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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #25 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 12:57am	Print Post
	Quote: The heavy repeater is a joke. Keen? on a lv28 item? I guess for the extra die step? but seriously why bother. the wraps though. is monklock a thing now?

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Ginger_Walri Titan Demolisher Offline Fire. Die In It. Posts: 325 Joined: Apr 11^th, 2014	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #26 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 12:59am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 12:48am: yep. i dont even wanna log on to lama at all My thoughts exactly.


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Notharharhar Ex Member	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #27 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 1:19am	Print Post
	It makes me embarrassed and happy at the same time.
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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #28 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 2:21am	Print Post
	FTL wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 4:59pm: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/438926-Lamannia-Release-Notes-%28Last-... LOL.


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #29 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 10:15am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 11:25pm: What the hell does that mean? Do they actually know what deprecate means? When they drop this shit in, why don't they explain it? Or is this part of their being mysterious.....� � Does this mean that all the Mabar ingredients will now be as useless as all the other ingredients, because they're making them redundant? I think they are trying to stop people from auctioning the old mabar ingredients at the prices the new ones command. There was some serious buthurt from people who thought they were buying stacks of current motes but got the old duped motes. And rightly so, that was a stupid and lazy move on Turdbin's part, exactly what we expect from the lazy and incompetent fools�

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Metal-Beast Abbot Raider Offline \m/ Posts: 767 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #30 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 1:20pm	Print Post
	True Story: I bought me one of the snazzier cosmetic outfits during the recent sale. I said to a Guildee: "I wonder when the new update is coming out?" He said: "As soon as you click 'Quick Buy'." Yup. On the bright side, this looks like an underwhelming pack (again, although I didn't loathe Archons as much as I thought I would) so I can wait to grind the TP for it. At least they finally added a bashing tower shield. I am pro-Sword and Board, even if it is Hella-Gimp.
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	I Got Nothin'.
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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #31 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 1:23pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 11:25pm: What the hell does that mean? Do they actually know what deprecate means? When they drop this shit in, why don't they explain it? Or is this part of their being mysterious.....� � Does this mean that all the Mabar ingredients will now be as useless as all the other ingredients, because they're making them redundant? I imagine either you won't be able to buy stuff when Mabar is back (whole new ingredient set) or you won't be able to buy new stuff they put in with old ingredients. More likely the former given the effort they put into most things these days.


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #32 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 8:03pm	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 1:23pm: when Mabar is back lol

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #33 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 1:07am	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 8:03pm: lol Don't laugh. Haven't they recycled every other obsolete discarded instance? Smuggler's Rest? Inspired Quarter? Chronoscope? They might not call it Mabar, but I bet it will come back.

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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #34 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 1:09am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 1:07am: Don't laugh. Haven't they recycled every other obsolete discarded instance? Smuggler's Rest? Inspired Quarter? Chronoscope? They might not call it Mabar, but I bet it will come back. Changing the description of Mabar ings. is them giving up. They couldn't fix Mabar, cuz Turbine.

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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #35 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 6:41am	Print Post
	FTL wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 4:59pm: Mirrors of Glamering should no longer be able to be used on any quest-specific items that are destroyed upon quest exit. YOU WILL NOT HAVE FUN OUTSIDE OF NARROW DEVELOPER PLANS. COMPLY.


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #36 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 8:28am	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 6:41am: YOU WILL NOT HAVE FUN OUTSIDE OF NARROW DEVELOPER PLANS. COMPLY. Seriously! Hop on The Dimwit Railroad, if you aren't doing exactly what we imagined, you're doing it wrong and we'll drag you back to our vision kicking and screaming.

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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pnellesen Titan Demolisher Offline We can't all just get along. Posts: 311 Joined: Dec 6^th, 2011	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #37 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 8:38am	Print Post
	I find it amusing that many people (some who should know better) really think they killed Mabar because of the lag.


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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1223 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #38 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 9:40am	Print Post
	pnellesen wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 8:38am: I find it amusing that many people (some who should know better) really think they killed Mabar because of the lag.� Okay, I'll bait since I don't know any better. Why did they really closed mabar?


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #39 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 10:19am	Print Post
	Artorias wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 9:40am: Okay, I'll bait since I don't know any better. Why did they really closed mabar? Because too many people had duped ingredients and keys and could bypass the grind the devs wanted us to endure. We weren't amusing enough for them.

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #40 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 10:25am	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 10:19am: Because too many people had duped ingredients and keys and could bypass the grind the devs wanted us to endure. We weren't amusing enough for them. Same for Cove. But still we have Cove?


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #41 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 11:20am	Print Post
	pnellesen wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 8:38am: I find it amusing that many people (some who should know better) really think they killed Mabar because of the lag.� I do believe Mabar was killed because of the crippling lag it sent through the entire server and the almost uncompletable spectral dragon. The rage was enormous at the time, and there was plenty of griefing too. Too hard to fix (like everything else), so they parked it. Duped mats wasn't it - other events with duped mats still happen - Cove, Coin turn-in etc. Changing the mats was because of duping.

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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #42 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 11:48am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 11:20am: Too hard to fix (like everything else), so they parked it. The Mabar lag is fixable. Backley (Orien's Item/R) sorted out the cause of the lag and had a well documented and easy to implement from the player's side procedure that completely mitigated it. I'm pretty sure Backley's solution was to stagger the startup of the different dragon instances. The root problem is that the solution was devised by the players, and since the players "just don't understand" the complexities of coding in the environment that is completely unique to Turbine, they won't implement it. At least not until they decide that it was their idea all along, like fixing the ToD set items to not decrement action boosts when they were removed/re-equipped, or adding pre-load functionality to the client, or the Abbot loot tables, or the many other things the players figured out because they love the game and want it to be successful.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #43 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 12:38pm	Print Post
	Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 10:25am: Same for Cove. But still we have Cove? Yes, I was trying to explain pnellson's statement, not necessarily claim it as a complete explanation. I'm not sure why mabar isn't coming back but cove is. My guess is that both lag and duping played a role, and perhaps the remembered shame of maban. Maybe Cove is more popular and less problematic than Mabar, and they can't replace both events, so they scrapped the weaker one? Personally, I'd rather they kept Cove than Mabar, so I'll play up the Mabar lag and downplay the Cove lag, it's not like I have to be impartial or anything�

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #44 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 4:24am	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 11:48am: The Mabar lag is fixable. Backley (Orien's Item/R) sorted out the cause of the lag and had a well documented and easy to implement from the player's side procedure that completely mitigated it. I'm pretty sure Backley's solution was to stagger the startup of the different dragon instances. Backley bit isn't enough to fix the lag... a Good part of the lag comes from the Instances and how the game work... sending 24� updates ( plus mob, dragon, pet, and more ) is an instance killer ( and if you add what Backley said, more or less everybody is doing the same thing at the same time : killing Dwagon, so it's 24� updates (plus al lthe rest ) by the number of active instances )... But well spaghetti code, Sloppy Work and Coding Monkeys... It's easier for the curent crop of devto scrap Maban and do Something Else ( by the way we still have no clue what that Something Else will be ) than to try to fix some old code... It's better on the resume ( created a new event > fixed a broken event ).

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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #45 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 7:16am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Sep 19^th, 2015 at 4:24am: Backley bit isn't enough to fix the lag... a Good part of the lag comes from the Instances and how the game work... sending 24� updates ( plus mob, dragon, pet, and more ) is an instance killer ( and if you add what Backley said, more or less everybody is doing the same thing at the same time : killing Dwagon, so it's 24� updates (plus al lthe rest ) by the number of active instances )... Backley's work around very reliably mitigated the lag. It "fixed" the lag well enough for >5 instances to repeatedly complete.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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pnellesen Titan Demolisher Offline We can't all just get along. Posts: 311 Joined: Dec 6^th, 2011	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #46 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 12:56pm	Print Post
	Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 10:25am: Same for Cove. But still we have Cove? Some Cove gear isn't too bad, but you can't get +5 tomes from the Cove...


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #47 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 8:20pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Sep 19^th, 2015 at 4:24am: ( by the way we still have no clue what that Something Else will be ) We already had it. The mimics.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #48 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 9:48pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Sep 19^th, 2015 at 8:20pm: We already had it. The mimics. No!!!! Let me rephrase that.... HELL NO!!!!!

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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1223 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: U28 Release Notes On Lamma Reply #49 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 11:09pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Sep 19^th, 2015 at 9:48pm: No!!!! Let me rephrase that.... HELL NO!!!!! Agreed Tomes and other powerful shinies coming from events should never be luck based. Other than the fact that the mimic event was stupid as fuck I couldn't get the tome despite hours of farming the bank quest while other people I knew barely "contributed" and got their tome right away. So Hell no
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