Greetings,

We are working on a Divine pass, but for this pass instead of solely focusing on class trees we wanted to update the base classes. Although we think Cleric is behind Favored Souls a bit, we also wanted to give Favored Souls - as part of their base class - some improvements that would add some quality of life changes. These are the changes to the base class of the Favored Soul that we are looking at.

Favor Soul
Base Class Changes

~ Favored Soul now uses the higher base ability score if Charisma or Wisdom for spellcasting. This includes DC calculations, Spell Point calculations, spell memorization, and checks to see whether you can cast the spell.

~ Your Energy Resistance becomes Energy Absorption to better scale at high levels.

~ At level 2 you choose Charisma or Wisdom. You use this ability score for your to hit and damage with your Favored Weapon. This ability only functions if at least half your character levels are Favored Soul.

~ At level 6, Favored Souls can choose one of the following bonuses:
• You gain 10 hit points per Favored Soul level. You also gain 10 Hit Points for each epic level you have gained.
• You gain 20 spell points per Favored Soul level. You also gain 30 Spell Points for each epic level you have gained.

Some design notes.

Our first iteration had Favored Soul choosing Wisdom or Charisma for hit and damage with their Favored Weapon at level 14. This cut down on splashes and was meant to support FvS melee builds. The problem we had is we don't want a player to have to have a bad experience for 13 levels before they could play their "real" build. Moving the bonus to lower levels just made it more and more of a splash ability rather than a Favored Soul core ability. The solution rewards people who are mostly Favored Soul, but gives a smooth experience while leveling.

Sev~

I predict many 14 fvs/6monk Elven AA monkchers. Now you only need enough dex for the feats, and can max wis and dump all other stats. Extra hp makes up for Elven Con penalty, or you could go Helf and look derpy.

Hell even a pure FVS Elven AA would work well.

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This would have been OP in my opinion, and would make "WhyTF should I roll a Cleric?" a thing (again).

Remember, that casting speed bonus applies to their Heals as well, which is really stepping on a Clerics toes, especially when you add a much deeper SP pool and SLAs.

But people are acting like it will be OP. 

  In theory you can get 110+ sustained wisdom

http://ddowiki.com/page/Wisdom

Theoretical Max wisdom is even higher than that for a non-caster.  This is as of U35.  It does not include the Racial Completionist feat or a +18 Wis from the Legendary Chieftain's ring.  It could be 3 higher. 

The wiki's use of "sustainable" is really reaching.

+2 DDO store pots = nope, you either run out of TP and/or have to spend real $$ to keep "sustaining" that.
+2 Competence (Bard Inspire Excellence song) = the class split they listed had no bard = nope, no guarantee you're always going to be grouped with a bard.
+8 Insightful(Item, Random loot) = Sure if you win the RNG loot lotto which is not likely without it being a complete crap item on the other effects.  Reality says this is +7 from CC instead.
+4 Epic Feat (Great Ability x4) = sure but it would be a net loss given what you could gain from other epic feats instead.
+5 Twists (+3 twisted in from EDs, +1 twisted in from Epic Completionist bonus +1 Twisted in with Level 30 bonus Twist) = same as the Epic feats option.  Yes, you could, but it would be stupid given what you can gain from other twists instead.

So in reality, without just doing a MOAR WISDOM!!1!! retard build, you're looking at something along the lines of 100-102 sustained I think.   That's still pretty decent.

Fran, I think you clicked on the wrong thread by mistake.   The one you are looking for is here:  http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1501716863

On the off chance it wasn't a mistake though, does the answer really matter?  You'll just argue against whatever answer you're given and then continue bitching about how doing things the hard way is hard.


P.S.  Plenty of people stay at cap and run raids, 10-skull reaper, etc.   If you can't find people to group with at lvl 30, I don't think it's because there aren't level 30 people running missions.  You do have a particular reputation after all.

I have had one toon or another at cap for the vast majority of the past 4 years.  I keep one capped specifically to run raids, help guildies, farm loot, etc.  I have rarely ever had a problem finding a group or posting an LFM and having people join my missions.