GreyMouser wrote on Apr 13^th, 2013 at 12:19pm:


I will ask that as things solidify decision wise, it's made more clear than in the past what aspects are locked down, and when, so we can move on from those debates. (In an ideal world, a 1 week heads up on what aspects are about to go into lockdown would be preferable, but we both know that never really happens in practice.)

GreyMouser wrote on Apr 13^th, 2013 at 12:19pm:


dear unofficial person,

It's great you brought this out in early alpha, it's the right thing to do. Just don't let the marketdroids push it in until it's done - I can see that some stuff I'm expecting has moved to feats / etc. It will all take time to digest.

Although please kick Pando up the bun k thanks

By the way maj, when you do get around to knocking out the pure vs multiclassing surveys, I'd strongly recommend including whether folks would consider advising others to use given splits on a 28/32/34/36 basis, and what past lives they view as 'mandatory' to keep up and why.

screw NCSoft.

long live City of Heroes.

I'm quite happy at Turbine.

GreyMouser wrote on Apr 13^th, 2013 at 12:19pm:

Not real happy with the loss of 1d6 of sneak damage on the Half-Elf Rogue dilly tree. Instead, we get +2 to hit on sneak attacks (BFD) and +2d6 sneak damage.

I'd post this on one of the feedback threads on the DDO Forums but, well...

I actually like that idea Flav currently I just don't see how this new system will work without me having to TR and LR a lot of my alts If its an UI thing incorporate the new UI and let us keep our enhancements the way Flav said.

Ok, back from rockhounding, and I had time to play with photoshop :



That's the current live Radiant Servant Tree.

At the bottom you have from Left to Right : Improved Healing, Divine Vitality, Life Magic, Prayer of Life.

Prayer of Incredible life is at level 1.
Stat Bonus ( Charisma ) is at Level 3

At top from Left to Right : Improved Turning, Radiant Servant I, Radiant Servant II.

It's not THAT difficult to make a tree out of what we already have.

Going to post it on the main forum too.

stainer wrote on Apr 13^th, 2013 at 9:59pm:


That has been mentioned...but Crisis has another meaning...  urbandictionary.com

GreyMouser wrote on Apr 14^th, 2013 at 9:26am:


Whole new meaning to "bukkake barbarians".

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Dear Azog:

Please be advised that you have violated The Vault's P&R Sequestration Policy. Please remember to refrain from discussing such topics outside of the designated area....

***wait...what's that?...just ragging on the Frogs?...nothing to see here...please proceed...***

Hey, Maj, I'd really like to believe you. You seem like a great guy, but we all know the decisions are made higher up the food chain. We've all seen dev's pet projects go to live in spite of overwhelming hatred from the playerbase, often for dubious reasons. I am still enjoying my lag free play from the TWF change a few years ago, for instance, and that new Cloak of Ice? Feather_of_Sucking awesome.

For all the claims of "early alpha" I just don't see the dev team as being willing or capable of considering substantive change at this time, let alone implementing it. The comments made so far indicate that all we can expect is slight changes to costs, but I strongly doubt that the overall direction or focus is going to be changed, particularly the insane 42-46AP investment to gain skills that are pretty cheap on live at level 12, the lock-in to a single tree, and the useless options that just take up space.

The many missing prestiges for the ToD sets, and everything else? Never going to happen. The cleric trees are pathetic, and moving spellpower from cheap enhancements over to expensive skill points is sheer lunacy. Making Heal and Repair relevant should involve a carrot, not a stick (or nerfbat). The new Spellcraft skill is just the cherry on top, because I already struggled spending my measly few skill points per level on useful stuff like concentration, UMD, balance, or diplomacy.

If this steaming turd represents a year of solid focus by the dev team following four years of promises, well, I for one don't see much hope for it getting better in the months before it hits live.

Go ahead, surprise me. I'll be watching off and on for the next few weeks, as I don't expect dramatic change tomorrow, or until after you've done the first pass for each class. But I'll eat my shorts* if this pass delivers even on half of the dev promises about enhancements over the past four years and more.

I haven't run a quest this weekend or even logged in today. That is ... highly unusual.... for me. Doubt I will tomorrow either. I should run through my stable of characters sometime this week to clean out my mail and prepare them for a longer absence, who knows.

Perhaps this malaise will pass, and I'll be back in the saddle, running my favourite characters next weekend without worrying about the looming pigeonholing. Maybe Khyber will freeze over, and Glin and the other decision makers will step up and make some commitments. Giving you a unilateral veto over when this hits live would be a good first step, as would hiring someone like that guy who did the Bard ED. From what I recall, he did an amazing job at soliciting feedback on the forums, listening to it, and getting shit done. You haven't got anyone left like that on the dev team. Maybe the QA side (squeak seems good), but not the devs.

Dunno. I'm not ready to post a ragequit, or a sadquit, but the more I think about this, the more disappointed I get. I'm going for a bike ride. 

*go ahead, make me buy some edible underwear. I triple dog dare you.

Dooooooom!!!!!!

Geez.  People are going ape shit.  How many times does this need to happen and then find out that it's really not the end of the world for Chicken Little to quit screaming and crying about how the sky is falling?

I remember the wailing over F2P.  I remember the wailing over the tempest changes.  I remember the AC changes wailing.  The spellpower change wailing.  The tomes in the store wailing.  The FvS losing unlimited winging.  And on and on and on. 

It's an MMO people.  Change happens.  I have favorite builds from 4 years ago that were sweet and well geared and owned all the content.  Then level caps went up.  Epics showed up.  New gear came in.  Changes were made.  The builds I had sucked.  I changed and found new ones.  I like them just as much if not better now.

With the new stuff, sure what you have been doing might not work anymore.  But this is also opening up new possibilities.  1 week in with 1% of the population looking at 1/3rd of the possibly available features with the devs admitting that it's not all done yet and some things (haste boost) are still coming and people are sure it is a definite pile of shit and thinking about quitting the game.  Unreal.

Do you people understand what ALPHA phase means in development terms?  FFS.  People are getting demoralized 1 week into ALPHA review of something that won't be live for months to come? 

Calm the fuck down people.  This is not the time to panic.

Asheras wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 11:04am:


Those changes (aside from F2P) were very minor. They affected very very very small portions of the population. EVERY character is going to be affected by this change. Unless people decide to forego enhancements completely, LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE GAME WORLD will be affected by the changes to enhancements. So yes, it's kind of a big deal.

And if you've been around for any amount of time, you know just how well Turbine deals with changing things based on player feedback. You know how often buggy horrible shitty stuff gets put into the game after dozens of bug reports and hundreds of forum posts. Breca was the only dev I ever saw take advice and change stuff based on feedback. And guess what? Breca got shitcanned. So we're left with Varg and MF and Eladrin. Has MF even made an appearance anytime lately?