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U18 tomorrow
May 21st, 2013 at 11:46pm
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https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/416928-Scheduled-Server-Downtime-7-00-...

I glance at new posts every day or two to see if the dev tracker will return, or whether the devs will emerge from the cone of silence that dropped at the same time as the enhancement pass "alpha".

U18 - two F2P, one P2P (for suckers who buy expansion 2). From Cordo:

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"Stuff you'll hear about tomorrow related to the expansion, the Disciples of Shadow quests, a new cosmetic bibs system, skill tomes, an invisibility fix, elixirs of healing (heal over time potions), quest fixes (including a fix for seals and shards in the Web of Chaos) and more. We'll have full release notes tomorrow. "


Later on, he states that elixirs of healing are not store only. I haven't interpreted much TurbineNewSpeak lately or visited Lama, so I don't know what that means: can anyone just buy them from a potion vendor, are they are a favor unlocked item, a rare collectable turn-in item, or are they  just like other store-only items (eg, mummy elixir) that drop in chests once in a blue moon.
  

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Re: U18 tomorrow
Reply #1 - May 22nd, 2013 at 12:26am
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Totally uninteresting.  The quest chain is heroic only (and terrible XP), so it'll get run once for favor and flagging and that's it.  Unless they're going to make the heroic loot comparable to epic loot, this update is a complete waste of time :/
  
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Reply #2 - May 22nd, 2013 at 12:41am
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Bladeforged hopefully.
  

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Reply #3 - May 22nd, 2013 at 2:32am
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More than just this update is a complete waste of time over in the Turbine camp these days...
  

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Re: U18 tomorrow
Reply #4 - May 22nd, 2013 at 3:09am
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bladeforged just happened to be on preview on Lama at the same time as u18, but they are supposed to be included in the expansion.
  
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Re: U18 tomorrow
Reply #5 - May 22nd, 2013 at 3:21am
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As for the elixirs of healing, they are already in game ( Dryad sap whatever... Vigor = Heal Over Time ), so it's not really something new...

They are just a pain to collect. ( killing poor dryads in the King Forest, or from time to time looted from a chest [potions of Vigor] )
  

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Reply #6 - May 22nd, 2013 at 3:49am
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Kimberlite wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 11:46pm:
an invisibility fix

In case they actually fixed this it's gonna be a good update.
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Reply #7 - May 22nd, 2013 at 4:04am
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crunch wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 3:09am:
bladeforged just happened to be on preview on Lama at the same time as u18, but they are supposed to be included in the expansion.


Realms based iconics for the expansion.

I'm sure they'll push out Bladeforged as a pre-order bonus.
  
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Reply #8 - May 22nd, 2013 at 6:01am
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Glenalth wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 4:04am:
Realms based iconics for the expansion.

I'm sure they'll push out Bladeforged as a pre-order bonus.


These just mean better bank mules, far as I can tell so far.

I'm much more excited about the purported fixes to invis, and to wail/implosion targeting.

I'm interested to see what comes out in Wheloon but with the current quest team, I am not hopeful that it will be great.
  
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Reply #9 - May 22nd, 2013 at 7:02am
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Seeing as how the Bladeforged can only be first lifers (you cannot tr them and cannot tr into them), I came to the conclusion not long ago that they are simply a newbie trap.

I've been hearing rumors about a Shiradi proc nerf from 7% to 3%, but that's total hearsay and I'll believe it when I see it.

I thought I'd read Varg mentioning that they'd decide on the xp for the heroic level quests (lvl 16) as a final step.  Something like that.  I recall looking at the lammy feedback where people were attacking the horribad xp in them.

I am curious about this expansion.  After all the grief though caused by the things they failed to mention that came with the last one, I'd rather be shot than pre order it.  Especially when it will go on sale a month or two following actual release for 50% off.
  
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Reply #10 - May 22nd, 2013 at 7:16am
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Shiradi nerf would absolutely kill all caster builds, that would be the stupidest thing they could do right now considering how low build diversity is at the moment.
  
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Re: U18 tomorrow
Reply #11 - May 22nd, 2013 at 8:05am
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Which means you should assume it's a top priority.  But look on the bright side you get the cosmetic bib you have been asking for for 6 years.
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Re: U18 tomorrow
Reply #12 - May 22nd, 2013 at 8:08am
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AtomicMew wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:16am:
Shiradi nerf would absolutely kill all caster builds, that would be the stupidest thing they could do right now considering how low build diversity is at the moment. 


I agree.  Still heresay until I see it though...

It's going to happen though in whatever flavor.  The question really is when.  My thoughts have centered around when the enhancement pass goes live however.
  
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Re: U18 tomorrow
Reply #13 - May 22nd, 2013 at 8:11am
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Eladiun wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:05am:
you get the cosmetic bib you have been asking for for 6 years.


Does it come in IH Yellow?
  

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they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan.
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Re: U18 tomorrow
Reply #14 - May 22nd, 2013 at 8:42am
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Madcow430 wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:02am:
I've been hearing rumors about a Shiradi proc nerf from 7% to 3%, but that's total hearsay and I'll believe it when I see it.

I thought I'd read Varg mentioning that they'd decide on the xp for the heroic level quests (lvl 16) as a final step.  Something like that.  I recall looking at the lammy feedback where people were attacking the horribad xp in them.

I am curious about this expansion.  After all the grief though caused by the things they failed to mention that came with the last one, I'd rather be shot than pre order it.  Especially when it will go on sale a month or two following actual release for 50% off.


1) not heard and seen anything shiradi... now when Nerf cometh, they usually drop them on Live directly, and don't bother with testing in L-Space.

2) PurpleFooz ( or whatever PurpleThing ) mentioned it.
    He said that they would tweak the XPs, and that the XPs we saw were 'placeholder XPs'.
    He also hinted that it would just be a tweak, so don't expect much.
    The only Interest in these quests is that they give PDK Favor IIRC.

3) depends on the package around the pre-order... if there's a few otto boxes and/or several levelling gems people might buy it just for that.


  

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Reply #15 - May 22nd, 2013 at 8:57am
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Any word on EDA augments returning?
Couldn't find information about them anywhere.

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Alex DeLarge wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:57am:
Any word on EDA augments returning?
Couldn't find information about them anywhere.

I need mah DR breakers goddamnit!


Devil's/Demon's Ruin augments?

Those are gone, never to return. 
  
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Reply #17 - May 22nd, 2013 at 9:14am
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Flav wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:42am:
    The only Interest in these quests is that they give PDK Favor IIRC.


This is the real benefit to these quests.  The ability to not have to run all but two quests on EE and have all the eveningstar challenges 5 starred would be a welcome benefit.
  
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Reply #18 - May 22nd, 2013 at 9:21am
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any mention of whether it this update fixes viewing the argo favor?
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Reply #19 - May 22nd, 2013 at 9:49am
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The Voice of the Master augment is quite nice - if it wasn't for the complete lack of useful trinkets in the game anyway that is.
  
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painkiller wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 9:21am:
any mention of whether it this update fixes viewing the argo favor?

I apparently does.
  
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Reply #21 - May 22nd, 2013 at 10:28am
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Madcow430 wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:08am:
I agree.  Still heresay until I see it though...

It's going to happen though in whatever flavor.  The question really is when.  My thoughts have centered around when the enhancement pass goes live however.

Why does it need to happen?

I don't believe that shiradi is a better destiny than the other top destinies (fotw/LD).  Melee toons have significantly more DPS, can be self sufficient ala juggernaut and can pull out manyshot when needed.  I really think that shiradi is overrated it's just that it happens to be the only viable caster destiny atm.
  
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Reply #22 - May 22nd, 2013 at 11:01am
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Madcow430 wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 9:04am:
Devil's/Demon's Ruin augments?

Those are gone, never to return. 


Maybe that's (well deserved) negativity, but the devs did promise they'd make new versions eventually.
  
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Reply #23 - May 22nd, 2013 at 11:18am
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AtomicMew wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 10:28am:
Why does it need to happen?

I don't believe that shiradi is a better destiny than the other top destinies (fotw/LD).  Melee toons have significantly more DPS, can be self sufficient ala juggernaut and can pull out manyshot when needed.  I really think that shiradi is overrated it's just that it happens to be the only viable caster destiny atm. 


Again agreed.  Problem is though that anytime historically the torches and pitchforks come out in the forums the devs break out the nerf bats.  There were a lot of threads focused on Shiradi before the forum switch.  Many with astronomical exaggerations in them...
  
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Reply #24 - May 22nd, 2013 at 11:20am
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cdr wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 11:01am:
Maybe that's (well deserved) negativity, but the devs did promise they'd make new versions eventually.


Yeah, they did say that.  I wouldn't expect to see it anytime in the near future however.  I've only got one toon with an ESOS, and had a sad when the my last augment ran out. 
  
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