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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
Reply #25 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 10:16am
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Yobai wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:23pm:
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
Reply #26 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 10:37am
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[] wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 9:28am:
IKR?!  Anyone who thinks a pure Ranger gets improved evasion IS a tard; agreed!


Puerto Potty, learn to read. Rangers, Tempests specifically, can have Improved Evasion.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Tempest_enhancements

5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
Evasive Dance 3/3


Being literate is hard yo. Tard

yardarm_ wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 6:57am:
Also take out cocoon. Maximized cures are enough for heals.


Cocoon is in there as it's the cheapest form of self healing and much less expensive spell point wise compared to quickened cures. Keep in mind he is using KtA which also requires spell points. Rangers don't have that much spell points so sustaining a lot of costly cures during a long fight will leave you with less DPS and less healing very quickly.

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I agree with the quicken + empower heal comments. Get rid of quick draw and power critical. Use cleaves to cut the boost after cast delays. Personally, also not a fan of First Blood but I guess it works. Much prefer Elusive Target. I'm guessing the 2 * Weapon Focus is just to boost melee power. I've been experimenting with Feywild for a little while. If you can fit in a sonic item, the extra hamp and sonic damage is quite nice. Not sure if it compares as well to Arborea but it's a nice second.
  
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
Reply #27 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 10:45am
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Why do some idiots (guess most of them are socks of the same person) think that racial and warpriest boni are THAT good and a better investment than most other enhancement tree. The days that I had surplus action points on my builds I had to burn somewhere are gone.

I get the “gets added to base damage and therefore multiplied on crits and boosted by ranged/melee power” part but is there something hidden? Do they more than the description says that would justify that obsession? I know, bad advice isn’t uncommon on this board too but this one is kind of persistent.
  
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Reply #28 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 10:45am
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They get evasive dance...which is not improved evasion.  Reading is hard, huh?
  
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
Reply #29 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 10:47am
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Taking the cleaves on a Dance of Death build is a bad idea.

You'll do far more damage with the hide to Sneak attack feat than aborea.

Precision is much better than power attack in the upper levels.  Eveything has fortification and ACs so high I'm still seeing grazes at +120 to-hit.

Your HP will be lite, defenses meh, saves LOLz.

It'll do 2-3% more damage over  a better-built tempest but if the Max-DPS title is that important more power to you.
  
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Reply #30 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 11:11am
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viadrouw wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 10:45am:
Why do some idiots (guess most of them are socks of the same person) think that racial and warpriest boni are THAT good and a better investment than most other enhancement tree. The days that I had surplus action points on my builds I had to burn somewhere are gone.

I get the “gets added to base damage and therefore multiplied on crits and boosted by ranged/melee power” part but is there something hidden? Do they more than the description says that would justify that obsession? I know, bad advice isn’t uncommon on this board too but this one is kind of persistent.


If I'm understanding this correctly, Racial meaning Damage Boost and Hamp? More hamp is always good. Boost stacks with every other boost and it only costs 1 AP.

I'm guessing War Priest is referring to Harper? On that you have to ask others as I don't fancy it myself as well but if you can fit it in, it is nice to have. Not something that will make or break a build however as the enhancements have the core must haves in Tempest and DWS. The rest is pretty much fluff.

[] wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 10:45am:
They get evasive dance...which is not improved evasion.  Reading is hard, huh?


Right... I forgot you don't know how game mechanics work. Silly me. Don't let Grand, or anybody that knows how Evasive Dance and Improved Evasion work, see your comment. Too bad you can't change it now.

PS: Did you figure out Manyshot yet?
  
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
Reply #31 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 11:28am
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No, he gave up to try and quitted the game lol.
  

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Reply #32 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 11:40am
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[] wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 9:55am:
What's your stance on improved evasion in this build?


Strength/Khopesh build = yes take Evasive Dance
Dex/Scim/Rapier build = no, not necessary

As an aside, some people take at least 3 levels Fighter or Paladin and get Heavy Armor.  I don't find this necessary even in LE. (Not bad, just not necessary)
  
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Reply #33 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 11:41am
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P.S.  Galadriel and Bigjunk's responses on this page (page 2) are pretty much spot on.
  
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
Reply #34 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 12:14pm
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Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 4:45am:
The point distribution in Tempest does not seem to add up for the points spent requirements for tiers 4 and 5.


Edited, thanks for the audit.

SayWhatAgain wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 5:00am:
I'd swap
Cleave, Great Cleave, Quick Draw
For
Quicken, Empower Heal, Maximise

DoD is enough to rely on for AoE.
Cleaves do not improve single target damage while TWF anyway.


yardarm_ wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 6:57am:
Where the fuck is precision ? Also first blood   ?

This is what you should do, feat wise...

Great cleave ---> quicken.
Quick draw (Use cleave) ---> maximize.
Power crit ---> precision.
Harbringer ---> dire charge.
First blood ---> elusive target or epic tactics +2.

Also take out cocoon. Maximized cures are enough for heals.


Regarding cleaves, they are there to interrupt cooldowns and reset Momentum Swing between fights.

Quickdraw is important to maintain 100% boost uptime for Combat Brute without long pauses.

Precision deactivates some LD abilities and new endgame does not have many fortified enemies.

Dire charge is only good for making enemies helpless, but I have Balanced Attacks for that. Also, the build already has a ton of active attacks and Harbinger adds a shitload of damage after MP scaling.

First Blood isn't very exciting, but it's the only DPS option.

[] wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 8:35am:
Incorrect: scimi outperforms khop when you factor in the elven racial bonuses.  Also, it's easier to get a ridiculously high DEX score than STR.  Elf scimi baby; lern 2 DDO.


This guy thinks wasting 17 AP on +4 base damage is better than 2 entire extra multiples of damage plus racial damage boost. Lol.

[] wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 8:54am:
improved evasion


Let me guess, you meant to do that?

Bigjunk wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 10:47am:
Your HP will be lite, defenses meh, saves LOLz.


This build is intended for a well-geared tripletionist. I think the defenses will be fine. If not, I'd rather build for max damage and walk it back to increase defense if necessary than the other way around.
  

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Reply #35 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 12:50pm
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[] wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 8:35am:
Incorrect: scimi outperforms khop when you factor in the elven racial bonuses.  Also, it's easier to get a ridiculously high DEX score than STR.  Elf scimi baby; lern 2 DDO.



No. wrong again. Wait, wait don't tell me that stupid ass statement was a troll yeah, sure it was...
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Reply #36 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 1:13pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 12:14pm:
Also, the build already has a ton of active attacks and Harbinger adds a shitload of damage after MP scaling.



How much damage?
  
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Reply #37 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 2:16pm
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You might consider getting your secoundary boost aka damage boost from ld.

It is way better than mp boost, imo. At least twice as better, as far as i have seen.
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Reply #38 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 2:53pm
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GrizzlyBear wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 1:13pm:
How much damage?


A shitload. I have a lot of Shrouds to run.

yardarm_ wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 2:16pm:
You might consider getting your secoundary boost aka damage boost from ld.

It is way better than mp boost, imo. At least twice as better, as far as i have seen.


Hmm. Probably worth it. Would trade 1 str and 2 seeker for an extra point in thrill of the hunt and 2 in favored hunter.
  

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Reply #39 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 5:01pm
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[] wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 10:45am:
They get evasive dance...which is not improved evasion.  Reading is hard, huh?

actually is imp evasion. functionally the exact same and doesnt stack.

improved evasion.
  

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Reply #40 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 5:31pm
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Galadriel wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 11:11am:
If I'm understanding this correctly, Racial meaning Damage Boost and Hamp? More hamp is always good. Boost stacks with every other boost and it only costs 1 AP.

Nope, I totally know how what I get for a few AP in the human tree.

[] wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 8:35am:
Incorrect: scimi outperforms khop when you factor in the elven racial bonuses. 


The only reasons this makes any sence would be a) It does more than in the description or b) There is a way to spend more than 80 AP.
  
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Reply #41 - Jan 19th, 2016 at 6:25pm
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Why you guys waste time trying to teach Puerto Potty?

She's retarded and can't learn shit.
  

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Reply #42 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 12:17am
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ILoveExploits wrote on Jan 19th, 2016 at 6:25pm:
Why you guys waste time trying to teach Puerto Potty?

She's retarded and can't learn shit.


We already determined he is the vault punching bag so why not use him for his intended purpose. Also it's just so fun to shove the metaphorical boot so far up his behind that he starts choking on it.
  
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Reply #43 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:19am
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Reply #44 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 2:20am
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what bigjunk said

if you plan on doing LE shroud make sure your hitpoints are over 1400 if you plan on tanking a boss in pt 2
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Reply #45 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:03am
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Just a quick question, but does someone know which one of these is better dps wise ?

Seal of house avithoul (10% procc rate) or Strange tidings (5% + better sneack dmg) ?



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Reply #46 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:19am
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yardarm_ wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:03am:
Just a quick question, but does someone know which one of these is better dps wise ?

Seal of house avithoul (10% procc rate) or Strange tidings (5% + better sneack dmg) ?




Saw someone claiming Tidings is better dps... but it deception is broken  Sad
  
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Reply #47 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:33am
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GrizzlyBear wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:19am:
but it deception is fixed


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Reply #48 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:53am
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GrizzlyBear wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:19am:
Saw someone claiming Tidings is better dps... but it deception is fixed now.


I guess it doesn't even matter when twf, whether be it 5 or 10 %.
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Reply #49 - Jan 20th, 2016 at 9:27am
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Technically speaking, there is a huge difference between that 5% and 10% but Exposing Strike/Sniper Shot... Smiley
  
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