Digimonk wrote on Jan 30^th, 2018 at 1:47am:


Let me try this slowly.

Other people aren't you (shocking, right?).
Other people don't do the same things as you.
Other people aren't willing to put the same amount of effort into a stupid fucking game as you are.

Yes, technically - if you have the resources and the know-how and you're starting from scratch, scripting would be the way to go and produce the best yield.

But for other non-you people (which are the majority, there are far more non-you people than you.  I know, shocking) when you look at amount of effort vs gain, your method requires far more work and resources than just casual farming.

If I needed, or even wanted, thousands of uncommon collectables, yes, I would probably go scripting.  I don't and I don't.  Once in a blue moon, I need like 5.  Maybe 10.  I put a little effort into making a farmer, but I could easily farm them with an existing toon, when needed, with far less effort and time than creating the system you propose.

Or, which is most often the case, when I have an undetermined amount of play time (usually around 5-15 minutes while waiting for my wife) I pop over and do some farming since I really don't have time to do much of anything else, which keeps my stocks full and keeps me in shards.

So if you want to make a hard-core farmers guide, have at it and I wish you the best of luck.  I made this to help out the non-you players cut down on their grind without having to duel box.

If you're happy with your system, rock on.  Believe it or not, when I made this I wasn't think "man, I sure hope this helps out that Digimonk guy." 

If you still seek attention over something so fucking trivial, I suggest getting a puppy for approval.  Your Barcelot level obsession with this topic has long since gotten boring.

Can anyone post or upload an example of one of these basic scripts? Doesn’t have to be a full one, maybe just for one quest so I can learn

5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 30^th, 2018 at 12:24pm:


The script really isn't the issue at all really, it's all the other resources involved.

Two biggest factors are getting a second account up and running.  Price isn't an issue at all, it's basic principle.  I absolutely refuse to give turbine a single cent more than I have to and I seriously find duel boxing boring as snot.  I tried it for a few days and quickly lost interest years ago.

How many packs and races/classes would you have to unlock to make a decent farmer?  If the answer is one or more, it's more effort than I want to put into grinding out the ddo points

My work computers/system/lines could obviously handle it, but it's not like I'm in the IT department - and it really doesn't matter that the IT department works for me, it's unprofessional as hell.  "Hey guys, my hobby is playing this stupid on line game, which one of our computers can I download it on so I can farm some gay and retarded collectables?"  No, that's not going to happen.

Which leaves my crappy "recently industrialized country" home line which can handle one connection just fine, but a second simultaneous connection of an online game is going to throw me off line within an hour tops.  I can AFK farm one thing at a time and that's either going to be XP, rems, or tokens - collectables are really the easiest of the 4 to rack up, so it's an obvious choice.

Had I done more with my dummy account years ago when I was still state side and had a more functional second account, yeah, I'd probably occasionally alternate and do some farming with it while I'm showering instead of grabbing two tokens of the 12 in the same time period, but I didn't and I don't, so see the number 1 reason again to why I have no interest in putting the effort in to creating a dummy account

Skoodge wrote on Jan 30^th, 2018 at 3:33pm:

For fuck's sake, run it on your main account while you're doing non-computer stuff if that's the case you mule-headed schmuck.  Why do people even need to tell you this? 

You're just like Fran.  You post some stupid stuff and when people offer you advice on a better way, all you do is make excuse after excuse on why you can't/won't do it.

If you'd spent all the time you spent bitching and moaning and making excuses on these boards and the time you spent writing an *optimal* guide for doing this the hard way, you could have easily taught yourself how to use AHK, written a few scripts and never had to worry about manually farming collectibles again.

But you go ahead and do it your way.  I should have known better than to try and help.  Silly me.


P.S.  Being able to use some form of basic scripting, like having an alt account, has a lot more long-term benefits than just gathering collectibles and is useful for far more than just DDO.

Tip: don't use the in-game screen cap tool for image search stock.  That drove me nuts for a good hour the first script I tried.

Skoodge wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 6:35am:

I did read that part.  I was trying to be nice and not point out how stupid that statement was.  Since you can't leave well enough alone so here it goes.

You think running actual missions to farm 20 tokens for a TR is harder and/or more boring than cycling instances for collectibles hundreds of times?  Really?  20 easy mission completions with all the relevant XP, potential loot, etc. vs mindlessly cycling instances several hundred times?  It's pretty clear which one is more beneficial and fun and which one should be scripted. 

Mysterious Rems?  Even easier to get in sufficient quantities by just running missions than tokens.   You literally get thousands of them just running missions normally with no special effort towards rems.

If you think getting tokens for TRs and mysterious rems is hard, your priorities and difficulty assessments are retarded.

It's obvious at this point that, like Fran, all the advice in the world won't help you, so good luck and happy manual instance cycling.

5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:08am:


I totally get there's been a lot of players on the field in this very long, mostly pointless game (I.E. a ton of text) but the goal post was never there.

The goal post was (and still is) "setting up an alt for farming vs using resources that have already been invested in." 

5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:08am:


I didn't say that either (get some sports binoculars ).  I'm not scripting at all.  Just plopping an auralock (you know, that thing you suggested I do as an answer for almost every question I've asked farming wise over the last 6 months) to farm things that take longer to farm than collectables.

So to try and summarize so we're on the same page - the issues on the table at this point are:

Making an alt account to script farm with vs using your main - and I went into great detail that had I stuck with it years ago, yeah, an alt would be the most efficient method.  I didn't and at this point it just isn't worth the time investment.

And manually farming collectables and AFK farming other things (rems, XP, Tokens) on a main account vs using the same account to script farm collectables.

Second point I stand by my argument.  I can keep my collectables where I need them by just throwing 5 or 10 minutes at it here and there.  I can grab 10 plus needed uncommons in ten minutes.

Now try and tell me you can rack up as many rems, as much XP or even tokens in that same 10 minutes. 

5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:08am:


Maybe you're not married, but what do you do with uncertain amounts of time with the game as they come up?

I can only say this so many times, that's really all the investment I have to put into it at this point.  Wife's on her way but because of traffic she can be home in 5 minutes or 15 minutes.  Depending on the level the toon I'm running is at the time, usually not enough time to safely run quests, so I pop over to my farmer and rack up some collectables while waiting.  After that, I can drop it in a quest to farm something else while I'm AFK.

Skoodge wrote on Jan 30^th, 2018 at 3:33pm:

Congrats on showering more often now.

It is nice that computers mostly don't have olfactory interfaces.



Digimonk wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:51pm:

I tried AHK for my shower, but Toke is right; the screen grab is really finicky. Have resorted to manual grinding, and I gotta say, there's really something to the organic feel.

Digimonk wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 12:15am:

No need for modesty. If you have clients, I'm sure it's more than a few pixels.

Has anyone noticed any weirdness lately with certain collectibles not dropping?

My go to place for ornate charms is epic casual taven brawl. Drop down and grab the node under the stairs, recall out. Quick and easy.

I seem to remember getting an ornate charm every 3-5 runs doing that. However I did about 15 runs over the last few days and got ZERO.

Bad luck, or have they changed something? (or fucked something up more likely)

Digimonk wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 4:24pm:



Thanks. Must be just a run of bad luck on them. I've always had a pretty good rate of ornate charms at that node, one of the very few collectibles I actively have to  farm for,  my good luck must have run out!   

Carpone wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 12:53pm:

DDO's entire codebase is nothing but pile of unintended consequences at this point.  And it's largley thanks to the devs' piss poor ongoing maintenance practices and years of doing the bare minimum required to slap a bandaid on any semi-difficult problem to cover it up and move on as quickly as possible.