Alex DeLarge wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 3:09pm:


What's an attachable throwing weapon?  Sorry I'm not at all familiar with throwing stuff, but I'm trying to make this build work now.

Rubbinns wrote on Aug 1^st, 2014 at 10:35am:


Can you elaborate on the extra cheese? I'm not super excited about orbs.  ideally I'd like a mainhand with damage procs and something else giving me stunning/seeking/healing amp whatever.

the orbs offer free red slot, and spell lore item. you dont lose anything by having it over just a single weapon and it still allows swf to perform. Main benefit is shield mastery line working with it.

Cabadath wrote on Aug 1^st, 2014 at 5:39pm:

you cant have another weapon in off hand it wont trigger your gswf icon. only orbs or runearms allowed.

Cabadath wrote on Aug 1^st, 2014 at 6:01pm:

Ruby on orb works. I cant test tempest core 2 properly. Lelo said it worked for his swf druid.

Munk are you sure? That was just two conflicting answers.

That bit about the ruby in the orb is amazing, i only have the first swf/twf feats and my ruby already procs like 4 times a fight.

What is the damage type for wolf form? Per earlier in the thread it said bludgeoning. When I pulled the combat log last night it said slashing. If I am using w/p ss's which one do I need to get a extended crit range of 17-20? Also, upon equiping a w/p ss my pet was then doing con damage ??? Has anyone tested this? Thanks to all who advise.

Munkenmo wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 10:25am:


Hi Munk,

What you described is the way it is intended to work.
I'm not certain it is indeed wai (much like the whole swf, twf shabang).

First of all you can see now that they fixed the weapon dice display on the extended inventory tab (finally a usefull fix) that your damage dice and crit range while equipping a weapon in wolf form will change the stats. I tested and saw that indeed bare handed my crit range (with imp crit bludgeon) was 17-20 in winter wolf and that my crit range changed to 18-20 while equipping a Rebellion (17 natural roll did not proc a threat).

I will need to test and see what happens when taking imp crit piercing and using Rebellion, if indeed it changes to 15-20.
If it does I will definitely ditch imp crit bludgeon in favor of imp crit piercing on my wolf twf+swf toon.

I've been slacking off playing lately but I'll post once I test the mentioned above.

always test for crit range on a dummy!! only way to be sure,  and I mean a wooden dummy.

Munkenmo wrote on Aug 12^th, 2014 at 6:37pm:


I stand corrected.
Did some more testing with rebellion without I. Crit piercing (with imp crit bludgeon) and indeed 17 DID proc a crit.

As a rule I don't trust the inventory tab since it's unreliable. I just made a mistake reading the combat log (must have seen a 17 roll not crit because it was the threat confirmation roll and I didn't pass the dummies fort).

Poor tempest, gotta be one of the most hosed trees in the game, probably gets sad-drunk with the mechanic tree on the weekends.

Is everything still working on Lammania?

Scruffy Murphy wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 5:50pm:

In wolf form, yes.

Scruffy Murphy wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 5:50pm:

I'd rather slot Battlerager's Harness and keep Complete TF weapon(Mortal Fear/Dragon Edge) main. It is 2% less DStrike, but Mortal Fear ;p

5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 25^th, 2014 at 11:50pm:

I have 0 faith in their ability+time to fix anything with Druids. If by some chance they ever do, it will not be retroactive and your build will keep Thrower glitch, SWF and TWF lines if you do NOT ever TR/ETR it.