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More Monks nerfs
Mar 21st, 2018 at 9:54am
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"We're likely to pull down the Melee Power in the 5th and 6th Core of Shintao before this goes Live, which will pull most Handwrap builds back toward the relative position compared to Staff builds it's presently at while also pulling Wrap builds closer to other high-end TWF builds. "

I'm sitting at work with such a bulging erection I can't close my eyes do to lack of skin.

I'm also looking forward to the videos of R5 baba with 10 bears in it.
  
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Reply #1 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 10:08am
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This is a terrible day for Monks everywhere. I'm so sad for them.
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 10:39am
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I to am excited beating down bloated hp r10 bosses will take longer!
  

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what the fuck guys...

Jeesus fucking shit. This shit gets me called to the principals office.

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Cripey wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 10:39am:
I to am excited beating down bloated hp r10 bosses will take longer!



Bears, unless they "fix" them in the next preveiw.
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 11:55am
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Bigjunk wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 11:14am:
Bears, unless they "fix" them in the next preveiw.


You must have found some sort of magical splash build.

Granted I wasn't thinking outside the 18 druid box when I was messing with bear stuff, reporting actual bugs/glitches/etc.

That being said; I found some superstar interactions that I hinted at and even reported in my various posts. We'll see what they picked up on with round 2.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 12:32pm
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Go back to the original responses to the druid pass changes and all the shitting on things without actually taking the time to analyze and test.

It's like people have never been thru this cycle before.
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 12:40pm
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Asheras wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 12:32pm:
Go back to the original responses to the druid pass changes and all the shitting on things without actually taking the time to analyze and test.

It's like people have never been thru this cycle before.   


I shit on things appropriately before hand. I tempered my resolve to see things through when they got to Lamannia. For the most part I felt pretty validated on my original feedback. A lot of things such as the melee-power scaling effects are absolute shite. The last second nerf to glancing blows was unnecessary as well... And topkek at fucking Bear stance blocking me from glancing blows.

That being said; I'm willing to give them the opportunity to actually make improvements by round 2. Shit they might even manage to pull a 180 and bring bears up to snuff. Wolves though? Wolves are DoA.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 12:48pm
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So what? It will be fun for everyone to play bears for a minute.

Keeps the game new and fresh to nerf stuff from space and bring up useless other stuff. Monks have had an awesome run for many years off and on in this game.

Bears?

Not even once.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 3:08pm
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Spill the Bear love. I've been theory-crafting a bit and I have yet to come up with an intriguing bear.
  
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RolyPoly wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 3:08pm:
Spill the Bear love.


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Asheras wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 12:32pm:
Go back to the original responses to the druid pass changes and all the shitting on things without actually taking the time to analyze and test.

It's like people have never been thru this cycle before.   

the first preview was much worse than the second one.
  

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Reply #12 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:57pm
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18/2 fighter or pure rangers looks good.
  
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18/2 fighter or pure rangers looks good.


18/2 i sgarbage cuz no prowess
  
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Reply #14 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 9:24pm
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Sergod wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 9:20pm:
18/2 i sgarbage cuz no prowess


They really need to fix that shit.
  
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 12:48pm:
Bears?

Not even once.

Is capitalist conspiracy.
  
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Sergod wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 9:20pm:
18/2 i sgarbage cuz no prowess


Bigjunk wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 9:24pm:
They really need to fix that shit.


There is that, totally forgot. And the worse is they think it's way, according to a dev post.
  
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Reply #17 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 10:01pm
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I just started playing again and they are going to nerf my class? another two year vacation lurks around the corner.
  

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Reply #18 - Mar 22nd, 2018 at 6:00am
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Depending on whether or not they fix Big Bear (the tremor effect) to actually scale at a good rate with melee power, I'm thinking 18 druid/1 bard/1 barb. Grab the low hanging rage fruit, take blow by blow and rough and ready, and spend the majority of my actual points in Vistani after I grab whatever bear parts I want.

Assuming Vistani is WAI and whether or not the devs fix Single Dagger, you're better off slapping on Slice'n'Dice and get the extra bonuses for a net of 20% offhand and glancing blows.

This build gives you the most 'versatile' platform in epics, depending on whether or not you've got all of your EPLs knocked out. With the melee power boost to Fatesinger and Reign, you'll do some decent numbers this way. Obviously you want to run Fury if primal. And honestly I'm thinking Shadowdancer bear might be hilarious and stronger than Dreadnaught bear.
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Reply #19 - Mar 22nd, 2018 at 6:01am
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Did anyone else find it hilarious that Rapid Attack (T1) doesn't work with animal forms but Blessed Blades (T5) does? Given Rapid Attack doesn't have an animation associated with it, something tells me this was an intentional doublestrike related nerf much like removing doublestrike from Natural Fighting.
  
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Reply #21 - Mar 22nd, 2018 at 8:49am
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Epoch wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 10:01pm:
I just started playing again and they are going to nerf my class? another two year vacation lurks around the corner.


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But our aim is getting better!
  
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Reply #23 - Mar 22nd, 2018 at 11:39am
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The best part is that the idiots still think Henshin are the highest DPS stick builds.  It's like they're trying to confirm they really don't know how to play their game. 

They actually think Henshin stick builds are overpowered compared to other melee builds and still need to be nerfed even if not as much as Shintao.  The good news is the risk involved in pissing off that demograhphic is pretty low.   It won't be a big loss if all 5 Henshin staff players quit.

It's as if they've never seen a proper Silvanus maul build, a tempest ranger, a DPS/SA spec'd TWF rogue, or a good Kensai SWF/TWF/THF, all of which roflstomp a pure Henshin staff build in DPS.  From eyeballing it, I'm pretty sure a Kensai quarterstaff build would out damage a Henshin. 

Kensai get an average of +45 melee power, better and more action boosts (Haste), +21% doublestrike, better +Dmg, the same bonuses to crit profiles, and far better activated attacks.  Even better would be to drop the capstone and splash 2 rogue for Thief Acrobatics (15% stacking attack speed) + Quick Strike (25% doublestrike bonus 10 of every 12s), higher stats and maybe a couple SA die.  Oh, and ITEM DEFENSE, which is a huge QoL bump on a quarterstaff build.  Why did Henshin not get Item Defense on the last Henshin update pass?

Kensai can also use heavy armor with the Stalwart Defense stance bonuses for more HPs and durability while in melee range.  If you go the 2 rogue splash route,  you also get xp bonus from trapping.

They should just pay a few of the builders on these forums to build and do DPS testing for them and balance based on that.  Hell, they could probably *pay* with free VIP subs or DP and enough people would do it to make it far better than the train wreck their current testing is.
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Reply #24 - Mar 22nd, 2018 at 11:48am
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Digimonk wrote on Mar 22nd, 2018 at 11:39am:
It's like they're trying to confirm that they really don't know how to play their own game.

No confirmation needed!
  

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