Ghostly + Blurry + 27 Dodge and you cut through EH like butter.

EE in fucking Grim and Berret and you get rekt by black Abishai.

Are Displacement clickies really required?

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go find some speed runs that dont use it.

Displacement is your friend.

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Seconded. Learn2Play

The developers have designed the game with two levels of difficulty.   

There are actually two types of players.   Those who actually have a thorough understanding of not only how the game works, but how the developers have designed things behind the scenes.

The 2nd type of player is usually a completionist who knows almost nothing, but worse than that, sadly thinks he understands the game based off of what he has gleaned from copying other players builds.

In order to keep making money, the developers allow players like the OP to get through EH content with their shoddy ridiculous belief that they know what they are doing... (you can easily recognize these fucktards because they say such stupid shit as "AC doesn't matter.. you need PRR.. I have 200 AC... it don't matter)

Let me enlighten all of you.   First of all try to wrap your skull around the idea that you know absolutely nothing.   What you think you know.. your wrong about.    

Keeping an AC "in range" of what you should have for an AC character basically counts as approximately 50% of whether you get hit or not.   if your a fucktard who wraps his lips around the the dumbass beliefe that "AC doesn't matter" and completely abandon it, you are going to get ripped a new asshole on EE. 

To put it bluntly, again you know nohting.  The entire game is built around taking what is possible for your character to have and generating a % which is then put against the difficulty you are trying to do.   

Since most of you are fucktards who blindlyl accept and cockswallow shit like "Tukaw's build"  (some nigger had the nerve to ask me if my build was a "tuckaw" build the other day)
You end up having next to almost no idea whatosever as to what is going on behind the scenes.

Fucktard Awaken: You can't 'abandon AC" becuase your fag guild leader told you it was useless, stack "27 dodge" and ghostly, and blur, attempt to get through EE content, and then come here and shoot a shit stream of ignorance all over the forum saying how the game is dumb.

Again the game has nothing to do with numbers.  The monsters arent' rolling dice against your AC, and then rolling another for a dodge miss chance, a concealment miss chance, and an incorporeal mischance.   It is a composite of all that information.   The game basically looks at whether you actually know what your doing or whether you swallowed a fag load of 'tukaw' build or whatever the homoqueers are saying these days (i.e. Ac doesnt matter y ou need PRR etc).

They *allow* you to go through  your homoqueer routines and get through EH with that shit because they want your money.   If you try to pull that shit in EE they rip you a new ass hole.

Just because your a complete dumb fuck who knows nothing about the game (the tukaw load you swallowed from your guild leader doesnt count) doesnt give you the right to come here and say the game is "dumb".


Fuck you and good night.

I play a 20 ranger tempest. I 2 manned LE TS last night, meleeing all the mobs. 105 DC dire charge and 95 DC stunning blow help, along with everything else, but Dispel doesnt believe in CC... Had no issues. Dispel needs to L2P and stop copying my builds, but sucking at them. I went ranger and 24h later hes sending me tells that hes going Ranger also, same as when I went warlock instakill. dickrider?

Daggertooth wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 9:04am:


Agree with your comment on AC.  AC is still a valuable component.  People want to say AC is pointless if you can't get to 95% like in the old days when it was d20 based.  But even if it is only causing misses 35-40% of the time on a light armor build, it is adding value.  And you can stack that with Dodge, Blur, Ghostly.  It all adds up.  Then you need PRR and solid HP for the times you do get hit (because you will get hit sooner or later).  Crowd control helps with that too.  You have options for CC, even on a dex tempest ranger.  You ignore any of it and your build suffers in EE/LE content.

OldCoaly wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 9:58am:


didn't get trolled, but thx. trying to push the troll thread along more, actually. baiting dispel/yall to see if i can stir the pot any.

Zergod told me to post a thread complaining about 20 ranger sucking! HE TROLLED ME!

He also went STR build which totally means he gave up on AC... heh what a fag having no AC anymore because he wanted to get levers in TS.

post your build dispel. uwotm8

Asheras wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 10:03am:


About 6 years ago I got into a huge fight with people about Rage.   Sadly what people didn't understand then, and what people still don't understand, is that the game has never used a D20 system.   What it does is computes a viable AC range based on the level and difficulty and then breaks it down into what I believe was (and possibly still is) something to the effect of a 25%/50%/75%/100% system.    This was a while back when good AC's were like 80-100.  So for back then, say you were in Amrath Elite.. the range is always an 8 point system... so in any given dungeon.. for example say Amrath Elite.. the range is 94-102.     Anything below 94 you are always going to get hit, 95-96 you will get hit 75% of the time, 97-98, 50% of the time, and so on.  If you had back then a 102 or over AC it probably capped at like getting hit 25% of the time.

Today, with possible AC around double what it was I am guessing it has been expanded to probably a 16 point system.  But this is why I always tried to explain to people how Rage was a bad thing because if your AC was within range, it lowered you an entire tier (i.e. getting hit 50% to 75%).
Gullible as people are they of course think that monsters are actually rolling dice for every swing adding a  bonus and measuring that against a character's AC.

Willing to bet dollars to donuts that they have probably taken that system (most likely on a 16 point range now) and then composited it with blur /ghostly, dodge etc.   So as you say, ditching AC or even simply being far enough "out of range" for whatever it should be for that difficulty, most likely tanks  your chance to defend.

Daggertooth wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 11:03am:


I don't think you understand how the game worked then. You could get to 5% hit chance, as it was a d20 system. It was not a 12 point range... I played an AC tank for a long time, along with pumping AC on my DPS characters. You could get to 5%...

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It's a long story; you should just kill yourself.