arcane warrior worthwhile with the tree?  all the auras going off seems like a good idea for +20 meleepower

Changed the lvl 30 feat to shield deflection.

With a PDK shield, ,15% pdk, combined with shield deflection 40%elemental reduction, which combines with 30% block energy past life for 64% elemental resistance.

With 300 MRR against reflex reducing the remaining 36% damage to 9%, and a reflex save to lower that to 4.5%, and 2k hp, it will take roughly 45k damage worth of acid balls in one second to kill you.

With orcish boots, block energy twist, and fire shield scrolled, you should be able to further reduce that 4.5% to 1.10%, which would mean it would take 180k damage worth of fireballs to kill you.

5 Foot Step wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 7:01pm:


The wonderfull thing about tree/wolf builds is that when you are shapeshifted you can hold shift aka block and attack at same time.

I personally prefer monk/palie combo for trees.
But each to his own i guess, pointless to argue

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you only get 2 charges, and its the normal attack animation ie: slow as F.

might be worthwhile for the times when all your fast attacks are on timer.

think of it as a 6 second melee power action boost that stacks with everything


HOWEVER these charges come back pretty quick.  they get recharged in normal combat.

Want to mess with new kensei for a different take on tree builds.

If anyone has one capped can you pretty pls test a simple thing for me.
When you turn primal and use whirlwind, does one with blade count you as centerd and allow for 8 hits?
Aka, that you are capable of fully droping monk levels, but would still act as monk kinda.

That allows some really nice wiz/fighter/barb splits or fighter ranger warlock ones.
Fav would be fighter warlock palie tho because of palie bugs with tree

You need to transfer over monk kick animation.

It's not being centered. It's the base animation.

Lelouch wrote on May 24^th, 2016 at 8:48pm:


NOT WORKING.

Tested with bastard sword and all the required kensai bits.

even though I am "Centred" with my bastard sword, can gain KI in grandmaster, I still do NOT get over 4 hits on a whirlwind.

can get 4 with the doublestrike and offhand doublestrike.  but 4 is the max.

Even unarmed I can only get the 4. tops.

so monk is definitely needed to cash in on those extra WW hits.

Tested on a 8 figh 6 monk 6 warlock.
Survival is good /sitting at 200 prr,in tree  decent fort save, 33% dodge (always), shadow fade and aura ticks for 130 hp (shitty gear so i have only 65 con and im to lazy to farm everything).
Interesting enough you need flurry of blows and to be centerd with a weapon to get 8 hits ww which means that you need at least 1 monk level but no need to be stanced, now if this could be somewhat bypassed by swaping to gmaster of flower it would be great but didnt test if it coult stick to form if you were to swap fast at divine trainer / i remember there being many bugs back in the day when you could carry over some destiny stuff to your weapons or other dests but most were stealth fixed.
While the build looks ok on paper it suffers something that i predicted.

The issue i have with that specific warlock based tree is aura ticks are to damn slow, you need aura to tick at least 3 seconds to gain full benefit and to be in last form longer which has the best base dice.
You end up in last form for a short amount of time which makes even benefit of aw questionable.
So only option to make that somewhat endurable is a 12 warlock split which locks out all proper builds.

A somewhat good sustained tree build would be 12 warlock 5 fighter 3 barb but that costs hella lot feats and you still need to use 1 slow animation swing in rotation from time to time with the ww being the lame nonmonk based one. /you cant grab shield feats if you want precision in the kit but you can always abuse the respect thingy for the twist at least.
Thats prolly best spirit sustained warlock based tree abusing sup cleave as well.
After playing for months, almost a year as tree, trust me that spirit sustain is more important then simple classbruteforcing of benefits.
Anything that doesnt proc spirit every 3 sec makes tree form last extremely short which impacts your damage on the long run, having a good first strike while losing 10 seconds of possible last tier form and its better base is  not optimal imho.

Race should always be pdk for any kind of tree build, i tested this a while ago and the cleave arc range of pdk tree is bigger then that of human/helf counterparts, that should be kept in mind as it is still the case ingame. (simple test is just to put a bunch of tr dummies in ship but you can reproduce it in some quests as well and see what arc you get from what point of attacking spot)
No need to list feats n such, just grab t5 in kensei and all the relevant cleave feats etc

Personal opinion:

I prefer 3 wiz splits more, free spirit sustain with 0 ap spent in tree which opens other nice options.
For monk based tree, in case warlock split best option would be 12 lock 6 monk 2 palie, but that lacks in many aspects so il still stick with 12 monk 5 palie 3 wiz for optimal monk based tree for obvious reasons.

Will test a 12lock/5fight/3barb before deciding what split to settle on in hope they announce plans with wraps.

Also good split would be 12 fighter 5 wiz 3 barb /no aw tho but dire charge would be ok with that split

Sorry for long text, but i hope it helps aspiring tree players a bit, read purp part if you want to skip on specifics

12 lock ticks every 2.7 seconds on aura, which means spirit regen every 5.4 seconds due to 3 second cool down.

I dunno, I imagine pretty easily you never read the aura tooltip  which gives the aura activation cool down, or know how to use UMD to generate spirit if you want more, or know monk mechanics, or know how to not be an ass.