanced Ghostly

GAIN:
Insightful Wisdom
Equipment Heal Amp
Exceptional Heal Amp
Quality Physical Sheltering
Quality Wisdom
Insightful Potency
Quality Potency
Quality Magic Sheltering

Where's your Insightful Wisdom?

I see you gained Quality Wisdom with the Legendary Sunken Slippers.

EDIT: Nevermind...Dr. LeRoux's Curious Implant.
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Reply #605 - Feb 12th, 2022 at 2:21pm
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Where's your Insightful Wisdom?

I see you gained Quality Wisdom with the Legendary Sunken Slippers.


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Reply #606 - Feb 12th, 2022 at 10:47pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 2:21pm:
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Ok, where's your +6 Insightful CON item?
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Reply #607 - Feb 12th, 2022 at 11:56pm
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Standing Stone Games wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 10:47pm:
Ok, where's your +6 Insightful CON item?


I've got +3 quality and a +5 insightful augment.
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Reply #608 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 12:29am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 11:56pm:
I've got +3 exceptional and a +5 insightful augment.


No +2 Festive?
  

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Reply #609 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 1:21am
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The point of my recent posts is to figure out which gear to use, not to list every damn augment. Noting what augments there are is only helpful insofar as they make gear redundant.

And by the way, I messed it up. Wildwood Wrists is regular Dex, not Insightful Dex.  Angry

  

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Reply #610 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 7:25am
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Ravenloft bracers back in style. Could settle for an insightful dex augment and do something like bound elemental ring of acid. Or Legendary Tumbleweed and rejigger around that. Maybe Legendary Rockslide and pick up a spring bonus...
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Reply #611 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 10:34am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 12th, 2022 at 11:56pm:
I've got +3 exceptional and a +5 insightful augment.


+3 Exceptional?

You can get +2 Exceptional from LGS, I believe. Where are you getting a +3??
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Standing Stone Games wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 10:34am:
+3 Exceptional???

He meant quality.

If you have raid gear then you can use this set for questing :

Helm Watcher- Seeker/Accuracy/Insightful doubleshot/Quality deadly. Augments : Festive dex/Quickblade.
Perfected Golden Guilde- Improved deception/Dexterity 14/Exceptional alluring and nimble skills/Enhanced ghostly/Psychic ward. Augments ; Natural armor/Quickblade/Quickdraw.
Tinkerer's Goggles- Intelligence 13/Insightful deception/Quality deception. Augments : False life/Ranged power 10
Gem of many facets- Magnetism/Resonance/Insightful resonance. Augment : Dark diversion
Red dragon armor- Fire resistance. Augments : Touch of power/Perform
Marshreed cloak- Insightful int 6/Assassintae 15. Augments : Cracked core/Draconic.
Bracers of deftness- Mobility/Dodge. Augments : Festive con/Insightful con.
Slaver belt- Wisdom/Armor pierce/Spellcraft/Quality con. Augment : Quickblade.
Tumbleweed- Ins dex/Accuracy/Deadly. Augments : Globe/Defense.
Omniscience- Shield/Resistance/Riposte/Fortification. Augments : Healing amp/Swiftness.
Slavers boots- Con/Deception/Tendon slice/Quality wisdom. Augments : Touch of power.
Tinkerer's gloves- Quality dex/Insightful seeker/Quality seeker. Augments : Protection/Ins wis.
Kama/Short sword cannith crafted - Impulse/Insightful impulse/Insightful assassinate. Augments : Touch of power/Festive wisdom.
Weapon : Deconstructor/8d6 Acid
Quiver : 8 doubleshot

Has quality and artifact Dex + Con. 30 Artifact prr. 80 mrr cap. And a stupid amount of spellpower. 

If you are raid pushing then Carpone has a set like this where he has slavers 3 piece for artifact deadly +2, and the Acid proc ring from LoB. He should be updating his guide soon with his raid gear set up posted.

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Reply #613 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 1:24pm
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I didn't think the red dragon robe would be worth it after the magma nerf.
  

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Reply #614 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 10:29pm
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Red armor is around 3k proc on a 5 doubleshot throw. Still the best option for robes even on a one second ICD. More damage if someone gets ash/ooze/vacuum, or other mrr and fire vulnerability up.

But that entire gear set has to go once the Cut and imbue nerfs and fix go live. The gear will be updated when all that goes live. I don't like Adherent because it limits set augments and it takes the cloak spot up which is the most important slot for spell absorb. I have an adherent set up without the cloak, but it cannot slot quality wisdom, and needs to augment fortification. But it has Q and Artifact Dex + perfected artifact.

Legendary Flightfoot Greaves Boots       

    Freedom of Movement
    Speed +30%
    Natural Armor +13
    Reflex Save +10
    Yellow Augment Slot: Empty

Legendary Vistani Fighter's Sash Belt       

    Stunning +15
    Vertigo +15
    Vitality +44
    Deadly +10
    Yellow Augment Slot:

Legendary Bracers of the Fallen Hero Bracers       

    Strength +13
    Insightful Constitution +6
    Stunning +15
    Quality Physical Sheltering +8
    Green Augment Slot: Empty

ring x2
Legendary Cursebane Ring      Ring       

    Insightful Curse Resistance +4
    Vitality +44
    Quality Magical Sheltering +8
    Deathblock
    Green Augment Slot: Empty

Legendary Perfect Pinnacle      Ring       

    Greater Reinforced Fists
    Stunning +15
        Beyond the Soul of Flame blind + fear
        Beyond the Soul of Tide trip
    Yellow Augment Slot: Empty

neck Perfect Guile 14dex/imp dec/3 slots quickblade set
eyes + glove tinker set fort bypass/rp. ins/q seeker, deception, 2 slots
helm watch acc/seeker/q dead/ins ds/2 slot quickblade set
armor RDA 2 slots quickblade set
cloak strahd - deception/mrr. augments : 2 slots
trinket Gem assassin/armor pierce/ins assassin/ 1 slot/ vulkoor chosen
offhand sting sneak, dex, con, saves +3 set/red slot
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Reply #615 - Feb 14th, 2022 at 2:35am
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Where do you get the ranged power augment?
  

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But that entire gear set has to go once the Cut and imbue nerfs and fix go live.


What's the neft/fix?
  
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Reply #617 - Feb 14th, 2022 at 3:10pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 14th, 2022 at 2:35am:
Where do you get the ranged power augment?

It's a random drop. I do see them in the Shard AH occasionally, though.

They will be added to at least one of the new augment vendors when Update 53 comes out so maybe wait a week or two before getting one from the AH.
  

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Reply #618 - Feb 14th, 2022 at 3:19pm
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It's a random drop. I do see them in the Shard AH occasionally, though.

They will be added to at least one of the new augment vendors when Update 53 comes out so maybe wait a week or two before getting one from the AH.


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Is there any information about these new augment vendors available?

Yes. Check out the latest Lamannia Release Notes.  https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/530027-U53-Preview-2-Hunter-and-Hunted

I believe Lynnabel also made a post on the DDO Forums about the name of the new vendor and where to find him.

EDIT: Yeah, here's Lynn's post:  https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/530027-U53-Preview-2-Hunter-and-Hunted...
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What's the neft/fix?


Don't actually know the full extent but expect dark imbue to not scale as spellpower x rp. And Cut will have an ICD so shiradis cant deal 5-6 million damage in 10 seconds.
  

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Reply #621 - Feb 14th, 2022 at 3:50pm
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Yes. Check out the latest Lamannia Release Notes.  https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/530027-U53-Preview-2-Hunter-and-Hunted

I believe Lynnabel also made a post on the DDO Forums about the name of the new vendor and where to find him.

EDIT: Yeah, here's Lynn's post:  https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/530027-U53-Preview-2-Hunter-and-Hunted...


Ok, looks like itll be ings/remnants. I like it.
  

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Reply #622 - Feb 14th, 2022 at 5:12pm
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Ying claims 30 SA dice (and 35 boosted)but gives no breakdown.

5 from NS capstone
4 from NS sneak attack training
3 from SD cores
3 from SD dance in the dark
6 from scion of ethereal
1 from treachery filigree
2 from shadowstrike filigree
3 from halfling guile
3 artifact from a set bonus

presumably the +5 boost means NS diversion

Does that look right?

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BTW, I tested out Legendary Jidz, and it does not give +5 sneak attack dice in air stance like the description says. It gives +5 to hit and damage for sneak attacks.
  

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Reply #623 - Feb 14th, 2022 at 5:47pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 14th, 2022 at 5:12pm:
BTW, I tested out Legendary Jidz, and it does not give +5 sneak attack dice in air stance like the description says. It gives +5 to hit and damage for sneak attacks.

How about the Perfected version?

BTW...the Legendary (and Perfected) version says it's an Insight bonus to sneak attack dice. Are you sure you're not getting an Insight bonus to the number of Sneak Attack dice from somewhere else?
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Reply #624 - Feb 14th, 2022 at 6:42pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 14th, 2022 at 5:12pm:
presumably the +5 boost means NS diversion

Does that look right?

Yes, sir.

Standing Stone Games wrote on Feb 14th, 2022 at 5:47pm:
How about the Perfected version?

Same 5 to hit and damage to sneak attacks.

Standing Stone Games wrote on Feb 14th, 2022 at 5:47pm:
Are you sure you're not getting an Insight bonus to the number of Sneak Attack dice from somewhere else? 

Not sure I know of an insightful bonus to sneak dice.
  

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