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FakeStrake Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama, Derailment and Duping! Posts: 1584 Location: Inferno side Joined: Jul 5^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #100 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 12:38am	Print Post
	Yobai, nice post


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Charon Ex Member	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #101 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 12:42am	Print Post
	Funniest part of the buy back? I warned them the week prior, knowing that the thread would get bumped back up when they fucked it up as usual.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #102 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 12:52am	Print Post
	Quote: 3) Logging into your character to manually delete stuff is very very very unprofessional, and people feel violated. The message that Turbines gives is: Hate, revenge, amateur. Logging on manually is amateur but hardly the worst thing Turbine's done... part of what I think is inducing rage is the random, inconsistent way it got done. Bored GMs were left to paw through what was likely hundreds of characters and thousands of bags, and some people ended up with their entire inventories cleared, while other people had nothing taken at all. The goal of punishment from Turbine's perspective should be to discourage future behavior and then integrate people smoothly back into the game. They failed on all counts.


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Feklar Korthos Resident Offline Not a hater, ... unless you're human. Posts: 85 Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2013	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #103 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 2:05am	Print Post
	None of that explains your whiny crybaby routines. You're butthurt because the weak consequences of your exploiting were made marginally tougher. Boo fucking Hoo. At the end of the day you'll just come back and exploit the next bug and the next, secure in the knowledge that you won't be permabanned. You'll hide your ill-gotten spoils better and keep on laughing at Turb and at the rest of us because we haven't sunk to your level. Or you'll quit and then forum lurk for the perverse pleasure of being negative shitheads. Don't want unfair punishments? Stop fucking cheating. Better yet stop playing and get your schoolkid attitudes the fuck out of our faces. You're surprised that Turbine fucked up? This is suddenly News? You're HAPPY they fucked up because it gives you an excuse to play the victim. If it wasn't so textbook, so transparent, and so pathetic, it'd be funny. Instead you just all end up looking like retards. Seriously, go shit in someone else's sandbox. If I ever caught my kids acting this way, they'd never see another video game or forum or the internet for the rest of their lives. Grow up.


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Quak Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 298 Joined: Sep 24^th, 2013	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #104 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 2:06am	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 8:04pm: Yeah, that's right. All our names here are serious statements about our belief systems and not at all just random nom de plumes. Cretin.

	http://youtu.be/rr1DSgjhRqE?t=1m23s
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Quak Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 298 Joined: Sep 24^th, 2013	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #105 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 2:13am	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 11:52pm: Once folks came off their two week ban, they easily got back all the crap Turbine tried to delete.� Turbine shat a collective 'whoopsie!' and locked down everyone for another two weeks while the dickmonkeys who work for them tried to figure out how to pull their heads out of each other's asses long enough to actually follow through on one thing without cocking it up. actually, thats not true. from what i've seen, all that got a less than 2 weeks suspension, were unbanned without rebanning them. yesterday, a couple of people (idk how many in total) got unbanned without being rebanned but all of them had their account more or less cleaned out. All that are still banned had their accounts untouched in the past 2 weeks. I think rest is the only poor soul that is rebanned but got his account logged in by a gm. those that got rebanned had a 2 weeks ban and not the chance to buy back anything, btw. also the people that got unbanned ytd couldnt buy anyhting back cuz it was taken out. and one of these guys that got unbanned earlier is still around even tho he had the chance to buy stuff back.
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	http://youtu.be/rr1DSgjhRqE?t=1m23s
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NaturalHazard VoD Slasher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1889 Joined: Jul 28^th, 2011	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #106 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 3:36am	Print Post
	Seriously do some people have no sense of whats appropriate and balanced? Some white knights going over the top, everyone who duped are scrum, can't ever be trusted, compared to the most vile criminals, murderers, rapists, child molesters. WTF!!!! they freaking insane, someone I would never trust, freaking pycho's its exploiting something in a game for fucks sake.


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Feklar Korthos Resident Offline Not a hater, ... unless you're human. Posts: 85 Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2013	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #107 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 3:48am	Print Post
	riiiiiigt... I say Crybaby, you hear Criminal. I say Negative Shithead, you hear Murderer. No wonder you've got that overdeveloped martyr complex going on over your ban. And yeah, it's a game. Having cheaters in it doesn't make it better. Go cheat at a Poker Table and see how funny they think it is.
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Charon Ex Member	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #108 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 3:49am	Print Post
	NaturalHazard wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 3:36am: Seriously do some people have no sense of whats appropriate and balanced? Some white knights going over the top, everyone who duped are scrum, can't ever be trusted, compared to the most vile criminals, murderers, rapists, child molesters. WTF!!!! they freaking insane, someone I would never trust, freaking pycho's its exploiting something in a game for fucks sake. Honest theory? Some of them may have autism/aspergers where to them rules are damn near sacred. It's the only thing that makes sense other than trolling.


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NaturalHazard VoD Slasher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1889 Joined: Jul 28^th, 2011	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #109 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 3:57am	Print Post
	Quote: Honest theory?� Some of them may have autism/aspergers where to them rules are damn near sacred.� It's the only thing that makes sense other than trolling. prob sadly true, also full of BS people like uska, those kinds of people give me the creeps, often the people who end up being exposed for the worst crimes often have that attitude, my shit don't stink, very harsh on anyone else that slips up, but they are nigh on perfect.


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Feklar Korthos Resident Offline Not a hater, ... unless you're human. Posts: 85 Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2013	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #110 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 4:50am	Print Post
	Hilarious. Just more deflection piled on top of the same ol' transference. How terribly unoriginal. Instead, how about just tell the truth: "Yes, I exploited. It was wrong. Sorry."


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Quak Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 298 Joined: Sep 24^th, 2013	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #111 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 6:40am	Print Post
	Did any1 else get their ban extended to the 11th of november (end of mabar) from perviously banned till the 7th of november only? by this i mean, banned prlly on the 10th of october, extended ban on the 24th of october till 7th of nov., yesterday night receiving another email of having the ban extended to the 11th of nov.
	« Last Edit: Oct 25^th, 2013 at 6:44am by Quak »
	http://youtu.be/rr1DSgjhRqE?t=1m23s
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SwashbucklerHater Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 337 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #112 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 7:14am	Print Post
	Maybe they realized that some of the exploiters are just waiting to get unbanned to get their +5 tomes on all toons. Or they just wanted to have bit harder punishment for the players who exploited. And about permabans... I think it's right not to hand out permabans for the first exploit someone used. Because if you host a game with a small player base you are better off trying to convince them to play legit. And I am very sure that the exploiters get a harder punishment next time they exploit and get caught. As far as I know most f2p games work with a 3 stage punishment befor you get your permaban, unless you really fucked up hard. So they usually start with some days-weeks for first incident, then several weeks-months for the second one and then a permaban for the third one. That's why I'd say I am fine with Turbines way of dealing with the exploiters this time.� Apart from the extended bans and buyback desaster. It's hard to catch every exploiter, if you are not using logs to see who did use the needed steps to exploit and only use some querries to check inventory amounts of specific items. Let's have a look at my account for example... I think I have more than 20 flawless dragonshards which are needed for feat exchange at level cap. This doesn't sound much if you TR regularly, but I haven't done that many TRs. I am gathering for the two accounts of rl friends also. On top I have several thousands of challenge mats, because I liked most of the challenges and was crafting many items there. I also used to get some xp when there was no lfm for my level range and I didn't feel like soloing a quest, but that was before they messed with the challenge xp. And I also used it to farm for epic tokens and saved them to be able to turn them in when needed. So yeah, you have to make sure you don't hit legit players who just stocked up on many items. So it's very likely that you don't hit players who only duped minor amounts of items because just by checking stock piles it's not possible to see who got them by playing and who get them by duping, unless you have some kind of mechanic where every single item has it's own ID and or timestamp. And some people also used some very good strategies to hide their duped items. But for me it seems they are doing much more harm to the exploiters than last time and that's good enough for me to think there is enough risk when using an exploit now.
	« Last Edit: Oct 25^th, 2013 at 7:18am by SwashbucklerHater »

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NaturalHazard VoD Slasher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1889 Joined: Jul 28^th, 2011	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #113 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 7:46am	Print Post
	Not excusing dupers at all, but why all the history of not doing anything and now suddenly taking action? Why letting it go live and not do anything when it was reported? Why leave it open for such a window when trying to come up with a fix? $ was coming in from shard sales, $ coming in from bags, they where thinking its great!! leave it open a lil longer then we can do our slap on the wrist routine. OH shit!!!! they can dupe tokens of the 12 to really really stock up on hearts of wood!!!! OH noes!!!! shit our new system that we want to implement wants to get rid of that!!!! If we dont move fast to get rid of all that stuff dupers will just load up on hearts and we will have less sales!!! ok now lets hit em with extreme !!!!!! I don't know im just a cynic I guess, now all you dupers are being compared to the scum of the earth, but I might be more willing to trust most of you than turbine, as my faith and trust with them is at an all time low after years and years of this crap.


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CanIHazYourStuff DQ Assaulter Offline Niiiiiiii! Posts: 484 Location: Evening... Star! XD Joined: Jul 26^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #114 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 7:49am	Print Post
	Feklar wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 2:05am: None of that explains your whiny crybaby routines. You're butthurt because the weak consequences of your exploiting were made marginally tougher. Boo fucking Hoo. At the end of the day you'll just come back and exploit the next bug and the next, secure in the knowledge that you won't be permabanned. You'll hide your ill-gotten spoils better and keep on laughing at Turb and at the rest of us because we haven't sunk to your level. Or you'll quit and then forum lurk for the perverse pleasure of being negative shitheads. Don't want unfair punishments? Stop fucking cheating. Better yet stop playing and get your schoolkid attitudes the fuck out of our faces. You're surprised that Turbine fucked up? This is suddenly News? You're HAPPY they fucked up because it gives you an excuse to play the victim. If it wasn't so textbook, so transparent, and so pathetic, it'd be funny. Instead you just all end up looking like retards. Seriously, go shit in someone else's sandbox. If I ever caught my kids acting this way, they'd never see another video game or forum or the internet for the rest of their lives. Grow up. Suck my mothafuckin' dick, paladin dickhead.

	Yarrrrrr!
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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #115 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 9:45am	Print Post
	Feklar wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 3:48am: riiiiiigt... I say Crybaby, you hear Criminal. I say Negative Shithead, you hear Murderer. No wonder you've got that overdeveloped martyr complex going on over your ban. And yeah, it's a game. Having cheaters in it doesn't make it better. Go cheat at a Poker Table and see how funny they think it is. Oh, I see what your beef is. Some dirty cheater had a higher kill count than you in a Waterworks run. It all makes sense now. DEATH TO EXPLOITERS!!!

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #116 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 9:56am	Print Post
	Feklar wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 4:50am: Hilarious. Just more deflection piled on top of the same ol' transference. How terribly unoriginal. Instead, how about just tell the truth: "Yes, I exploited. It was wrong. Sorry." No one gives a fuck. Its a game. no, Its not close to poker. Keep your shitty analogies that dont compare to your turb forums, TY. Oh. Also, cant believe they let you breed. Hope your kids run away and find happiness
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #117 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 10:18am	Print Post
	Feklar wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 2:05am: Or you'll quit and then forum lurk for the perverse pleasure of being negative shitheads. Don't want unfair punishments? Stop fucking cheating. Better yet stop playing and get your schoolkid attitudes the fuck out of our faces. Yeah dude, you're totally right!!!! Now that you put it that way, I can see the light. People like that Strakeln guy who don't play anymore should totally STFU and GTFO. He hasn't played in over TWO YEARS, and he's still hanging around the Vault, posting comments, slagging Turbine, and celebrating exploits. I should go too, and a bunch of others. Oh, wait. You're retarded. Here's a big fat "nope" for ya.

	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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Aberrant Korthos Resident Offline Play Dumb. Posts: 37 Location: Tennessee Joined: Oct 9^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #118 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 10:53am	Print Post
	Feklar wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 2:05am: None of that explains your whiny crybaby routines. You're butthurt because the weak consequences of your exploiting were made marginally tougher. Boo fucking Hoo. At the end of the day you'll just come back and exploit the next bug and the next, secure in the knowledge that you won't be permabanned. You'll hide your ill-gotten spoils better and keep on laughing at Turb and at the rest of us because we haven't sunk to your level. Or you'll quit and then forum lurk for the perverse pleasure of being negative shitheads. Don't want unfair punishments? Stop fucking cheating. Better yet stop playing and get your schoolkid attitudes the fuck out of our faces. You're surprised that Turbine fucked up? This is suddenly News? You're HAPPY they fucked up because it gives you an excuse to play the victim. If it wasn't so textbook, so transparent, and so pathetic, it'd be funny. Instead you just all end up looking like retards. Seriously, go shit in someone else's sandbox. If I ever caught my kids acting this way, they'd never see another video game or forum or the internet for the rest of their lives. Grow up. For some reason i want to start using the bolded text as an insult... YOU TURB!

	Khybered - May the ghostbane be with you.
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Aberrant Korthos Resident Offline Play Dumb. Posts: 37 Location: Tennessee Joined: Oct 9^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #119 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 11:00am	Print Post
	NaturalHazard wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 3:36am: Seriously do some people have no sense of whats appropriate and balanced? Some white knights going over the top, everyone who duped are scrum, can't ever be trusted, compared to the most vile criminals, murderers, rapists, child molesters. WTF!!!! they freaking insane, someone I would never trust, freaking pycho's its exploiting something in a game for fucks sake. Does Molesting halflings count as child molesting? If so... I think i'm guilty.

	Khybered - May the ghostbane be with you.
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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #120 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 11:39am	Print Post
	Feklar wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 2:05am: None of that explains your whiny crybaby routines. You're butthurt because the weak consequences of your exploiting were made marginally tougher. Boo fucking Hoo. At the end of the day you'll just come back and exploit the next bug and the next, secure in the knowledge that you won't be permabanned. You'll hide your ill-gotten spoils better and keep on laughing at Turb and at the rest of us because we haven't sunk to your level. Or you'll quit and then forum lurk for the perverse pleasure of being negative shitheads. Don't want unfair punishments? Stop fucking cheating. Better yet stop playing and get your schoolkid attitudes the fuck out of our faces. You're surprised that Turbine fucked up? This is suddenly News? You're HAPPY they fucked up because it gives you an excuse to play the victim. If it wasn't so textbook, so transparent, and so pathetic, it'd be funny. Instead you just all end up looking like retards. Seriously, go shit in someone else's sandbox. If I ever caught my kids acting this way, they'd never see another video game or forum or the internet for the rest of their lives. Grow up.


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Feklar Korthos Resident Offline Not a hater, ... unless you're human. Posts: 85 Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2013	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #121 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 11:45am	Print Post
	I am LOVING the way you guys, even those that are usually really good with the insults, even those that are usually pretty intelligent with the arguments, have NOTHING better to say than "Boo Hoo, You Retard". Shamed into complete brain-lock. Not a single well thought out argument against me. That's simply fucking awesome. Yeah, I think I'm done here. Once the Vault was a place to behold. Now it's just weak. When the best you can dish out is "Retard" "Kill Count" "Paladin".... ya-fucking-awn....
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Jelly_Muffin Stormreaver Piker Offline Just say fuckoff! Posts: 660 Location: Not in the cool kids club Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #122 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 11:57am	Print Post
	I'm sure such a stand up cunt such as yourself will be missed by these fine sirs ...... true story hamba bepa lo injan, fucko


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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #123 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 12:07pm	Print Post
	Feklar wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 11:45am: I am LOVING the way you guys, even those that are usually really good with the insults, even those that are usually pretty intelligent with the arguments, have NOTHING better to say than "Boo Hoo, You Retard". Shamed into complete brain-lock. Not a single well thought out argument against me. That's simply fucking awesome. Nobody has any interest in arguing against the absurd. Next time, you could always try to present a well-thought out argument instead of your recent drivel, and see if that would be more effective in soliciting a meaningful response. Suggesting on the Vault that an entire group of people disappear is ludicrous, especially when that group includes the owner of the site. For the past three years or more, the Vault has always had a large number of former players active on the site, people on vacation, etc. Feklar wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 11:45am: Yeah, I think I'm done here. Once the Vault was a place to behold. Now it's just weak. When the best you can dish out is "Retard" "Kill Count" "Paladin".... ya-fucking-awn.... Your post count of 80 and join date of January 2013 do not really put you in the best place to be discussing the quality of this place. It has always been shit, with a few hidden gems. Just like the rest of the internet.

	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Ban Extensions? Reply #124 - Oct 25^th, 2013 at 12:20pm	Print Post
	Feklar wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 11:45am: Yeah, I think I'm done here May I please have your stuff?

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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