So I was reading the thread about a PnP group that was trying DDO for the first time.   All in all pretty "meh" stuff, nothing unexpected.

Of course FRAN!!!! is all over the place marching his army of exclamation marks everywhere and I get to the end of the thread and saw this post.

That end quote is awesome, both in a shot in Fran's face and the irony of saying "a wise man"... basically unloaded both barrels and there's not much Fran can do about it.  Just thought I would share because I know how beloved he is around here.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/468810-11-PnP-players-recruited-to-DDO...

Technomage wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:16pm:


Broke clock... etc...

Although to be honest I always thought of Fran as a old calendar.

The poster says the new players really liked crucible.  It was their favorite quest.

Fran then launches into a large post about how Crucible is a terrible quest.  Going feature by feature about how awful it is.  With Caps and ! marks aplenty. 

What a self absorbed twit.  He doesn't even realize that that kind of post is exactly why the new players said they didn't enjoy the forums or pugs or chat channels.  Because opinionated trolls will attack every opinion you express with excessive indignation. 

And Fran honestly wonders why he never found a home on Thelanis.   Because we aren't complete dickheads there. it's pretty simple.

That being said if you show yourself to be a complete fucktard expect to get smacked around a little.  I suspect that is what happened to Fran.

I can almost picture him doing a "you don't need toughness / con is a dump stat" type argument 8 years ago and suddenly wondering why people weren't receptive to him being in their group.  Unfortunately Fran simply cannot be taught.

Groo The Wanderer wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 11:42am:


No...He was right...It was me all along for continually running into Elitist Tools on Thelanis right from Lvl 1-18 but not on Sarlona, Khyber or Argo!

Of course it was me rather than the overabundance of Elitist Tools on Thelanis, Orien and G-Land that was the problem!

Yeah that so called "Friendly Drama Free Server G-Land is also on my bad Server for newbies list!

Now of course no Server is totally free of Elitist Tools but I actually have experience of all 8!


P.S. Ferd's OP was full of lies and attacks on Forumites - He got what he deserved in that thread.
I particularly like that none of his "friends" would join his Guild OR stay on Thelanis!

Ferd is a crazy person. Literally.

Years ago I used to get into internet fights with him on the forums, and someone who knew him sent me a PM about how he had some sort of mental issues or PTSD or something and he was off his meds and I shouldn't be so mean to him.

He went away for a while and when he came back he seemed less crazy. Maybe he was back on his meds.

FranOhmsford wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:28pm:


I'll probably dread asking this question when I see the answer but what classifies somebody as an elitist tool for you?

FranOhmsford wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:28pm:


Please kill yourself.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 11:46pm:


LOL.

FranOhmsford wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:28pm:

Kleptomaniacs are always sure somebody has been stealing from them.

FranOhmsford wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:28pm:


Ever stop to consider that this might be true?  Having played mostly on T-land for the last 8 years now I can honestly say that the number of elitist jerks I have run into is perhaps 20 and almost all of them were in the Starfleet or Legend guilds (both near dead if not dead now).  Really I didn't hit many at all, I ran into far more players who were incapable or unwilling to learn or who were just looking to pike than I have elitist jerks.

You might consider that you have well admitted that your skill level is middle of the road at best, and I would say that my observation of your knowledge level is higher than that but by no mean comprehensive.  Finally you have well established on the forums that you stick to and defend your opinions like a rabid pitbull on a baby rabbit.

So if you add it up you have

• Middling skill
• Incomplete knowledge
• Unwillingness to learn / change

This combination, on Thelanis, is not a good one.  People there are VERY knowledgeable and it's in many ways a collective knowledge because it's shared so freely.  Thus if you were to play there, in particular on elite runs, with marginal skills, incomplete knowledge and an unwillingness to learn from or at least acknowledge the validity of their observations you will most certainly have a bad day.

Don't get me wrong, you don't need FOM or some uber build to get accepted.  Hell I ran into a 2 Cleric, 2 Wizard, 2 Fighter once and asked him what was up with that (thinking maybe he found some good synergy I didn't know).;  Turned out he was a new player re-creating a PnP character he had.  I offered some advise about the lack of synergy of the classes and how he might find it quite difficult later in the game even tossed him a +2 Con tome for his next level (as he dumped con and it was only a 12) and wished him luck.  Still talk with him occasionally now and that toon is on it's 3rd life (he plays infrequently and levels slowly) but is enjoying it and we laugh at the choice of that first life but in the end he learned from the mistakes and actually made a decent 2/2/16 cleric/wizzy/ftr in the end that wasn't horribad.   Keep in mind this was either just before or after MOTU dropped and CON + Toughness were more or less required in every build to stay standing.

He got the occasional punt from raids but more often it was because they thought he was a healer but really scroll healed and that was it.  Pugs never did give him grief either.

rest wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:



Ferd's a pathetic liar.  it's even funnier to see wankers like HAL and squishywizz swallowing his tales of high fantasy hook, line, and two smoking barrels.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 11:46pm:


Great movie.