Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 Send TopicPrint
Normal Topic a history of turbine w/ photo's (Read 7210 times)
mystafyi
Abbot Raider
**
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 836
Joined: Nov 10th, 2010
a history of turbine w/ photo's
Jan 10th, 2015 at 11:31am
Print Post  
Interesting history of turbine.

http://johnny-monsarrat.com/index.html

  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Illetirated
Stormreaver Piker
*
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 568
Joined: Nov 19th, 2013
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #1 - Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:17pm
Print Post  


Grin
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
IMARANGER
Completionist (i.t.p.)
******
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 5034
Joined: Jan 17th, 2013
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #2 - Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:32pm
Print Post  
The design of that website provides the complete explanation for the state of DDO's code.
« Last Edit: Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:32pm by IMARANGER »  

OnePercenter wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 5:32pm:
I agree with 0bama...


OnePercenter wrote on Feb 9th, 2015 at 8:18am:
Not saying that others weren't better, just that quantity does not always indicate quality...  I mean, look at my post count...
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Sasha
Abbot Raider
**
Offline



Posts: 821
Joined: Apr 13th, 2014
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #3 - Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:33pm
Print Post  
I cried.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Barkabout
Shroud Slacker
***
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 1032
Joined: Aug 15th, 2013
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #4 - Jan 10th, 2015 at 4:24pm
Print Post  
tried to read it but after the third page -

  

Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
DropBear
Dropbear Awareness Society
*
Offline


Don't forget to look up....

Posts: 4380
Location: Landdownunder
Joined: Oct 11th, 2013
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2015 at 5:48pm
Print Post  
mystafyi wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 11:31am:
Interesting history of turbine.

http://johnny-monsarrat.com/index.html



Thanks Mystafi.
Yes, the website does evoke images of the 90's design style, ah nostalgia.   Grin
For those of us of the appropriate vintage  Wink, that story holds many parallels.
I recall one project I was involved in during the heady days of Total Annihlation, where we thought we could do it better than that successful franchise but with a medieval theme.  Think of a fusion between Warcraft and TA.

So many dreams... If nothing else, you have to credit JM with having the ability to survive and bring it to market.

I find the history interesting - looks like he checked out in 1996?
Big gap till AC was released in 1999.  That is 5 years of development, much of it unfunded!  Wow.
They didn't have much commercial success from 1999 till 2006 where DDO was released.  AC2 was developed, released and failed.  I guess that is where their energies were focussed.  DDO development would have started around 2004?

I think the DDO and LOTRO IP  is where they got their act together economically that took them into the big $'s.  I had not even heard of Turdbine or AC before DDO.

I wonder how JM looks back at Turdbine post 2010 after the WB takeover?

I do wonder if the culture and mgmt of today can be ascribed to those quaint beginnings?
« Last Edit: Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:24pm by DropBear »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Illetirated
Stormreaver Piker
*
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 568
Joined: Nov 19th, 2013
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2015 at 7:04pm
Print Post  
DropBear wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
I wonder how JM looks back at Turdbine post 2010 after the WB takeover?

I do wonder if the culture and mgmt of today can be acribed to those quaint beginnings?

I think the guy just enjoys his millions of dollars, who gives a fuck about a handful of gamers?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
omgspiderz
Waterworks Kobold
**
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 151
Joined: Oct 18th, 2014
Gender: Male
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #7 - Jan 10th, 2015 at 7:14pm
Print Post  
Illetirated wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 7:04pm:
I think the guy just enjoys his millions of dollars, who gives a fuck about a handful of gamers?


I know I wouldn't (give a fuck about a handful of gamers while counting all my Benjamins).
« Last Edit: Jan 10th, 2015 at 8:02pm by omgspiderz »  

(Party:): Your party member, Wickedpippi, has died.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
DropBear
Dropbear Awareness Society
*
Offline


Don't forget to look up....

Posts: 4380
Location: Landdownunder
Joined: Oct 11th, 2013
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2015 at 8:32pm
Print Post  
Illetirated wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 7:04pm:
I think the guy just enjoys his millions of dollars, who gives a fuck about a handful of gamers?


Capitalist bastard!!    Grin
But, you're right.   Wink
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
The Manager
Korthos Resident
*
Offline


I love tasty ass crakers!

Posts: 91
Location: Head Office
Joined: Nov 17th, 2013
Gender: Male
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #9 - Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:12am
Print Post  
Gonna report the illegal use of the 'Back to the Future' intellectual property to Universal Studios / Amblin Entertainment.

Cheesy
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Flav
Vault Frog
*
Offline


One Frog to Rule them
All!

Posts: 10013
Location: Land of the Frogs
Joined: Aug 29th, 2010
Gender: Male
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #10 - Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:39pm
Print Post  
So since DDO and LoTRO file format is the same as AC file format...

Turbine has been living on what was created by that bunch of geeks for all that time... That's 18ish years...  Shocked
  

Yes my avatar is an Hermine eating a Greenland Lemming for brunch.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
OldCoaly
Puppy Farmer
****
Offline


Why did you think this
time would be different?

Posts: 1564
Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD!
Joined: Jul 1st, 2011
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #11 - Jan 11th, 2015 at 8:05pm
Print Post  
Flav wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:39pm:
So since DDO and LoTRO file format is the same as AC file format...

Turbine has been living on what was created by that bunch of geeks for all that time... That's 18ish years...  Shocked


This should surprise exactly nobody.

Seriously.
  

Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 10:43pm:
they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan.
Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1st, 2014 at 1:11pm:
Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things.
eighnuss wrote on May 27th, 2014 at 12:52pm:
everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game
majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 12:12am:
I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy.
Skoodge wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 6:54am:
DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass.
GooFY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 5:36pm:
Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence.  
Meursault wrote on May 11th, 2015 at 8:10pm:
Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up.
Meursault wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 2:50pm:
Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close.
palmer01 wrote on Nov 20th, 2015 at 9:05am:
Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy.
PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4th, 2016 at 1:24am:
The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.

Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
CosmicCharlie
Shroud Slacker
***
Offline


How do you do?

Posts: 1155
Joined: Mar 3rd, 2012
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #12 - Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:24pm
Print Post  


Solo! Solo! Too Nakma Noya Solo!
« Last Edit: Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:26pm by CosmicCharlie »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
mystafyi
Abbot Raider
**
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 836
Joined: Nov 10th, 2010
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #13 - Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:37pm
Print Post  


I noticed she refrained from getting the big gulp there... Ah the 90's, a decade of restraint I tell ya what.  Roll Eyes
« Last Edit: Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:39pm by mystafyi »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
GermanicusMaximus
Dragon Raider
***
Offline


Thou shalt have no other
trolls before me.

Posts: 294
Joined: Feb 19th, 2013
Gender: Male
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #14 - Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:39pm
Print Post  
mystafyi wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 11:31am:
Interesting history of turbine.



Thanks for posting this. It is great stuff. It probably resonates with me because in 1993 I almost co-founded a gaming company.

I was working for my corporate employer, on a project I really didn't want to be on. (I got assigned to the project after completing my prior project. Normally, my employer let people interview for new projects until they found something they wanted. In this case, my new project was some exec's favorite toy and the project managers had free rein to Shanghai anyone they wanted, and my choice was to (a) do the project or (b) quit my job.)

A decade into my career, I had never had to work on something which I found boring, and I was quietly doing (a) while investigating (b).

One of my new co-workers invited me over to his house one night after we had worked together for awhile. I soon got to see his work exit plan. He had prototyped a graphical game on his PC. He had done everything (including the art work, which clearly was not his calling in life.) Aside from the art work, the game was rudimentary but not bad. (He had been so obsessed with the project that he completely trashed his marriage and got divorced soon after.)

His vision was to run the game over the internet (Mosaic, the first web browser, had just been released), and the project certainly was more interesting than my boring corporate project. Between the two of us, we came up with the names of 3 other people we knew (all from the same company as us) that could fill in the missing skill gaps. Soon, we were hijacking corporate conference rooms on Saturdays to craft our business/technical plans.

It was all going fairly well, until the fateful day when the rubber met the road and we had to talk about financing this start up. It soon became apparent that I was the only one who had any meaningful amount of money to fund the company. I calmly stated "If I am going to be the sole source of funding, then I am going to need a lot more than 20% ownership of the company."

That conversation was animated, to say the least. After several hours, we decided to adjourn until the following Saturday so we could more calmly consider what we wanted to do.

That meeting never happened, at least not with me in attendance. The middle of the next week, some other, more powerful corporate exec, wanted his toy project staffed, and I got a call from a friend of mine telling me he could get me on THAT project "if you think it sounds more interesting than what you are currently working on."

Sold, done deal. Life in corporate America.

Oh, and the game (and the start up company) never came to fruition.

DropBear wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
I wonder how JM looks back at Turdbine post 2010 after the WB takeover?

I do wonder if the culture and mgmt of today can be acribed to those quaint beginnings?


Well, I have to think that "JM" looks back on Turbine with some pretty fond memories. Not only did it make him rich, it also consumed quite a few years of his life. I think he likely gets nauseated by what WB has done to his creation.

On the flip side, I doubt that it comes as a complete surprise. Corporate America is notorious for overpaying for start ups. The people behind start ups live and breathe their companies. They understand them better than any group of corporate accountants ever could. When founders sell their companies, it is either because 1) the companies are under duress, or 2) the companies are at a peak and are primed to unload. $160 million. Ka-ching!

And yes, the current corporate culture at Turbine sounds like the same kind of laid back management approach that it always has had. That approach worked in the beginning because the employees were self motivated, driven individuals. It fails today because the employees are caricatures of corporate drones who only care about cashing their pay checks.
  

Family, Country, and the US stock market. Although, in a pinch, any convertible currency or liquid asset will do.

Yobai wrote on Jun 18th, 2014 at 6:15pm:
I would rather give Thrudh a rim job.


Bigjunk wrote on Nov 2nd, 2014 at 12:21pm:
That is some masterful trolling.


Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Sim-Sala-Bim
Completionist (i.t.p.)
******
Offline


Wha...?

Posts: 5356
Joined: Nov 2nd, 2013
Gender: Male
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #15 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:30am
Print Post  
mystafyi wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 11:31am:
Interesting history of turbine.

http://johnny-monsarrat.com/index.html



Thx for sharing.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
livefreeordie
Titan Demolisher
****
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 362
Joined: Nov 21st, 2011
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #16 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 1:29pm
Print Post  
Thats pretty cool. Googled a bit more about him and found this stuff

"Founder of $160 million company and Guinness World Record holder now building the world's largest calendar of festivals, concerts, and other events through a unique technology."

"Project Manager, Director of Strategic Alliances
Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science"
https://www.linkedin.com/in/monsarrat

"You may recall that a few weeks ago, we wrote about a spectacularly bogus lawsuit filed by Jonathan Monsarrat against a bunch of online commenters who had discussed Monsarrat's arrest a few years earlier, along with the beautifully epic response from lawyer Dan Booth of Booth Sweet LLC (also known for its Prenda fighting accomplishments). "

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130608/08444123372/jonathan-monsarrat-drops-...

"The artist behind the popular art installation, Wheel Questions, was arrested late last month for hosting a party at his Summer Street home where police reported they found underage drinking."

Well, I lived about 10 min from this epic house party, wish i was invited Smiley

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/somerville/2010/02/somerville_artist_arreste...

His current blog
http://bostoneventsinsider.com/
« Last Edit: Jan 12th, 2015 at 1:31pm by livefreeordie »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Yobai
Epic Poster
*****
Offline



Posts: 4126
Joined: Jul 26th, 2012
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #17 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 2:19pm
Print Post  
GermanicusMaximus wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:39pm:
Thanks for posting this. It is great stuff. It probably resonates with me because in 1993 I almost co-founded a gaming company.




odd, I wouldn't think the games you used to play with your Opa would have much appeal to those outside the ministerial orders of the RCC. 

maybe N.A.M.B.L.A.?  how many members you guys have these days?
  

Revaulting wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:16pm:
Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
IMARANGER
Completionist (i.t.p.)
******
Offline


I Love Drama!

Posts: 5034
Joined: Jan 17th, 2013
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #18 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:27pm
Print Post  
livefreeordie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 1:29pm:


That website is almost as hideous as the one in the OP's link.  We can't blame Johnny for DDO's shitty code since he obviously can't code anything much better than Myspace-level HTML.  I'm actually shocked that he hasn't made more use of <blink> tags.
« Last Edit: Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:29pm by IMARANGER »  

OnePercenter wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 5:32pm:
I agree with 0bama...


OnePercenter wrote on Feb 9th, 2015 at 8:18am:
Not saying that others weren't better, just that quantity does not always indicate quality...  I mean, look at my post count...
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
GermanicusMaximus
Dragon Raider
***
Offline


Thou shalt have no other
trolls before me.

Posts: 294
Joined: Feb 19th, 2013
Gender: Male
Re: a history of turbine w/ photo's
Reply #19 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 11:17pm
Print Post  
Yobai wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 2:19pm:
maybe N.A.M.B.L.A.?  how many members you guys have these days?


You are fooling no one Yobai.

The entire Vault knows that Thrudh met you at a NAMBLA social event. The story is that Thrudh asked everyone there what a rim job would cost, and you won, because it is damn difficult to get cheaper than "free".

The ensuing tale of your tongue's epic perversion is legendary. Even you brag of it on the Vault, in the quote in my signature. You may not remember, as you are obviously brain damaged. Fear not, Thrudh likely has a video collection detailing your exploits. Please, whatever you do, do NOT share it with the Vault.
  

Family, Country, and the US stock market. Although, in a pinch, any convertible currency or liquid asset will do.

Yobai wrote on Jun 18th, 2014 at 6:15pm:
I would rather give Thrudh a rim job.


Bigjunk wrote on Nov 2nd, 2014 at 12:21pm:
That is some masterful trolling.


Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send TopicPrint