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Swash Ass Pastlife
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5FS's Swash Ass Pastlife (v3.0)
Race: Drow
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 9 X/7 Bard/4 Rogue
(RB BR BB RB BR BX XX XX XX XX)
Stats:
..........(36 pt build)
Strength............8
Dexterity...........12 (+1 tome or better required)
Constitution.......12
Intelligence........17
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............20 (+ level ups)
Feat Progression:
Level 1 : Single Weapon Fighting
Level 3 : Precision
Level 6 : Maximize Spell (Sub in Empower Healing if you plan to use Cocoon in epics.)
Level 9 : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
Level 12 : Improved Critical-Piercing
Level 15 : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Open
Enhancements:
Swashbuckler:
35 AP
Core 3/6
On Your Toes 3/3
Tavern Shanties 1/3
En Pointe 3/3
Double Strike AB 3/3 (6 pts)
Resonant Arms 3/3 (6 pts)
Dashing Scoundrel
Smooth Flourishes (2 pts)
Slap in the Face
+1 Cha
+1 Cha
Coup De Grace
Exploit Weaknesses (2 pts)
Thread the Needle (2 pts)
Assassin:
25 AP
Core 1/6
Sneak Attack Training 4/4 (8 pts)
Shiv 2/3
Venomed Blades 3/3
Damage AB 3/3
Critical Mastery 3/3
+1 Int
Killer 3/3
Warchanter:
13 AP
Core 2/6
Enchant Weapon (2 pts)
Rough & Ready 2/3
Iced Edges 3/3
Sprint AB 1/3
Frozen Fury 3/3
Harper:
7 AP
Core 1/6
Strategic Combat (2 pts)
Harper Enchantment (2 pts)
Know the Angles (2/3)
Gear:
Standard TR melee twinkage
Cannith Air Rapier preferred.
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Re: Swash Ass Pastlife
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Many Tks for repost.
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Re: Swash Ass Pastlife
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Given that most people are doing ITR's these days vs. the traditional TR from 1 with a standard class, PL builds that use two classes are relatively limited value. You can get 15 PL's from ITR. Enough for a Completionist. Even then, a lot of people find the 15-30 grind easier than the 1-20.
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Asheras wrote
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Given that most people are doing ITR's these days vs. the traditional TR from 1 with a standard class, PL builds that use two classes are relatively limited value. You can get 15 PL's from ITR. Enough for a Completionist. Even then, a lot of people find the 15-30 grind easier than the 1-20.
I do love the double dip. It's not like I expect anyone to grind out every past life on this, just the distasteful ones. Still it's should be easy enough to extrapolate gnome/sun elf/PDK for wiz/cleric/fighter lives. Shadar Kai can be use to get any past life if you prefer iconic to heroic. For me, doing the low level stuff again is a breath of fresh air after trying to grind out as many ERs and IRs as possible before the level cap increase to 30 hit.
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Re: Swash Ass Pastlife
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Is this still a viable build? Looking to TR to a bard after this Cleric life is over...
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Dohhv wrote
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Is this still a viable build? Looking to TR to a bard after this Cleric life is over...
Not really. I mean this build was obviously made to take advantage of Swashbuckler as a TR train tool back when Swash was the strongest enhancement tree for melee. That is no longer the case. It is specifically designed to get you past life's other than Bard.
That being said it is not horrible if you want to do a melee bard. You don't need all 4 rogue levels as you can (and should) use Vistani as your secondary dmg tree instead of Assassin.
I too am doing a bard life next (last life needed for completionist) but I plan to take the easy route and go Scoundrel and Inquisitive. Ain't no reason to do anything else as Inquisitive is just so strong right now. Add the bard buffs for free and you'll be decent right out of the box.
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Re: Swash Ass Pastlife
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It'll get the job done. But there are other options now.
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5 Foot Step wrote
on Jul 24
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, 2019 at 12:28pm:
It'll get the job done. But there are other options now.
Ulysses wrote
on Jul 24
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, 2019 at 11:47am:
Not really. I mean this build was obviously made to take advantage of Swashbuckler as a TR train tool back when Swash was the strongest enhancement tree for melee. That is no longer the case. It is specifically designed to get you past life's other than Bard.
That being said it is not horrible if you want to do a melee bard. You don't need all 4 rogue levels as you can (and should) use Vistani as your secondary dmg tree instead of Assassin.
I too am doing a bard life next (last life needed for completionist) but I plan to take the easy route and go Scoundrel and Inquisitive. Ain't no reason to do anything else as Inquisitive is just so strong right now. Add the bard buffs for free and you'll be decent right out of the box.
Thanks for the heads up, guys.
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Re: Swash Ass Pastlife
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People like to dunk on swash because it is outshined at cap.
It actually still has a lot to offer for heroics though. Your crit profile comes online at level 3. You get haste and displacement for free. Built-in heals. Etc.
I'd take a swash over a tempest for heroics anyday. I'd build it a bit differently now though.
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5 Foot Step wrote
on Jul 24
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People like to dunk on swash because it is outshined at cap.
It actually still has a lot to offer for heroics though. Your crit profile comes online at level 3. You get haste and displacement for free. Built-in heals. Etc.
I'd take a swash over a tempest for heroics anyday. I'd build it a bit differently now though.
I just play the game to have fun. Sure, I enjoy Reaper - but I only ever really run 1 skull. Furthermore, I'm just trying to get 'Completionist' - So I only really go as far as 20...
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5FS's Swash Ass Pastlife (v4.0)
Race: Any
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 10 X/8 Bard/2 Rogue
(RB BB BB RB BB BX XX XX XX XX)
Stats:
..........(36 pt build)
Strength.............8
Dexterity...........16
Constitution.......16
Intelligence.........8
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............18 (+ level ups)
Feat Progression:
Level 1 : Single Weapon Fighting
Level 3 : Shield Mastery
Level 6 : Precision
Level 9 : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
Level 12 : Improved Critical-Piercing
Level 15 : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Improved Shield Mastery
Enhancements:
Swashbuckler:
35 AP
Core 3/6
On Your Toes 3/3
Tavern Shanties 1/3
En Pointe 3/3
Double Strike AB 3/3 (6 pts)
Resonant Arms 3/3 (6 pts)
Skimisher
Smooth Flourishes (2 pts)
Low Blow
+1 Cha
+1 Cha
Coup De Grace
Exploit Weaknesses (2 pts)
Thread the Needle (2 pts)
Assassin:
1 AP
Core 1/6
Warchanter:
13 AP
Core 2/6
Enchant Weapon (2 pts)
Rough & Ready 2/3
Iced Edges 3/3
Sprint AB 1/3
Frozen Fury 3/3
Harper:
8 AP
Core 1/6
Harper Enchantment (2 pts)
Awareness 2/3
Know the Angles (3/3)
Vistani:
23 AP
Cores 3/6
Mist Stalker 3/5 (6 pts)
Rapid Slash (2 pts)
Knife Training 1/5 (2 pts)
Haste Boost 3/3
Deadly Blades (2 pts)
CHA +1
Single Dagger (2 pts)
Celerity
Racial:
racial AP in racial
Gear:
Level 5:
Chrono Helm
Necklace of Contemplation
Stalwart Trinket
Chrono Cloak
Sapphire Studded Buckles
CC Ring 1
Chrono Gloves
Chrono Boots
CC Ring 2
Chrono Bracers
Frozen Tunic
Swashbuckler
Sky Pirate Dagger
Level 10:
Symphonic Lenses
Executioner's Helm
Ward-Inscribed Pendant
Symbol of the Slave Lords
Shadowhail Cloak
Braided Cutcord
Ring of Nightfall (Swap Keylock Ring for traps)
Crumbling Gloves
Flightfoot Greaves
Slaver Ring
Lore-Fueled Packbanner
Mist Laden Vestment
Assassin's Kiss
Van Richten's Cane
Level 15:
Symphonic Lenses
Executioner's Helm
Family Recruit Sigil
Symbol of the Slave Lords
Mantle of Fury
Braided Cutcord
Ring of Nightfall (Swap Keylock Ring for traps)
Hamfisted Gloves
Flightfoot Greaves
Slaver Ring
Bracers of the Fallen Hero
Wildcard
Assassin's Kiss
Moonguard
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Re: Swash Ass Pastlife
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5 Foot Step wrote
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5FS's Swash Ass Pastlife (v4.0)
Race: Any
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 10 X/8 Bard/2 Rogue
(RB BB BB RB BB BX XX XX XX XX)
Stats:
..........(36 pt build)
Strength.............8
Dexterity...........16
Constitution.......16
Intelligence.........8
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............18 (+ level ups)
Feat Progression:
Level 1 : Single Weapon Fighting
Level 3 : Shield Mastery
Level 6 : Precision
Level 9 : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
Level 12 : Improved Critical-Piercing
Level 15 : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Improved Shield Mastery
Enhancements:
Swashbuckler:
35 AP
Core 3/6
On Your Toes 3/3
Tavern Shanties 1/3
En Pointe 3/3
Double Strike AB 3/3 (6 pts)
Resonant Arms 3/3 (6 pts)
Skimisher
Smooth Flourishes (2 pts)
Low Blow
+1 Cha
+1 Cha
Coup De Grace
Exploit Weaknesses (2 pts)
Thread the Needle (2 pts)
Assassin:
1 AP
Core 1/6
Warchanter:
13 AP
Core 2/6
Enchant Weapon (2 pts)
Rough & Ready 2/3
Iced Edges 3/3
Sprint AB 1/3
Frozen Fury 3/3
Harper:
8 AP
Core 1/6
Harper Enchantment (2 pts)
Awareness 2/3
Know the Angles (3/3)
Vistani:
23 AP
Cores 3/6
Mist Stalker 3/5 (6 pts)
Rapid Slash (2 pts)
Knife Training 1/5 (2 pts)
Haste Boost 3/3
Deadly Blades (2 pts)
CHA +1
Single Dagger (2 pts)
Celerity
Racial:
racial AP in racial
Gear:
Level 5:
Chrono Helm
Necklace of Contemplation
Stalwart Trinket
Chrono Cloak
Sapphire Studded Buckles
CC Ring 1
Chrono Gloves
Chrono Boots
CC Ring 2
Chrono Bracers
Frozen Tunic
Swashbuckler
Sky Pirate Dagger
Level 10:
Symphonic Lenses
Executioner's Helm
Ward-Inscribed Pendant
Symbol of the Slave Lords
Shadowhail Cloak
Braided Cutcord
Ring of Nightfall (Swap Keylock Ring for traps)
Crumbling Gloves
Flightfoot Greaves
Slaver Ring
Lore-Fueled Packbanner
Mist Laden Vestment
Assassin's Kiss
Van Richten's Cane
Level 15:
Symphonic Lenses
Executioner's Helm
Family Recruit Sigil
Symbol of the Slave Lords
Mantle of Fury
Braided Cutcord
Ring of Nightfall (Swap Keylock Ring for traps)
Hamfisted Gloves
Flightfoot Greaves
Slaver Ring
Bracers of the Fallen Hero
Wildcard
Assassin's Kiss
Moonguard
Looks good! So long as that counts as my Bard life, I'm game.
Thanks a ton, bud.
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Re: Swash Ass Pastlife
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Well, if you're going for a bard life rather than using bard to get a different life, you might want to look at more bard levels:
(I haven't updated these recently)
Scourge 10 bard/9 ranger/1 FvS
http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1511906231/0#0
This build doesn't really make sense unless you go Scourge.
PDK 12 bard/6 fighter/2 rogue
http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1456432769/44#44
This one should be adaptable to most races...including Tiefling if you were looking to go iconic.
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5 Foot Step wrote
on Jul 25
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, 2019 at 12:07pm:
Well, if you're going for a bard life rather than using bard to get a different life, you might want to look at more bard levels:
(I haven't updated these recently)
Scourge 10 bard/9 ranger/1 FvS
http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1511906231/0#0
This build doesn't really make sense unless you go Scourge.
PDK 12 bard/6 fighter/2 rogue
http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1456432769/44#44
This one should be adaptable to most races...including Tiefling if you were looking to go iconic.
I'm just looking to knock Bard off of the Completionist list, really. I'd rather not go Iconic right yet.
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5 Foot Step wrote
on Jul 24
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, 2019 at 3:14pm:
5FS's Swash Ass Pastlife (v4.0)
Race: Any
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 10 X/8 Bard/2 Rogue
(RB BB BB RB BB BX XX XX XX XX)
Stats:
..........(36 pt build)
Strength.............8
Dexterity...........16
Constitution.......16
Intelligence.........8
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............18 (+ level ups)
Feat Progression:
Level 1 : Single Weapon Fighting
Level 3 : Shield Mastery
Level 6 : Precision
Level 9 : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
Level 12 : Improved Critical-Piercing
Level 15 : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Improved Shield Mastery
Enhancements:
Swashbuckler:
35 AP
Core 3/6
On Your Toes 3/3
Tavern Shanties 1/3
En Pointe 3/3
Double Strike AB 3/3 (6 pts)
Resonant Arms 3/3 (6 pts)
Skimisher
Smooth Flourishes (2 pts)
Low Blow
+1 Cha
+1 Cha
Coup De Grace
Exploit Weaknesses (2 pts)
Thread the Needle (2 pts)
Assassin:
1 AP
Core 1/6
Warchanter:
13 AP
Core 2/6
Enchant Weapon (2 pts)
Rough & Ready 2/3
Iced Edges 3/3
Sprint AB 1/3
Frozen Fury 3/3
Harper:
8 AP
Core 1/6
Harper Enchantment (2 pts)
Awareness 2/3
Know the Angles (3/3)
Vistani:
23 AP
Cores 3/6
Mist Stalker 3/5 (6 pts)
Rapid Slash (2 pts)
Knife Training 1/5 (2 pts)
Haste Boost 3/3
Deadly Blades (2 pts)
CHA +1
Single Dagger (2 pts)
Celerity
Racial:
racial AP in racial
Gear:
Level 5:
Chrono Helm
Necklace of Contemplation
Stalwart Trinket
Chrono Cloak
Sapphire Studded Buckles
CC Ring 1
Chrono Gloves
Chrono Boots
CC Ring 2
Chrono Bracers
Frozen Tunic
Swashbuckler
Sky Pirate Dagger
Level 10:
Symphonic Lenses
Executioner's Helm
Ward-Inscribed Pendant
Symbol of the Slave Lords
Shadowhail Cloak
Braided Cutcord
Ring of Nightfall (Swap Keylock Ring for traps)
Crumbling Gloves
Flightfoot Greaves
Slaver Ring
Lore-Fueled Packbanner
Mist Laden Vestment
Assassin's Kiss
Van Richten's Cane
Level 15:
Symphonic Lenses
Executioner's Helm
Family Recruit Sigil
Symbol of the Slave Lords
Mantle of Fury
Braided Cutcord
Ring of Nightfall (Swap Keylock Ring for traps)
Hamfisted Gloves
Flightfoot Greaves
Slaver Ring
Bracers of the Fallen Hero
Wildcard
Assassin's Kiss
Moonguard
I'm also shocked that UB hasn't added his two cents worth...
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Dohhv wrote
on Jul 25
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, 2019 at 1:18pm:
I'm just looking to knock Bard off of the Completionist list, really. I'd rather not go Iconic right yet.
It's much more efficient to stack Heroic class life completions with Iconic reincarnations. The journey from 15 to 30 is faster than going from 1 to 20 and you get TWO past lives out of the way.
Don't dismiss the opportunity to get PDK and Bard done in less time than Bard alone.
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they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan.
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I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy.
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DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass.
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Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence.
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OldCoaly wrote
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It's much more efficient to stack Heroic class life completions with Iconic reincarnations. The journey from 15 to 30 is faster than going from 1 to 20 and you get TWO past lives out of the way.
Don't dismiss the opportunity to get PDK and Bard done in less time than Bard alone.
I had no clue, thanks!!
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Just wanted to drop in and say I'm running a pure bard/scoundrel right now with Tier 5 Warchanter. Only level 16 but it is much stronger than I thought it would be. Those Warchanter buffs really add up.
I'm going single wpn/shield mastery as above and the dps is nice but the freezing stuns Warchanter give me are hitting almost all the time.
Temporary hp I give the party is a pretty big deal too since it refreshes every 10 seconds or so.
Anyway quick note i expected to hate this bard life but that is not the case in the least.
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Ulysses wrote
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Just wanted to drop in and say I'm running a pure bard/scoundrel right now with Tier 5 Warchanter. Only level 16 but it is much stronger than I thought it would be. Those Warchanter buffs really add up.
I'm going single wpn/shield mastery as above and the dps is nice but the freezing stuns Warchanter give me are hitting almost all the time.
Temporary hp I give the party is a pretty big deal too since it refreshes every 10 seconds or so.
Anyway quick note i expected to hate this bard life but that is not the case in the least.
I'm currently running an Axe and Board PDK Swashy. It sure gets the job done for the most part. I deal pretty decent damage and crit like a madman.
I came, I saw, I abruptly left.
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Yeah it looked OK the other night Dohhv.
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Shinyshoes wrote
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Yeah it looked OK the other night Dohhv.
I take it I ran with you? Yeah, I still need better gear for sure, but, it does the job for the most part.
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